Future Events Nerona Imu or BlackBeard D. Teach for the FV?
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And what happened Luffy challenged ''world'' and won in Enies Lobby. Its metaphorical that they say its world, if you can't separate metaphor and reality you have bad reading comprehension.
So called ''World'' doesn't have the ''men power'' to attack Wano and someone else at the same time.
So called ''World'' can't beat Kaido:
So called ''World'' can't handle 2 Legends at the same time,
Shiki says so called ''World'' is Garbage, and can't capture Roger:
Sengoku says WB can destroy the ''world'' (don't worry, its just a metaphor, he can't literally destroy the entire world)
See there are other scans as well.
What makes you think Luffy can beat Imu and Government, but Teach can't, when we know Imu cuts not only Luffy's poster also cuts Teach's poster, when we know Xebec gathered the strongest pirate crew, not Roger, and Teach will surpass Xebec.
So called ''World'' doesn't have the ''men power'' to attack Wano and someone else at the same time.
So called ''World'' can't beat Kaido:
So called ''World'' can't handle 2 Legends at the same time,
Shiki says so called ''World'' is Garbage, and can't capture Roger:
Sengoku says WB can destroy the ''world'' (don't worry, its just a metaphor, he can't literally destroy the entire world)
See there are other scans as well.
What makes you think Luffy can beat Imu and Government, but Teach can't, when we know Imu cuts not only Luffy's poster also cuts Teach's poster, when we know Xebec gathered the strongest pirate crew, not Roger, and Teach will surpass Xebec.
2-You ignore that the WG NEVER dedicated its full might against 1 specific target, since they need to watch over the whole world and some forces are kept close at hand like CP0 and the God knights. The closest thing we got was Marineford and even then it was just the Marines and a couple of Pacifistas, with the Shichibukai mainly just fucking around.
3-You're forgetting that now the Marines are stronger and that the SSG reached a point to where the Shichibukai arent needed, meaning 2 of the original 3 great powers are directly under the control of the WG
4-This
Teach is the final villain Luffy will face at the end of the story.
Imu, and the WG as a whole, are reactionaries. They won over 800 years ago, and they're fine with things being in a status quo. Blackbeard is a proactionary. He and Luffy have repeatedly shaken the status quo. Imu cut up both of their bounty posters, because both are a threat to their reign.
In the end, the reign of the Celestial Dragon's hold over the world will fall....but there can be only one to lead the New Era. Only one Pirate King. Only one inheritor of the will of the Ancient Kingdom.
Imu, and the WG as a whole, are reactionaries. They won over 800 years ago, and they're fine with things being in a status quo. Blackbeard is a proactionary. He and Luffy have repeatedly shaken the status quo. Imu cut up both of their bounty posters, because both are a threat to their reign.
In the end, the reign of the Celestial Dragon's hold over the world will fall....but there can be only one to lead the New Era. Only one Pirate King. Only one inheritor of the will of the Ancient Kingdom.
1-None of that changes the fact that WB's "prophecy" is referring to the WG and that he explicitly points out that Blackbeard is not that guy
2-You ignore that the WG NEVER dedicated its full might against 1 specific target, since they need to watch over the whole world and some forces are kept close at hand like CP0 and the God knights. The closest thing we got was Marineford and even then it was just the Marines and a couple of Pacifistas, with the Shichibukai mainly just fucking around.
3-You're forgetting that now the Marines are stronger and that the SSG reached a point to where the Shichibukai arent needed, meaning 2 of the original 3 great powers are directly under the control of the WG
4-This
This alone outdoes anything any pirate in the series has been show being capable of doing
2-You ignore that the WG NEVER dedicated its full might against 1 specific target, since they need to watch over the whole world and some forces are kept close at hand like CP0 and the God knights. The closest thing we got was Marineford and even then it was just the Marines and a couple of Pacifistas, with the Shichibukai mainly just fucking around.
3-You're forgetting that now the Marines are stronger and that the SSG reached a point to where the Shichibukai arent needed, meaning 2 of the original 3 great powers are directly under the control of the WG
4-This
Can Doflamingo bend the will of the ''World'' or is that just a metaphor? Learn what metaphor is.
WB doesn't have a government prophecy, he said someone will challenge the world you still keep repeating the same nonsense thats world = world government, its not. Government never stopped Yonko from doing anything, Yonko are ruling the new world as they like. Even then, BB can replace the world government leaders as Xebec planned to do, since Teach is destined to surpass Xebec, its possible he can replace them as well.
WB talked about things in Marineford battle, who was the winner of that battle? BB, who stopped the war? Shanks. Still Yonko decided things not the government.
Your scan doesn't show Imu is doing anything, thats clearly an ancient weapon, similar to Shirahoshi. Its a weapon that can be used by other people, meaning there are places that can be use same as Shirahoshi can't be use everywhere, Imu is not going to destroy his own island, its not usable in 1 v 1 battles.
Even SSG is under the control of York, even if Gorosei gets the control of them its not guaranteed Vegapunk won't take it back, again baseless assumptions.
Oda already said the One Piece story is based on fighting against Yonko, if you find any material that states the main story and main rival is government then show it here.
Even Doflamingo said he could take that Imu's power if he had the Ope Ope no Mi, Teach is going to surpass Xebec, do the math.
Sure, its the same people that threatened by Doflamingo, and they failed to kill Doflamingo after Doflamingo learned their secret
''When they realised they couldn't kill me''
These people couldn't do anything to Doflamingo and gave him what he wants instead, but somehow they can ''demolish'' Yonko?
That pathetic narrative which is government wants Yonko to exist is debunked once they declared ''Marine Hunter'' Cross Guild as Yonko, who are ''major, major threat'' to the Government. Government is desperate vs. Yonko.
Blackbeard will be Pirate King before Luffy. Blackbeard has been built up for 800+ chapters, makes you wonder what will be his difference with Kaido, BM or others who sought the title. I think it will be that he will succeed where others have failed. I don't think Oda would waste that much effort for a character just for him to end up like the others. He will be Pirate King at final war then Luffy and BB will fight for the title and for claiming One Piece.
I'm 99% sure Blackbeard will be final villain, .9% for Imu and .1% for others.
I'm 99% sure Blackbeard will be final villain, .9% for Imu and .1% for others.
Oda is the king of foreshadowing, and he is the one who drew this picture of an angry Imu tearing apart posters of Luffy, Blackbeard, Shirahoshi, while holding a picture of Vivi
And what do we know about them ?
- Shirahoshi is an ancient weapon, who will play a role at EOS
- Vivi is a descendant of Lili who appears to be linked to Imu, so likely to play a role at EOS
- Luffy is a D(enemy of Celestial Dragons) as well as the main character, so will also play a role at EOS
Going by this logic then, it's very likely that Blackbeard will play a role at EOS as well. He is also a D, but except he is an evil D with the aim at controlling the world the Celestial Dragons created
He is the one mentioned to have historical research as a hobby
The one who did the most researches about devil fruits and waited decades to get the right one(Yami Yami no mi), the one who prepared his way to the top starting by taking the Shichibukai title to invade Impel Down and get the strongest subordinates, the one who waited for his opportunity post-Marineford to take Whitebeard's fruit, later becoming a yonko, the one who did preparations to get to get to Laugh Tale at the right moment(invading WCI to get a poneglyph copy, poneglyph reader Pudding, getting Law's Wano and maybe Zou poneglyph copies, etc).
But his goal doesn't stop at Pirate King, explaining why he is also thinking ahead by planning to strike a deal with the World Government concerning his king status in Beehive(an island related to Xebec, who had the aim at becoming King of the World), which could likely just be a step forward in his goal at becoming King of the World and thus taking Imu's place
Also, although it's still debatable, i think Cariboo might be linked to Blackbeard, in reference to that man. And Cariboo might play a huge role into the story since he is one of the few who know the location of 2 ancient weapons(Shirahoshi, and Pluton in Wano), with the Blackbeard ship shown nearby Egghead possibly being related to this. As stated before, Blackbeard is an evil D, the complete opposite of Luffy as shown since Jaya
- Luffy is the Sun God while Blackbeard is the Darkness
- Luffy wants to be the most free man on sea while Blackbeard wants to control the world
- Luffy doesn't care about ancient weapons, but Blackbeard would
And what do we know about them ?
- Shirahoshi is an ancient weapon, who will play a role at EOS
- Vivi is a descendant of Lili who appears to be linked to Imu, so likely to play a role at EOS
- Luffy is a D(enemy of Celestial Dragons) as well as the main character, so will also play a role at EOS
Going by this logic then, it's very likely that Blackbeard will play a role at EOS as well. He is also a D, but except he is an evil D with the aim at controlling the world the Celestial Dragons created
He is the one mentioned to have historical research as a hobby
But his goal doesn't stop at Pirate King, explaining why he is also thinking ahead by planning to strike a deal with the World Government concerning his king status in Beehive(an island related to Xebec, who had the aim at becoming King of the World), which could likely just be a step forward in his goal at becoming King of the World and thus taking Imu's place
Also, although it's still debatable, i think Cariboo might be linked to Blackbeard, in reference to that man. And Cariboo might play a huge role into the story since he is one of the few who know the location of 2 ancient weapons(Shirahoshi, and Pluton in Wano), with the Blackbeard ship shown nearby Egghead possibly being related to this. As stated before, Blackbeard is an evil D, the complete opposite of Luffy as shown since Jaya
- Luffy is the Sun God while Blackbeard is the Darkness
- Luffy wants to be the most free man on sea while Blackbeard wants to control the world
- Luffy doesn't care about ancient weapons, but Blackbeard would
Since you need to understand what is ''metaphor'' and what is literal, here another scan to debunk your argument:
Can Doflamingo bend the will of the ''World'' or is that just a metaphor? Learn what metaphor is.
WB doesn't have a government prophecy, he said someone will challenge the world you still keep repeating the same nonsense thats world = world government, its not. Government never stopped Yonko from doing anything, Yonko are ruling the new world as they like. Even then, BB can replace the world government leaders as Xebec planned to do, since Teach is destined to surpass Xebec, its possible he can replace them as well.
WB talked about things in Marineford battle, who was the winner of that battle? BB, who stopped the war? Shanks. Still Yonko decided things not the government.
Your scan doesn't show Imu is doing anything, thats clearly an ancient weapon, similar to Shirahoshi. Its a weapon that can be used by other people, meaning there are places that can be use same as Shirahoshi can't be use everywhere, Imu is not going to destroy his own island, its not usable in 1 v 1 battles.
Even SSG is under the control of York, even if Gorosei gets the control of them its not guaranteed Vegapunk won't take it back, again baseless assumptions.
Oda already said the One Piece story is based on fighting against Yonko, if you find any material that states the main story and main rival is government then show it here.
Even Doflamingo said he could take that Imu's power if he had the Ope Ope no Mi, Teach is going to surpass Xebec, do the math.
Sure, its the same people that threatened by Doflamingo, and they failed to kill Doflamingo after Doflamingo learned their secret
''When they realised they couldn't kill me''
These people couldn't do anything to Doflamingo and gave him what he wants instead, but somehow they can ''demolish'' Yonko?
That pathetic narrative which is government wants Yonko to exist is debunked once they declared ''Marine Hunter'' Cross Guild as Yonko, who are ''major, major threat'' to the Government. Government is desperate vs. Yonko.
Can Doflamingo bend the will of the ''World'' or is that just a metaphor? Learn what metaphor is.
WB doesn't have a government prophecy, he said someone will challenge the world you still keep repeating the same nonsense thats world = world government, its not. Government never stopped Yonko from doing anything, Yonko are ruling the new world as they like. Even then, BB can replace the world government leaders as Xebec planned to do, since Teach is destined to surpass Xebec, its possible he can replace them as well.
WB talked about things in Marineford battle, who was the winner of that battle? BB, who stopped the war? Shanks. Still Yonko decided things not the government.
Your scan doesn't show Imu is doing anything, thats clearly an ancient weapon, similar to Shirahoshi. Its a weapon that can be used by other people, meaning there are places that can be use same as Shirahoshi can't be use everywhere, Imu is not going to destroy his own island, its not usable in 1 v 1 battles.
Even SSG is under the control of York, even if Gorosei gets the control of them its not guaranteed Vegapunk won't take it back, again baseless assumptions.
Oda already said the One Piece story is based on fighting against Yonko, if you find any material that states the main story and main rival is government then show it here.
Even Doflamingo said he could take that Imu's power if he had the Ope Ope no Mi, Teach is going to surpass Xebec, do the math.
Sure, its the same people that threatened by Doflamingo, and they failed to kill Doflamingo after Doflamingo learned their secret
''When they realised they couldn't kill me''
These people couldn't do anything to Doflamingo and gave him what he wants instead, but somehow they can ''demolish'' Yonko?
That pathetic narrative which is government wants Yonko to exist is debunked once they declared ''Marine Hunter'' Cross Guild as Yonko, who are ''major, major threat'' to the Government. Government is desperate vs. Yonko.
- You are assuming that Teach has to surpass Rocks, dont know why you think that but even if we accept that its a whole other leap to think that, in order for him to do that, he needs to succeed, when he could surpass him just by being stronger than Rocks and having a stronger crew, wich is way more reasonable
-It seems like the main reason why you think the WG cant be the final villains is because you think they arent that strong, even though prime Whitebeard prefered to avoid them, and both Kaido and BM decided to ally with each other because the Warlords being disbanded was seen as a sign that now they had enough power to end the Yonko
-You seem to forget that, in his quest to become the king of the world, Rocks targeted the CDs in God valley, so even he saw them as the rulers of the world despite their power levels, reinforcing how that is irrelevant to my point
- Even if Imu itself isnt a fighter, we stil have the holy knights and Akainu as potential final matches for Luffy, so the lack of confirmation of its powers doesnt change that fact
-Going back to the prophecy, read it slower my dude, WB said that the world would be challenged AFTER the tresure is found, and he also said that BB isnt the guy that will find it. And you cant say that BB will focus on taking Mary geoise while Luffy goes for the one piece either because he is collecting poneglyphs right now, so he will go after the one piece just like Luffy, therefore he will fail BEFORE the final war. Its very simple and very plain to see
