Yeah, I get where you are coming from. But you're still making the same mistake imo.
It's not about the purpose of awakening. It's about what awakening actually does or rather what happens if your fruit awakens and how it functions.
And the way things are, awakening unlocks a new ability. Is that ability still linked to the df's basic abilities in essence, in the sense of having the same "theme", like strings production or mochi production or remaining a rubber related body altering ability? Yes, of course. This still does not change the fact that it's a new ability/skill whatever you wanna call it.
The "how" makes the difference.
You make it sound like the fact that they suddenly become able to transform the environment into their substances is the natural progression of their base abilities, as the logical consequence of awakening="increase", bluntly said. Like it's a linear progression. Good->better, less->more.
W/o prior knowledge about their actual awakening and your way of thinking tho, you'd have to assume that they become able to produce larger quanities (which they do canonly), but that they would do so, the same way they did it when their fruits were still non awakened, simply by casting it out from their bodies, just "better" or rather in more greater quantities.
Where does that "transform and manipulate their environment" ability fits into this? The "how". Which is again, a totally new ability on it's own.
It doesn't. And that's where your approach imo fails.
Is it good enough to predict things like Tesoro's awakening or the awakening of let's say the Mera Mera no mi? Yep, probably. And it's prolly more reasonable than some" blue flames up to plasma" thing for example. But those are "relatively easier" to predict anyway.
It imo reaches its limit tho when it's about much more difficult calls.
It's not enough to say that Luffy will be able to do x and y, when he awakens. It's also about predicting the mechanism with which he will be able to do so. You've got to explain how he's able to do those things you think he will be able to do, if you are proposing a theory.
And at best it has to be visualizable, aswell as the trigger that finally leads to his awakening, has to be visualizable. It's a manga, a visual medium with pictures, afterall. We as the readers have to known what's going on. Like I said before, this aspect often gets completely ignored.
Awakening seems to be an ability concept which can be recognized as such when it's used, most likely also for Zoans aswell (Zoan spoiler tag). Similiar to how Doffy's "...-white" attacks can be idenfitied as awakening attacks and therefore can be differentiated from his otherwise "base ability"-moveset.
So in Luffy's case, something like an awakened super far reaching arm stretch is no solid concept tbh. Same for those potentially bigger G3 moves. G3 sizes already differ a lot in the manga. Everything would have to be communicated via prefixes, which would be the only reliable way to signalize, when an attack of higher magnitude is used. Which is imo again also not really the best concept for a visual medium.
In Luffy's case it will obviously be linked to his rubber ability in essence and it will remain a body altering ability. I btw never said he would become a producer type, in the sense that he casts rubber from out his body or that he starts to transform the environment into rubber. It would change his whole fighting style and doesn't make one bit of sense for me aswell.
And for that talk about your credibility. Thing is, I'm also very rarely wrong with my thoughts and I'm in general pretty good at analysing things. So this doesn't impress me much, absolutely no offense meant, mate. I respect you as a good poster nonetheless.
It's not about the purpose of awakening. It's about what awakening actually does or rather what happens if your fruit awakens and how it functions.
And the way things are, awakening unlocks a new ability. Is that ability still linked to the df's basic abilities in essence, in the sense of having the same "theme", like strings production or mochi production or remaining a rubber related body altering ability? Yes, of course. This still does not change the fact that it's a new ability/skill whatever you wanna call it.
The "how" makes the difference.
You make it sound like the fact that they suddenly become able to transform the environment into their substances is the natural progression of their base abilities, as the logical consequence of awakening="increase", bluntly said. Like it's a linear progression. Good->better, less->more.
W/o prior knowledge about their actual awakening and your way of thinking tho, you'd have to assume that they become able to produce larger quanities (which they do canonly), but that they would do so, the same way they did it when their fruits were still non awakened, simply by casting it out from their bodies, just "better" or rather in more greater quantities.
Where does that "transform and manipulate their environment" ability fits into this? The "how". Which is again, a totally new ability on it's own.
It doesn't. And that's where your approach imo fails.
Is it good enough to predict things like Tesoro's awakening or the awakening of let's say the Mera Mera no mi? Yep, probably. And it's prolly more reasonable than some" blue flames up to plasma" thing for example. But those are "relatively easier" to predict anyway.
It imo reaches its limit tho when it's about much more difficult calls.
It's not enough to say that Luffy will be able to do x and y, when he awakens. It's also about predicting the mechanism with which he will be able to do so. You've got to explain how he's able to do those things you think he will be able to do, if you are proposing a theory.
And at best it has to be visualizable, aswell as the trigger that finally leads to his awakening, has to be visualizable. It's a manga, a visual medium with pictures, afterall. We as the readers have to known what's going on. Like I said before, this aspect often gets completely ignored.
Awakening seems to be an ability concept which can be recognized as such when it's used, most likely also for Zoans aswell (Zoan spoiler tag). Similiar to how Doffy's "...-white" attacks can be idenfitied as awakening attacks and therefore can be differentiated from his otherwise "base ability"-moveset.
So in Luffy's case, something like an awakened super far reaching arm stretch is no solid concept tbh. Same for those potentially bigger G3 moves. G3 sizes already differ a lot in the manga. Everything would have to be communicated via prefixes, which would be the only reliable way to signalize, when an attack of higher magnitude is used. Which is imo again also not really the best concept for a visual medium.
In Luffy's case it will obviously be linked to his rubber ability in essence and it will remain a body altering ability. I btw never said he would become a producer type, in the sense that he casts rubber from out his body or that he starts to transform the environment into rubber. It would change his whole fighting style and doesn't make one bit of sense for me aswell.
And for that talk about your credibility. Thing is, I'm also very rarely wrong with my thoughts and I'm in general pretty good at analysing things. So this doesn't impress me much, absolutely no offense meant, mate. I respect you as a good poster nonetheless.
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