General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
Nothing here is Yamato saying "Yamato said that staying in Wano isn't what she wanted" Yamato choosed that life winlingly just as predicted.
Here is something I wrote after the realease of chapter 1047
In good stories desires to become the opposite or a twist on the original desire (spoiler alert):
- Jack Sparrow, Pirate 1/2/3 is first egotistical and only wants immortality for himself but gives it up at the end to save his friend
- Grant, in Jurassic Park, starts with a hate for children, but he will developp a relationship with them and will end up doing everything to keep them safe at the end
- Wall-E's main desire will be to stay close to Eve.. but he will end up doing everything to Bring everyone back on Earth, Eve's first mission.
Desire are related to the flaws and the needs of the character.
Let's say that you begin your story with an old man protagonist, alone in his house. He will do everything to keep away children's out of his home.
The desire: To keep Children's out
The flaws : The old man is crunky, and has a very associable behavior
The need : The character needs to understand that being alone will only get him so far..
At the beginning a little child, let's say a far relative having no one else.. will be given to his care...
And with that, you have the beginning of a story. (I simplified things here, it's a bit more technical in reality)
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This is a simple exemple to make you understand that the primary desire is but a consequence of the flaws/personnality of the protagonist and in most stories.. because the protagonist is bound to evolve.. the desire is bound to evolve with them. (The old man will understand to take care of this boy and will be more welcoming of the neightboors) - It changes in something more personnal, more logical, more ethical. (sometimes the exact opposite of that, for example Anakin in Star Wars E3 primary desire is to help the Jedi council understand the truth behind chancelor Palpatine's skeam, and ends up following him at the ends, destroying the Jedi order)
In the case of Yamato, there is nothing really personnal in her wish to join Luffy, it's but a consequence of what she heard about him and her goal to be free. Like Yamato said it herself: "As Ace brother, I figured you would let me a place on your ship". > This is not a logical reasonning.
That is why I think something much more personnal is coming for Yamato, something that will truly make her udnerstand how she can achieve freedom. But for that: Yamato needs something: To understand who she really is and to accept her responsilities as a guide for Momo. (at least, that's what the story is hinting so far)
Primary desire: To sail the seas
Flaws : Yamato is not acting for herself or as herself
Need : Yamato needs to live for her, for her own life, she needs to understand what she truly want
For Carrot it's the same but in the opposite. Carrot never stated that she wanted to leave forever with Luffy like you all keep saying, she wanted at first just to go on a simple adventure.
Primary desire: To have fun
Flaws: Carrot don't understand the hardship of the seas and is constantly driven to defeats for her and others
Need: Carrot needs do understand who she truly is in front of hardship and that she deserves to be a pirate.
I was wrong on one thing indeed concerning Yamato, I thought that she would understand that she needed to guide Momo as this was what the story was hinting. The rest happened as predicted and for the reason I said. Yamato's desire was to be free, she found a new way to do this, by doing the exact opposite of what her father wanted to be.
Here is what I wrote the day chapter 1049 dropped:
I'm saying that yamato will CHOOSE her own pass.
What you guys don't understand is that becoming a guardian of Wano doesn't mean that Yamato is doing what her father wants.
Why ?
Because Kaido wanted Yamato to become the shogun in order for HIM to be in control and transform Wano into a chaos land.
But if Yamato chooses for herself to become the guardian of Wano, she will do the EXACT OPPOSITE of that.
By making Yamato do that, Oda will prove that Yamato is finally free. Free from the chains of her father's wishes and will. She will make wano a better place, FREE from her dad's shadow.
That's what true freedom is: the freedom to choose.
Yamato choosed true freedom. And you guys needs to understand that.
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Yup its sarcastic, sorry mate.
Here is something I wrote after the realease of chapter 1047
In good stories desires to become the opposite or a twist on the original desire (spoiler alert):
- Jack Sparrow, Pirate 1/2/3 is first egotistical and only wants immortality for himself but gives it up at the end to save his friend
- Grant, in Jurassic Park, starts with a hate for children, but he will developp a relationship with them and will end up doing everything to keep them safe at the end
- Wall-E's main desire will be to stay close to Eve.. but he will end up doing everything to Bring everyone back on Earth, Eve's first mission.
Desire are related to the flaws and the needs of the character.
Let's say that you begin your story with an old man protagonist, alone in his house. He will do everything to keep away children's out of his home.
The desire: To keep Children's out
The flaws : The old man is crunky, and has a very associable behavior
The need : The character needs to understand that being alone will only get him so far..
At the beginning a little child, let's say a far relative having no one else.. will be given to his care...
And with that, you have the beginning of a story. (I simplified things here, it's a bit more technical in reality)
--
This is a simple exemple to make you understand that the primary desire is but a consequence of the flaws/personnality of the protagonist and in most stories.. because the protagonist is bound to evolve.. the desire is bound to evolve with them. (The old man will understand to take care of this boy and will be more welcoming of the neightboors) - It changes in something more personnal, more logical, more ethical. (sometimes the exact opposite of that, for example Anakin in Star Wars E3 primary desire is to help the Jedi council understand the truth behind chancelor Palpatine's skeam, and ends up following him at the ends, destroying the Jedi order)
In the case of Yamato, there is nothing really personnal in her wish to join Luffy, it's but a consequence of what she heard about him and her goal to be free. Like Yamato said it herself: "As Ace brother, I figured you would let me a place on your ship". > This is not a logical reasonning.
That is why I think something much more personnal is coming for Yamato, something that will truly make her udnerstand how she can achieve freedom. But for that: Yamato needs something: To understand who she really is and to accept her responsilities as a guide for Momo. (at least, that's what the story is hinting so far)
Primary desire: To sail the seas
Flaws : Yamato is not acting for herself or as herself
Need : Yamato needs to live for her, for her own life, she needs to understand what she truly want
For Carrot it's the same but in the opposite. Carrot never stated that she wanted to leave forever with Luffy like you all keep saying, she wanted at first just to go on a simple adventure.
Primary desire: To have fun
Flaws: Carrot don't understand the hardship of the seas and is constantly driven to defeats for her and others
Need: Carrot needs do understand who she truly is in front of hardship and that she deserves to be a pirate.
I was wrong on one thing indeed concerning Yamato, I thought that she would understand that she needed to guide Momo as this was what the story was hinting. The rest happened as predicted and for the reason I said. Yamato's desire was to be free, she found a new way to do this, by doing the exact opposite of what her father wanted to be.
Here is what I wrote the day chapter 1049 dropped:
I'm saying that yamato will CHOOSE her own pass.
What you guys don't understand is that becoming a guardian of Wano doesn't mean that Yamato is doing what her father wants.
Why ?
Because Kaido wanted Yamato to become the shogun in order for HIM to be in control and transform Wano into a chaos land.
But if Yamato chooses for herself to become the guardian of Wano, she will do the EXACT OPPOSITE of that.
By making Yamato do that, Oda will prove that Yamato is finally free. Free from the chains of her father's wishes and will. She will make wano a better place, FREE from her dad's shadow.
That's what true freedom is: the freedom to choose.
Yamato choosed true freedom. And you guys needs to understand that.
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I'm not sure if that is meant sarcastic or not. 
Who said that this is the only hint pointing towards Lucci as the 11th crew member?
Here, because I'm such a nice person: Hints
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I could understand people voting for Vivi, since she has come now into focus again. I wouldn't wonder, if we are going to see her in the next arc.
She does need to go to a country, which is not affiliated with the WG.
Here, because I'm such a nice person: Hints
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I could understand people voting for Vivi, since she has come now into focus again. I wouldn't wonder, if we are going to see her in the next arc.
She does need to go to a country, which is not affiliated with the WG.
