General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[IIskandar1997]

But, her feats are clearly more impressive and significant than Oden’s at that age

They REALLY arent

DF powers are strength.

The point is that her DF is only useful in very specifi scenarios and/or require a lot of prep time, the raid on Onigashima was pretty much the only scenario where her powers are useful.

 

[Okamakama]

We have sun god, a talking animal, a cyborg, a skeleton, an ex-warlord (also a fish-man), an ex-marine would be the icing on the cake. Also we are still missing a logia user in the crew.

Smoker it is

Wmoker greatness
Helps that he's a dilf.

 

[IIskandar1997]

Her powers are super convenient in general, Luffy said so himself when they first met

They arent conveninent for COMBAT, they are conveninent for other things

What prep time? She arrived in the middle of the battle and turned the tides of the raid

She spent the whole journey towards Onigashima making Dangos, and was only able to deliver them in mass because she already had multiple slaves from udon. Thats all a lot of prep time

Not counting her DF when analyzing Tama is just not fair

I am counting her DF, I'm just not forgetting that:
1-Not every island has powerful animals
2-Gifters were a Beast pirates only thing
3-Even with those 2 things on her side she still needed to constantly be protected, needing even bullshit like the "Mother mode" to prevent her from being killed. In the raid she was a huge asset, anywhere else she is a massive liability

 

[Peppercore]

Oda breaks the internet next chapter when he puts the female SH in a cover story and Vivi, Yamato and Carrot are there.

this will happen, I will convince oda to do this

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

I am counting her DF, I'm just not forgetting that:
1-Not every island has powerful animals
2-Gifters were a Beast pirates only thing
3-Even with those 2 things on her side she still needed to constantly be protected, needing even bullshit like the "Mother mode" to prevent her from being killed. In the raid she was a huge asset, anywhere else she is a massive liability

Laboon is an animal, Little Garden had Dinosaurs , Drum Island had the Lapahn, Alabasta had Banana Gators, Skypiea had a giant Snake, Water 7 had giant sea horses, Thriller Bark had the Cerberus and other animal hybrids, Mihawk island had those baboons, Luffy developed Gear 4 fighting strong animals, The Kraken is a thing, Punk Hazard had Smiley and animal hybrids, Ucy was stronger than most coliseum fighters and there was those spotted sharks, Zunisha is a thing, Dragons exist in the canon, Elbaf most likely also has a giant fauna and there's still Roger's egg.
The grand majority of islands in the grand line had a weird and usually above human level of strength creatures. People who think Tama's power is situational are blind. Luffy even said it was a very useful power upon first seeing it.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

They REALLY arent

She tanked an attack from Ulti, how dare you?

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Tama can easilly no dif Stronger

Maybe he's on to something

Tama comes in late with the clutch to defeat Stronger and Doc Q? Tama taking Stronger out right at the beginning is kind of cheap (but still fucking hilarious).

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

The power-level obsessed, shallow-reader take is to hate Tama for being a plot-device that ruined the oh so hyped gifter menace. Assuming that Oda couldn't think of a better way to deal with how strong they were.

The character-driven, deep-reader epiphany is realizing that the gifters were created so that Tama, the last nakama, would shine even more in her own arc.

 

[IIskandar1997]

Laboon is an animal, Little Garden had Dinosaurs , Drum Island had the Lapahn, Alabasta had Banana Gators, Skypiea had a giant Snake, Water 7 had giant sea horses, Thriller Bark had the Cerberus and other animal hybrids, Mihawk island had those baboons, Luffy developed Gear 4 fighting strong animals, The Kraken is a thing, Punk Hazard had Smiley and animal hybrids, Ucy was stronger than most coliseum fighters and there was those spotted sharks, Zunisha is a thing, Dragons exist in the canon, Elbaf most likely also has a giant fauna and there's still Roger's egg.
The grand majority of islands in the grand line had a weird and usually above human level of strength creatures. People who think Tama's power is situational are blind. Luffy even said it was a very useful power upon first seeing it.

How would she even feed a Dango to Laboon? and all the other animals you mentioned were completely inconsequential besides the ones on Rusukaina, but why would the crerw ever go there? And is very unlikely that it would work on Zunisha since its a special being

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The power-level obsessed

You say that while desperately trying to convince others that she isnt complete fodder, so wich one is it?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

So if I'm understanding this thread right, Tama scales somewhere between YC1 and Admiral level

Is this correct? @CoC: Color of Clowns @Devilbat @Meeyori @Random_Kurozumi @Sir Yasheen

 

[Sir Yasheen]

So if I'm understanding this thread right, Tama scales somewhere between YC1 and Admiral level

Is this correct? @CoC: Color of Clowns @Devilbat @Meeyori @Random_Kurozumi @Sir Yasheen

That’s the power of plot convenience lmao

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

How would she even feed a Dango to Laboon? and all the other animals you mentioned were completely inconsequential besides the ones on Rusukaina, but why would the crerw ever go there? And is very unlikely that it would work on Zunisha since its a special being

The Snake in Skypia wasn't inconsequential at all, on top of being quite strong she kept Luffy away from Enel. My point was that there are strange and strong animals in almost every island. If Tama was there she could use them to the strawhats advantage

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So if I'm understanding this thread right, Tama scales somewhere between YC1 and Admiral level

Is this correct? @CoC: Color of Clowns @Devilbat @Meeyori @Random_Kurozumi @Sir Yasheen

Are we counting O-Lin?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

you say that while desperately trying to convince others that she isnt complete fodder, so wich one is it?

Don't forget he unironically put her above kid Oden

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

So if I'm understanding this thread right, Tama scales somewhere between YC1 and Admiral level

Is this correct? @CoC: Color of Clowns @Devilbat @Meeyori @Random_Kurozumi @Sir Yasheen

Tama is hard to scale because she's completely dependent on what animals are around her. Before, it was even worse, since she herself had no means of giving her Chibi Dongos to enemies without risking certain injury/death.

If she gets some Ninja skills, and can shoot her Dangos into animals mouths without relying on other people (like Usopp during the Raid), she's a lot more useful.

So, without any animals, she's around kid-Usopp level, but, if Tama gets access to a ton of strong animals and has the Ninja skills to tame them, she'd probably be around low Tobi Roppo level, like Page One.

If Tama was in an area with actual ancient beasts, like the OG dragons Kaido and Momo's Fruits are based off of, she'd really shine, though.

Tama is a total wildcard in terms of power level, it all depends on what island she's on, and if she can actually get the Kibi Dangos into the animals she wants to control.

Her Fruit's Awakening would be really interesting to see. Maybe Tama's Awakening allows her to turn her animal companions Sulong? Or, she can tame actual Zoans for a short time?

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Are we counting O-Lin?

Sure!

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Tama is hard to scale because she's completely dependent on what animals are around her. Before, it was even worse, since she herself had no means of giving her Chibi Dongos to enemies without risking certain injury/death.

If she gets some Ninja skills, and can shoot her Dangos into animals mouths without relying on other people (like Usopp during the Raid), she's a lot more useful.

So, without any animals, she's around kid-Usopp level, but, if Tama gets access to a ton of strong animals and has the Ninja skills to tame them, she'd probably be around low Tobi Roppo level, like Page One.

If Tama was in an area with actual ancient beasts, like the OG dragons Kaido and Momo's Fruits are based off of, she'd really shine, though.

Tama is a total wildcard in terms of power level, it all depends on what island she's on, and if she can actually get the Kibi Dangos into the animals she wants to control.

Her Fruit's Awakening would be really interesting to see. Maybe Tama's Awakening allows her to turn her animal companions Sulong? Or, she can tame actual Zoans for a short time?

Mecha Shark Tama is Emperor level tbh

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Tama is hard to scale because she's completely dependent on what animals are around her. Before, it was even worse, since she herself had no means of giving her Chibi Dongos to enemies without risking certain injury/death.

If she gets some Ninja skills, and can shoot her Dangos into animals mouths without relying on other people (like Usopp during the Raid), she's a lot more useful.

So, without any animals, she's around kid-Usopp level, but, if Tama gets access to a ton of strong animals and has the Ninja skills to tame them, she'd probably be around low Tobi Roppo level, like Page One.

If Tama was in an area with actual ancient beasts, like the OG dragons Kaido and Momo's Fruits are based off of, she'd really shine, though.

Tama is a total wildcard in terms of power level, it all depends on what island she's on, and if she can actually get the Kibi Dangos into the animals she wants to control.

Her Fruit's Awakening would be really interesting to see. Maybe Tama's Awakening allows her to turn her animal companions Sulong? Or, she can tame actual Zoans for a short time?

Oh yeah if she had an awakening and that's what it did, I wouldn't be nearly as opposed to her joining. That's why I say wait for her to grow up in Two Piece, where she can actually shine and be good.

 

[Warback]

The power-level obsessed, shallow-reader take is to hate Tama for being a plot-device that ruined the oh so hyped gifter menace. Assuming that Oda couldn't think of a better way to deal with how strong they were.

The character-driven, deep-reader epiphany is realizing that the gifters were created so that Tama, the last nakama, would shine even more in her own arc.

Or her powers are gimmick for an arc where they fight the beast pirates


And probably a nice intro into the power of the former user who controled Zuneesha

 

[Random_Kurozumi]

Tama's awakening lets her control humans. Humans are animals.

Or her powers are gimmick for an arc where they fight the beast pirates


And probably a nice intro into the power of the former user who controled Zuneesha

This doesn't explain why Oda made her nakama.

 

[CoC: Color of Clowns]

Oh yeah if she had an awakening and that's what it did, I wouldn't be nearly as opposed to her joining. That's why I say wait for her to grow up in Two Piece, where she can actually shine and be good.

We'll just have to wait until Act 4 either does or doesn't happen.

I honestly don't want Two Piece, either. But, if Oda wants it, I guess I'll accept it.