Character Discussion Name one stat where Kaidou is average, because as far as I know, he's 100% in EVERYTHING.
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Consistency is very important that tend to be omitted a lot (mostly for agenda purpose)
If you take feats in isolation Katakuri goes from slower or equivalent to base Luffy
to faster than Snakeman
But if you look at his fight against Luffy as whole, Katakuri combat speed was portrayed to be overall much faster than base/boundman Luffy and ~ to Snakeman (as Katakuri got hit cleanly by Snakeman Luffy as much as he was hitting him back).
The reason why Kizaru is considered to be much faster than Snakeman is not only because of the blitzing orbital kick, it's also because prior to that while Oda drew Kizaru scratchless and casual as if it was just another job for him, Luffy was roughed up, tired and dead serious.
Katakuri and Kaido all needed to adapt to Snakeman at first, for Kizaru it looked like he never had any issue with it. His base reaction are enough to deal with it without having to to put any particular effort.
If you take feats in isolation Katakuri goes from slower or equivalent to base Luffy
to faster than Snakeman
But if you look at his fight against Luffy as whole, Katakuri combat speed was portrayed to be overall much faster than base/boundman Luffy and ~ to Snakeman (as Katakuri got hit cleanly by Snakeman Luffy as much as he was hitting him back).
The reason why Kizaru is considered to be much faster than Snakeman is not only because of the blitzing orbital kick, it's also because prior to that while Oda drew Kizaru scratchless and casual as if it was just another job for him, Luffy was roughed up, tired and dead serious.
Katakuri and Kaido all needed to adapt to Snakeman at first, for Kizaru it looked like he never had any issue with it. His base reaction are enough to deal with it without having to to put any particular effort.
There is no debate in this just agenda nonsense.
Kizaru left and island and was miles away before Luffy even noticed , he then speed blitz him with accerelation is power. Their movement speed is tiers apart.
For reflexes Kaido got tagged by Snakeman plenty times ( not to mention other foddes tagging him) , Kizaru not even once showing way superior reflexes. Using FS is not reflexes speed feat.
Kizaru has superior speed and reflexes than Crydo.
Kizaru left and island and was miles away before Luffy even noticed , he then speed blitz him with accerelation is power. Their movement speed is tiers apart.
For reflexes Kaido got tagged by Snakeman plenty times ( not to mention other foddes tagging him) , Kizaru not even once showing way superior reflexes. Using FS is not reflexes speed feat.
Kizaru has superior speed and reflexes than Crydo.
Even as a Luffy fan and admiral slanderer, I don’t see how one can dispute this anymore. Kizaru doesn’t even need FS but the SBS confirming Luffy was being fed alone puts Luffy below him. Now I do think G5 alone without time limit vs Kizaru is a different debate in which personally I’d favour G5 due to him actually proving the form and having better feats (won’t be surprised if an all out bloodlusted Kizaru is stronger though). But Egghead Luffy has a time limit and with that restriction there’s no conceivable way to put Egghead Luffy above Kizaru anymore
