General & Others Naruto equivalent of OP fanbases:
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I really hope no one in this thread is actually denying whether he's a swordsman. That's a manga fact. What people do say is the fact that Shanks has an inherently different fighting style to Mihawk which relies on orthodox swordsmanship aka cutting potency. And the fact Shanks may have other stuff putting him over Mihawk or atleast on par with him... which is heavily hinted and all but confirmed by Oda. Mihawk has top 1 swordsmanship aka cutting potency. Whether it's over haki shockwaves (unorthodox swordsmanship)... well that we don't know. The portrayal and feat gaps speak for themselves though
Kamusari doing zero cutting type damage was the final confirmation for me. It's too crude to be like Mihawk's slash, but still just as powerful. It was like Kidd got hit by a truck rather than cleaved across his chest.
Shanks is an elite swordsman who overwhelms with haki/CoC. Mihawk is an elite haki user, who overwhelms with his swordsmanship.
Zoro was cutting trains clean in half before he even had haki. Zoro now uses haki to amplify those kinds of attacks, and will keep improving this type of attack. He will never have attacks like Kamusari under his belt, and I bet he never learns internal penetration either. This won't make him inferior to Roger or Shanks as a swordsman.
Shanks is an elite swordsman who overwhelms with haki/CoC. Mihawk is an elite haki user, who overwhelms with his swordsmanship.
Zoro was cutting trains clean in half before he even had haki. Zoro now uses haki to amplify those kinds of attacks, and will keep improving this type of attack. He will never have attacks like Kamusari under his belt, and I bet he never learns internal penetration either. This won't make him inferior to Roger or Shanks as a swordsman.
Oh yeah that'll show me, I'm gonna be so shocked when Shanks drops his pants and shoots Haki ropes at Mihawk 
@GalaxyLevelShanks making a thread twerking for Mihawk when he hasn´t done anything recently was shameless behavior ngl. Idk whoever runs the Shanks agenda, but they gotta get you disappeared
Yeah, Oda is too ambitious when comparing Shanks to Mihawk. It would be easy for him to just say Mihawk is stronger, but he refuses to, calling Mihawk's "swordskill" superior.
We also have other cases with ambiguous titles, like Whitebeard being called "strongest man in the world", yet constantly being called Roger's equal, with Roger being the benchmark Whitebeard compares to.
Overall, Oda also just portrays Shanks with way more aura. Whenever Shanks is shown or even mentioned, it comes with excellent feats. Clashing with Whitebeard on meds, said to have stopped Kaido in his tracks, stopping Akainu and commanding the end of the war, stunning an admiral with his wifi Haki from miles away, squashing Kid and Killer with one blow, said to have stopped Loki while no one else could, bringing him back to Wano like a toddler.
Oda didn't make Shanks look bad even once. Mihawk on the other hand? Hides behind Buggy's shadow as per Oda's words in the SBS and feels distress as Buggy wants to go for the One Piece. Had his slash stopped by Jozu, later stalled by a Vista that couldn't stop laughing.
Why is Oda clowning Mihawk so much.
We also have other cases with ambiguous titles, like Whitebeard being called "strongest man in the world", yet constantly being called Roger's equal, with Roger being the benchmark Whitebeard compares to.
Overall, Oda also just portrays Shanks with way more aura. Whenever Shanks is shown or even mentioned, it comes with excellent feats. Clashing with Whitebeard on meds, said to have stopped Kaido in his tracks, stopping Akainu and commanding the end of the war, stunning an admiral with his wifi Haki from miles away, squashing Kid and Killer with one blow, said to have stopped Loki while no one else could, bringing him back to Wano like a toddler.
Oda didn't make Shanks look bad even once. Mihawk on the other hand? Hides behind Buggy's shadow as per Oda's words in the SBS and feels distress as Buggy wants to go for the One Piece. Had his slash stopped by Jozu, later stalled by a Vista that couldn't stop laughing.
Why is Oda clowning Mihawk so much.
Let´s be real though. Shanks agenda is what Minato fans wished their agenda was.
Shanks got his placement with the legends, his Haki compared to Soyboy even,got his skysplit with Rogers rival
Madara ended the war without even knowing who Minato was. Dude was never even in the conversation with Hashirama
There's no dude in the OP verse ever, who can shrug off Shanks Haki. It just doesn't exist
Shanks got his placement with the legends, his Haki compared to Soyboy even,got his skysplit with Rogers rival
Madara ended the war without even knowing who Minato was. Dude was never even in the conversation with Hashirama
There's no dude in the OP verse ever, who can shrug off Shanks Haki. It just doesn't exist
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Tbh while I think characters like Roger Shanks Rayleigh etc can fight outside of using their swords cutting is 100% a big factor of swordsmanship. All 3 having advantage armaments meaning cutting isn’t their main priority even when using their blades
It makes sense that oden was the only one capable of cutting Kaido with him being the main one focused in actually cutting. What he lacked in advanced internal armament or the quake fruit he made up for with overflowing haki with enma
On top of that even after his years traveling with Whitebeard and Roger he still proclaimed that he had the greatest swordsmanship
If you believe cutting is the most important aspect when it comes to being wss what’s your opinion on using other blades weapons?
Like if someone where to strictly use and master a cured supreme grade axe and make it black would they just be the strongest blades man or compete with the strongest swordsman title
It makes sense that oden was the only one capable of cutting Kaido with him being the main one focused in actually cutting. What he lacked in advanced internal armament or the quake fruit he made up for with overflowing haki with enma
On top of that even after his years traveling with Whitebeard and Roger he still proclaimed that he had the greatest swordsmanship
If you believe cutting is the most important aspect when it comes to being wss what’s your opinion on using other blades weapons?
Like if someone where to strictly use and master a cured supreme grade axe and make it black would they just be the strongest blades man or compete with the strongest swordsman title
I agree with what you've said regarding the lanes Mihawk and Shanks are in, but I just don't think it makes any difference here whatsoever in terms of Mihawk's title.
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. He was stated to have more sword skills than Shanks, which is what you're saying, but he was also reiterated as the strongest swordsman straight-up. No matter which lane Shanks is in, it can't be denied that he is a swordsman, placing him below Mihawk.
Occam's razor; It's really that simple. From a shounen perspective, Zoro will become WSS at least amongst mortals once he surpasses Mihawk (i.e., excluding CDs). There's not gonna be any "oh Zoro's WSS but he might still be weaker than Shanks" etc... Zoro doesn't give af about sword skill, he wants to be the strongest swordsman period and that's who Mihawk is.
From a narrative perspective, it's like Oda knew about this whole swordsman Mihawk vs hakiman Shanks debate so the man straight-up included Shanks in Mihawk's bounty hype segment, which is as close to a statement of one top-tier > another as you'll ever get in this manga. "This man is the world's strongest swordsman with even greater sword skills than this other swordsman" — there is simply no plausible way Shanks isn't included in Mihawk's official title (i.e., not a rumour like Kaido's). At absolute worst, Mihawk = Shanks so surpassing Mihawk means surpassing Shanks anyways, but more than likely, Mihawk is stronger.
Mihawk is the strongest swordsman. He was stated to have more sword skills than Shanks, which is what you're saying, but he was also reiterated as the strongest swordsman straight-up. No matter which lane Shanks is in, it can't be denied that he is a swordsman, placing him below Mihawk.
Occam's razor; It's really that simple. From a shounen perspective, Zoro will become WSS at least amongst mortals once he surpasses Mihawk (i.e., excluding CDs). There's not gonna be any "oh Zoro's WSS but he might still be weaker than Shanks" etc... Zoro doesn't give af about sword skill, he wants to be the strongest swordsman period and that's who Mihawk is.
From a narrative perspective, it's like Oda knew about this whole swordsman Mihawk vs hakiman Shanks debate so the man straight-up included Shanks in Mihawk's bounty hype segment, which is as close to a statement of one top-tier > another as you'll ever get in this manga. "This man is the world's strongest swordsman with even greater sword skills than this other swordsman" — there is simply no plausible way Shanks isn't included in Mihawk's official title (i.e., not a rumour like Kaido's). At absolute worst, Mihawk = Shanks so surpassing Mihawk means surpassing Shanks anyways, but more than likely, Mihawk is stronger.
