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#21
Ayy somebody's read my OLD theory ;)

Smoker is experienced though. He's been a Marine for about 20 years now. He's almost as old as Kuzan himself. IIrc the age gap is 6 years or so.
Well i didn't say that because of your theory , but i remember reading your theory that said Coby will eat Hie Hie ? or Pika Pika


Though still can Smoke be on par with current / former Admirals' DFs ? ( Magma Ice Light Gravity Buddha )
 
#22
Well i didn't say that because of your theory , but i remember reading your theory that said Coby will eat Hie Hie ? or Pika Pika


Though still can Smoke be on par with current / former Admirals' DFs ? ( Magma Ice Light Gravity Buddha )
It's not all about the DF though, but Smoke has so much potential, since smoke, depending on what is burning, can exist just above absolute zero to infinitely hot temperatures. It's also poisonous etc. too.

My theory was that Sabo would be killed by an Admiral and Coby would eat the Mera Mera no Mi - made that theory the same week Sabo was proven to still be alive and after 956 it may be coming true.

Also, the pre-skip Admirals come from 3 of the 4 blues, the only other blue being east blue, meaning that I expected the Dragon Admiral (Momotaro character) would come from the East Blue (the 4 corners of the world were guarded by a Monkey, a Dog, a Pheasant and a Dragon in some Chinese mythologies). Just has Smoker written all over it really
 
#23
What rank has more freedom than being top of the food chain? (Fleet Admiral)
Especially after what we can predict may happen to the WG
Vice admiral has more freedom, especially if you're strong. Once you're an admiral you get more responsibilities. And when you're the fleet admiral even less freedom, and so on.

Hence why Garp stopped at Vice Admiral.
 
#24
Vice admiral has more freedom, especially if you're strong. Once you're an admiral you get more responsibilities. And when you're the fleet admiral even less freedom, and so on.

Hence why Garp stopped at Vice Admiral.
I am well aware
Did you completely ignore the second sentence?
 
#25
thematically, Coby getting the Mera Mera no mi doesn't make sense.
Sabo inherited Ace's will

unless it turns out that Coby is somehow a D, I can't see coby eating it.

Coby should eat Aokiji's DF. It makes sense for Coby to inherit Aokiji's will as both of them are marines that directly stood against akainu. IMO Akainu isn't Luffy or Sabo's fight but rather Coby's. Coby is to the marines what Luffy is to the pirates. What's more is that Akainu is to the marines what blackbeard is to the pirates. By eating the hie hie no mi, Coby will gain the power to defeat Akainu. This theory will have a ton of more support if it turns out that Aokiji is actually a member of SWORD.

as for the mera mera no mi, I think that Luffy will use some sort of method to eat 2 DFs.
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that makes the most sense to me. First Ace, then Sabo. The next person should be Luffy.

as to how he could do it? IMO the answer is advanced CoC. Since CoC allows one to be able to overpower the wills of others, I think its also possible for ACoC to allow one to control the wills of others. Essentially, Luffy will be able to use CoC to prevent the devils in his body from destroying himself
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the mera mera no mi has always been the fruit that fought against blackbeard. The light that counters Blackbeard's darkness.

Ace fought blackbeard

Sabo fought Burgess, blackbeard invaded baltigo, and it is very likely that blackbeard will play a role in Sabo's death("I won't let the marines get a hand on it," could refer to the mera mera no mi).

And eventually Luffy will fight blackbeard too.
 
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#27
Fleet Admiral Fujitora

Admiral "Red Flag" X Drake
Admiral "White Chase" Smoker
Admiral "Boa Destroyer" Koby


The only other candidates are Tashigi / Helmeppo, but both are inferior to Smoker/Koby. So if they (the superiors) become Admirals, their counterparts are limited to Vice Admirals. X Drake, if he returns to the marines, will be an Admiral. I'm not sure if X-Drake's an ex-marine who was contacted by Garp, or if he left the marines already apart of SWORD. That's a big factor.
 
#28
Green Bull & Fuji seen to have a good relationship so depending on whether he has the same views as Fujitora, it ms feasible that he remains an admiral EoS.

I’d personally love to see Smoker become FA EoS but i think it’s unlikely if Fuji remains an admiral. In which case my final line up is:

FA: Fujitora
3 Admirals: Smoker, Ryokugyu, Coby
 
#29
It's not all about the DF though, but Smoke has so much potential, since smoke, depending on what is burning, can exist just above absolute zero to infinitely hot temperatures. It's also poisonous etc. too.

My theory was that Sabo would be killed by an Admiral and Coby would eat the Mera Mera no Mi - made that theory the same week Sabo was proven to still be alive and after 956 it may be coming true.

Also, the pre-skip Admirals come from 3 of the 4 blues, the only other blue being east blue, meaning that I expected the Dragon Admiral (Momotaro character) would come from the East Blue (the 4 corners of the world were guarded by a Monkey, a Dog, a Pheasant and a Dragon in some Chinese mythologies). Just has Smoker written all over it really
Yeah actually , Smoker can get strong Haki like Garp

Aokiji came from South Blue , Akainu and Kizaru came from North Blue so they came from 2 Blues , Sengoku from South Blue as well and Fujitora Grand Line
 
#30
Fleet Admiral Fujitora

Admiral "Red Flag" X Drake
Admiral "White Chase" Smoker
Admiral "Boa Destroyer" Koby


The only other candidates are Tashigi / Helmeppo, but both are inferior to Smoker/Koby. So if they (the superiors) become Admirals, their counterparts are limited to Vice Admirals. X Drake, if he returns to the marines, will be an Admiral. I'm not sure if X-Drake's an ex-marine who was contacted by Garp, or if he left the marines already apart of SWORD. That's a big factor.
Law's line to him in sabaody makes me think he was always with SWORD.

Kizaru did attack him but he didn't really fuck him up too bad. I think Kizaru was just playing along so that nobody would suspect drake
 
#31
I am well aware
Did you completely ignore the second sentence?
Your second sentence changing nothing about the responsibilities of an admiral & fleet admiral within a military organization.

Smoker being the strongest marine + Vice Admiral = most freedom within the marines
Smoker being the strongest marine + Fleet Admiral = stuck in office all day
Smoker being the strongest marine + Admiral = most of the times stuck in office, sometimes can go handle shit

I fail to see what would any change in the WG change about higher rank = more responsibilities. Unless, the changes you're referring to have something to do with the admirals and fleet admirals having less responsibility.
 
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#32
Your second sentence changing nothing about the responsibilities of an admiral & fleet admiral within a military organization.

Smoker being the strongest marine + Vice Admiral = most freedom within the marines
Smoker being the strongest marine + Fleet Admiral = stuck in office all day
Smoker being the strongest marine + Admiral = most of the times stuck in office, sometimes can go handle shit

I fail to see what would any change in the WG change about higher rank = more responsibilities. Unless, the changes you're referring to have something to do with the admirals and fleet admirals having less responsibility.
If you're at the top of the food chain i.e. no Gorosei and CD's above you etc. then you have total free reign and freedom to lead and reshape the Marines into whatever you see fits. The whole point of the show is you're only truly free if you report to nobody. Garp isn't even free. He was more free as a VA than an Admiral, but the guy is still tied down by affiliations etc. if he was truly free he'd never be assigned to guard anyone etc. etc.
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Yeah actually , Smoker can get strong Haki like Garp

Aokiji came from South Blue , Akainu and Kizaru came from North Blue so they came from 2 Blues , Sengoku from South Blue as well and Fujitora Grand Line
Sakazuki came from West Blue
 
#33
If you're at the top of the food chain i.e. no Gorosei and CD's above you etc. then you have total free reign and freedom to lead and reshape the Marines into whatever you see fits. The whole point of the show is you're only truly free if you report to nobody. Garp isn't even free. He was more free as a VA than an Admiral, but the guy is still tied down by affiliations etc. if he was truly free he'd never be assigned to guard anyone etc. etc.
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Sakazuki came from West Blue
That doesn't exactly solve anything I said. In fact you just restricted the freedom of the fleet admiral and admirals even more now since they are now responsible for restructuring the marines completelyand building a new system as marine leaders.

And I'm aware Garp didnt have complete freedom, as he never wanted complete freedom. However, comparatively he was freer than any other marine during that era.
Smoker since the very start has established himself as a marine who does not want to deal with the WG higher ups (it's not gonna matter who the higher ups are).

You said there won't be CDs or Gorosei, that's fine. Instead of them there will be somebody else directing the WG, who the marines will have to listen to.
 
#34
That doesn't exactly solve anything I said. In fact you just restricted the freedom of the fleet admiral and admirals even more now since they are now responsible for restructuring the marines completelyand building a new system as marine leaders.

And I'm aware Garp didnt have complete freedom, as he never wanted complete freedom. However, comparatively he was freer than any other marine during that era.
Smoker since the very start has established himself as a marine who does not want to deal with the WG higher ups (it's not gonna matter who the higher ups are).

You said there won't be CDs or Gorosei, that's fine. Instead of them there will be somebody else directing the WG, who the marines will have to listen to.
It is Smoker's dream to restructure the Marines though. He's anti-corruption, which is the reason he refused a promotion after Alabasta etc. That's only been strengthened by his encounter and discovery with Vergo's true allegiances

He's not about freedom. He's about fixing problems and he's being hyped up to be this purifying force within the Marines. His colour is literally the colour of purity: white.
 
#36
Coby's the obvious only guarantee

There's a few things to consider after that. First thing being, how many posts will need to be filled? Sakazuki's an obvious gonner. Kizaru, I would guess, is going down with him, although to be honest I've never really felt him as a particularly bad Marine. Fujitora and Ryokugyu though, they should stick about given their (implied in Ryokugyu's case) anti-WG stance.

So, at least one FA and one Admiral needed. An older Marine is most likely to get the FA job in my opinion- Fujitora, or maybe Kuzan returning especially with this SWORD revelation. Although he might be happier on his own now. Or get knocked off for being a mole by Blackbeard

Smoker probably will still end up Admiral in strength, but I do think he'll reject a promotion.

I can't see Helmeppo or Tashigi being strong enough.

Sentomaru and Drake are just maybes. It's feasible enough they could end up an Admiral, but I don't really see it.

Then there's the wildcard RA to consider. Once they overthrow the World Gov, would they want to join the Marines to make sure actual peace and justice was being kept? FA Dragon and Admiral Sabo? Don't think it's all that likely, but it's something to be considered. If I was forced to guess, I'd say

FA- Fujitora
Admiral- Ryokugyu, Coby, Drake(?)
 
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#37
If you're at the top of the food chain i.e. no Gorosei and CD's above you etc. then you have total free reign and freedom to lead and reshape the Marines into whatever you see fits. The whole point of the show is you're only truly free if you report to nobody. Garp isn't even free. He was more free as a VA than an Admiral, but the guy is still tied down by affiliations etc. if he was truly free he'd never be assigned to guard anyone etc. etc.
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Sakazuki came from West Blue
Akainu is from North blue.
 

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#40
I have a Little different Kind of Picture in my head about the Marines after the last big war.

In my understanding, the place of Kong, will get Issho. He has a different Picture of peace than Akainu has, he is some of the good marines

Kong -> Issho
FA -> Smoker
Admirals -> Coby, Drake, Tashigi
 
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