General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
The problem is that you are talking about the wrong conclusion. My point was never that Carrot was "meant" to become a strawhat my point was always that she was written like one and therefore had the most potential to become one d. There is a difference in those conclusion. One in a certainty, the other leave room for another possibility.
And Carrot was indeed written like a strawhat, but even more so, like an important character at least in the subtexts.
That's not what I'm arguiing here.
Not herself, but the narration is pointing toward Carrot being a major player in that dynamic. Perhaps as a spectator, but a player nonetheless.
Because you had reasons to move on. The story of Yamato was put to an end. The story of Carrot is not that simple. Her end doesn't match her characterization, which could lead to a potential development.
Well.. can you reply with precision to at least 3 or 4 of those questions ?
And Carrot was indeed written like a strawhat, but even more so, like an important character at least in the subtexts.
That's not what I'm arguiing here.
Not herself, but the narration is pointing toward Carrot being a major player in that dynamic. Perhaps as a spectator, but a player nonetheless.
Because you had reasons to move on. The story of Yamato was put to an end. The story of Carrot is not that simple. Her end doesn't match her characterization, which could lead to a potential development.
Well.. can you reply with precision to at least 3 or 4 of those questions ?
No. What was put in front of Carrot is usually what we put in front of a character at the beginning of a storyarc. This is not something that suit her character, that's why its so "un Oda" to do that.. UNLESS, this was done to setup something. Which would be the best option when we look at Carrot's story.
Listen! I don’t mean this in a rude way. I do understand all you story analyzing and the way she was portrayed. And how suddenly she was side lined and then how we had that ambigues ending with her where we do not know she accepted the ruler of Zou title or not. But all the analyzing you did was pointing to her joining the strawhats at the end of wano(according to you). And it didn’t happen. I know you said a few times that if she does show up in this chapter or that doesn’t happen than her changes drop and even you will admit it.
Just let it go Bro. You are not that good at analyzing stories as you like to believeShe isn’t joining
let her rest now
I’m sorry
Just let it go Bro. You are not that good at analyzing stories as you like to believeShe isn’t joining
let her rest now
I’m sorry
This and the dream/goal/desire indeed, were the ONLY things that Carrot lacked to be considered a full strawhat. But like I have explained already multiple times before, this is just one of the many parameters of the writing of a strawhat.
Well... arguable. I don't feel baited yet. More like put on standby
Yes and no. In reality, all my reasonning for the first theory (the CarrotForNakama theory) was pointing toward two things : first indeed to carrot joining, but second to Carrot becoming somewhat important in the story later.
That's why I was not surprised to see her be given the title of Zou. The story portrayed her as an important character despite being a secondary character. (remember all the time I said "no Carrot is not irrelevant despite her lack of story screentime?") I would be surprised on the other hand if that was the end of her story.
The Carrot For Nakama is dead, my conclusion was proven wrong. But we are talking here about a second theory based on the hypothesis that Carrot could have an important place in the story related to the notion of the Dawn and that it could or could not impact her status as Queen and her relationship with the strawhats.
My conclusion to the first theory was that passed a certain point in the story, Carrot's chance would be done. But I rationnalized that on the fact that it was what Oda had done everytime in the story. Oda could still prove me wrong, and Carrot could still join the crew because of that relationship with the Dawn and the element of that second theory.
That's why I'm debatting this here.
Well... arguable. I don't feel baited yet. More like put on standby
Yes and no. In reality, all my reasonning for the first theory (the CarrotForNakama theory) was pointing toward two things : first indeed to carrot joining, but second to Carrot becoming somewhat important in the story later.
That's why I was not surprised to see her be given the title of Zou. The story portrayed her as an important character despite being a secondary character. (remember all the time I said "no Carrot is not irrelevant despite her lack of story screentime?") I would be surprised on the other hand if that was the end of her story.
The Carrot For Nakama is dead, my conclusion was proven wrong. But we are talking here about a second theory based on the hypothesis that Carrot could have an important place in the story related to the notion of the Dawn and that it could or could not impact her status as Queen and her relationship with the strawhats.
My conclusion to the first theory was that passed a certain point in the story, Carrot's chance would be done. But I rationnalized that on the fact that it was what Oda had done everytime in the story. Oda could still prove me wrong, and Carrot could still join the crew because of that relationship with the Dawn and the element of that second theory.
That's why I'm debatting this here.
MDA, one of his first lines since joining the topic was "Carrot is joining. Those who deny this fact are just toxic." We waged a one man war against the whole thread and another forum saying Carrot is obviously joining according to his story telling knowledge, and that we're all blind pigeons and other political buzzwords for not seeing it. All of that just be to be horriblly wrong. Instead of accepting it, he immediately claimed that his analysis was spot on and Oda must've changed his mind.
You can't help him. No one can
You can't help him. No one can
