General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Admiral Maynard]

Prove the contrary..

Vivi walks the way of the Alabasta D clan princess. You can impossibly compare her to Nami, who chose the way of the weather witch.

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"Looks like I'm gonna have to do something about this."

It's clear she thinks she has the capability of breaking out and escaping. Also, the wall has yet to crack, but she knows Wapol is coming....

Hakiwoman.

Unironically yes

 

[Okamakama]

Vivi walks the way of the Alabasta D clan princess. You can impossibly compare her to Nami, who chose the way of the weather witch.

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Unironically yes

Peacock Slashers with an evasive CoO fighting style will make her essentially the battle dancer archetype ;)

Imagine if she had CoA but none of the other non-M3+Jinbe had it... wtf...

 

[Rootbeer]

"Looks like I'm gonna have to do something about this."

It's clear she thinks she has the capability of breaking out and escaping. Also, the wall has yet to crack, but she knows Wapol is coming....

Hakiwoman.

Vivi walks the way of the Alabasta D clan princess. You can impossibly compare her to Nami, who chose the way of the weather witch.

Post automatically merged: Jun 9, 2023

Unironically yes

Both of your Vivi's fanboyism are showing a bit too much there..

 

[Okamakama]

Both of your Vivi's fanboyism are showing a bit too much there..

Hey... I gave you some proof. She clearly was confident that she could handle it. However, she is also smart and knew she couldn't just attach CP-0 as she is a Princess and it would have ramifications for Alabasta.

 

[ShiShiShi]

And the best way to keep her away from Imu is with the Plot Armor crew.. lol


She has to if she's going to join..

No she does not.

She could have an ability like Nami’s and do just fine. Like what has been said before, she managed to get into Baroque Works with her own strength. She’s not weak, you just might think that when comparing her to stronger people.

Nami, Sanji and Usopp prove that you don’t need a DF to be strong and survive in the New World.

 

[Admiral Maynard]

Peacock Slashers with an evasive CoO fighting style will make her essentially the battle dancer archetype ;)

Imagine if she had CoA but none of the other non-M3+Jinbe had it... wtf...

I don't think she has CoA but CoC or CoO wouldn't be too farfetched

Both of your Vivi's fanboyism are showing a bit too much there..

I know




Bougya

 

[Rootbeer]

Hey... I gave you some proof. She clearly was confident that she could handle it. However, she is also smart and knew she couldn't just attach CP-0 as she is a Princess and it would have ramifications for Alabasta.

Yeah i can show you a proof of Vivi punching Luffy, so what..
She got freed by someone..

No she does not.

She could have an ability like Nami’s and do just fine. Like what has been said before, she managed to get into Baroque Works with her own strength. She’s not weak, you just might think that when comparing her to stronger people.

Nami, Sanji and Usopp prove that you don’t need a DF to be strong and survive in the New World.

What ability, she's weak.. Only a Devil Fruit power at this point..

 

[ShiShiShi]

Yeah i can show you a proof of Vivi punching Luffy, so what..
She got freed by someone..



What ability, she's weak.. Only a Devil Fruit power at this point..

Could you seriously not read what I just said

 

[Rootbeer]

Could you seriously not read what I just said

One Piece ran out of non Devil Fruit powers.. Yes she's weak and Nami is still weak without Zeus..

Getting in Baroque Works.. Mr. 9 is the reference there.. She clearly got in because of Igaram.. lol

 

[ShiShiShi]

One Piece ran out of non Devil Fruit powers.. Yes she's weak and Nami is still weak without Zeus..

Nami didn’t even have Zeus until Whole Cake Island. She did fine up until that point.

Getting in Baroque Works.. Mr. 9 is the reference there.. She clearly got in because of Igaram.. lol

Do we know this for sure? Actually, wait, what do you mean “because of Igaram”?

You’re downplaying Vivi a lot here. We can’t say that she’s as weak as she may have been pre-timeskip because she’s only been shown at the Reverie so far. She could’ve trained a bit for those two years like the others did and we just don’t know about it yet.

 

[Rootbeer]

Nami didn’t even have Zeus until Whole Cake Island. She did fine up until that point.



Do we know this for sure? Actually, wait, what do you mean “because of Igaram”?

You’re downplaying Vivi a lot here. We can’t say that she’s as weak as she may have been pre-timeskip because she’s only been shown at the Reverie so far. She could’ve trained a bit for those two years like the others did and we just don’t know about it yet.

I don't sign for this type of Vivi Wank.. I do believe with the current events that she will get back on the Strawhat crew, and she will eat a Devil Fruit.. That's more reasonable than saying she's strong, got Haki or a random power unrelated to Devil Fruits..

 

[ShiShiShi]

I don't sign for this type of Vivi Wank.. I do believe with the current events that she will get back on the Strawhat crew, and she will eat a Devil Fruit.. That's more reasonable than saying she's strong, got Haki or a random power unrelated to Devil Fruits..

What? It wasn’t…

I just don’t see what DF it could be that would fit her character. I still have a hard time believing that theory about her getting the Nikyu Nikyu no Mi, I just can’t see it for some reason.

And if it’s not that, then what would it be? It’d probably have to be a new fruit of some sort.

 

[Rootbeer]

What? It wasn’t…

I just don’t see what DF it could be that would fit her character. I still have a hard time believing that theory about her getting the Nikyu Nikyu no Mi, I just can’t see it for some reason.

And if it’s not that, then what would it be? It’d probably have to be a new fruit of some sort.

The Snow Logia..

A Logia or Paramecia.. Hell just let her eat Wapol's Fruit and get rid of him off screen..

 

[ShiShiShi]

The Snow Logia..

A Logia or Paramecia.. Hell just let her eat Wapol's Fruit and get rid of him off screen..

Dude wants him DEAD

I kinda don’t blame you though. He’s very annoying.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Vivi can't join the crew.

She is already part of the crew.

 

[Sigran101]

Vivi’s was never some damsel in distress weakling. I’ve no idea where the idea she was complete fodder came from. She can fight, and she beat her own Baroque Works pair. Won’t be as strong as the main ten, but it won’t be needed for her to be. Luffy wouldn’t have invited her if she was a weakling, Zoro said she was strong a few chapters ago.

Kuzan killed the need for a proper eleventh, Vivi as 5.5 will fit right back in where she used to. The important thing is the plot leading to her needing to come back to the crew for a massive endgame role.

She lost to a small group of millions shortly after that

 

[Admiral Maynard]

She lost to a small group of millions shortly after that

Bro ily but your Vivi hate is unwarranted

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Bro ily but your Vivi hate is unwarranted

It's for the Stussy agenda

 

[Admiral Maynard]

It's for the Stussy agenda

Oh I see

Regarding Vivi, why are people obsessed with her fighting skills or lack thereof? Do they want her to join the monster trio?? Vivi is strong enought to hold her own and for anything more dangerous she'll have the crew. Vivi's qualities are her leadership, her willpower, her independence and love for her country & friends.
She's a born stateswoman and a skilled negotiator and diplomat.
She doesn't have a strength related dream nor does every strawhat need a strength related dream.
We just saw in the recent chapter that her father Cobra, despite having been a non combatant all his life and despite his crippling illness, was a man of extraordinary mental strength and willpower.
Vivi is just like that! Heck she's a D for duck's sake.
Was Otohime a combatant?? Far from it, leadership, mental and emotional strength and compassion were here forte.

Sure, this is a battle shonen but why can't people see that Vivi is not the first One Piece character who doesn't need extraordinary combat skills and brutality to be a competent and capable character?

 

[ShiShiShi]

She lost to a small group of millions shortly after that

I hope you’re joking about that match-up.