General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
Yep, this.
Oda is hyping Egghead as a "Huge Incident".
Who is famous for covering events like that? Morgans.
BUT, I think the difference is that, this time, he'll be forced to actually report the truth, which will cause a ton of problems for the WG. This was foreshadowed by Vivi calling out Morgans for his deceptive reporting earlier in the arc. I wonder if Morgans can possibly do live broadcasts?
Oda is hyping Egghead as a "Huge Incident".
Who is famous for covering events like that? Morgans.
BUT, I think the difference is that, this time, he'll be forced to actually report the truth, which will cause a ton of problems for the WG. This was foreshadowed by Vivi calling out Morgans for his deceptive reporting earlier in the arc. I wonder if Morgans can possibly do live broadcasts?
I literally made two seperate posts with multiple points adressing your argument and you still haven't responded aside from "lol this guy is scared". Here they are to remind you.
The ball is in your court man. If you have anything more to say other than trying to insult me to avoid responding, then say it. If not then leave me alone. I'm not going to humor this nonsense anymore, I have better things to do than argue about who's deflecting.
The ball is in your court man. If you have anything more to say other than trying to insult me to avoid responding, then say it. If not then leave me alone. I'm not going to humor this nonsense anymore, I have better things to do than argue about who's deflecting.
ups sorry my bad, doesnt read that one(the other is not for me)
well i disagree on that,she is more then that, her charachter is all about sacrifice, she always sacrifice herself in every situation.not just for country, but also her friend
-she lie to protect kohza after they fight as a kid.
-she hold the pain herself after getting hit by wapol to avoid war.
-she take risk at 13yo to join Baroque for her country.
-when igaram "died" you can see how angry she was when someone get hurt for her sake.
-she is fine to get shot as long as the people would save her friend.
- she doesnt even want SH get hurt fighting crocodile for her sake.
now after all she did, you can see that night she really want to go, even her retainer and her father think she probably would go,but she stay.
she sacrifice what she really want(travel with sh) to help heal her wartorn country therefore we have the tearful goodbye and promise that one day somehow sometimes somewhere in the future they meet again and being called nakama.
now in reverie she still sacrifice herself to protect shirahoshi.
and now we all know she and Sh gonna risk their life once again to fight Imu not just for alabasta but for whole world.
Now my question is after root of all evil is no more, after the story of one piece reach the end, after all the sacrifice she made, from what danger vivi need to protect alabasta from? In the story where people go to get their want and dream, when is her turn? How much more she need to sacrificed her self?
if we dont even agree on that premise then we have no point to continue, i leave you alone cause there no more canon material i can use, we can continue later when there a new event or plot that increase or decrease vivi chance to join sh.
well i disagree on that,she is more then that, her charachter is all about sacrifice, she always sacrifice herself in every situation.not just for country, but also her friend
-she lie to protect kohza after they fight as a kid.
-she hold the pain herself after getting hit by wapol to avoid war.
-she take risk at 13yo to join Baroque for her country.
-when igaram "died" you can see how angry she was when someone get hurt for her sake.
-she is fine to get shot as long as the people would save her friend.
- she doesnt even want SH get hurt fighting crocodile for her sake.
now after all she did, you can see that night she really want to go, even her retainer and her father think she probably would go,but she stay.
she sacrifice what she really want(travel with sh) to help heal her wartorn country therefore we have the tearful goodbye and promise that one day somehow sometimes somewhere in the future they meet again and being called nakama.
now in reverie she still sacrifice herself to protect shirahoshi.
and now we all know she and Sh gonna risk their life once again to fight Imu not just for alabasta but for whole world.
Now my question is after root of all evil is no more, after the story of one piece reach the end, after all the sacrifice she made, from what danger vivi need to protect alabasta from? In the story where people go to get their want and dream, when is her turn? How much more she need to sacrificed her self?
if we dont even agree on that premise then we have no point to continue, i leave you alone cause there no more canon material i can use, we can continue later when there a new event or plot that increase or decrease vivi chance to join sh.
All things considered, I don't think Yamato had a dream, at least not one she was motivated enough to have a solid sense of satisfied finality to
I look back at the dreams of the other Straw Hats and it makes me consider more:
Luffy's overall dream has motivated him enough to sail out and try to become Pirate King.
Zoro's dream is to become the world's greatest swordsman, doing so when he defeats Mihawk.
Nami's dream is to draw a map of the entire world.
Usopp's dream is to become a brave warrior of the sea, presumably doing so when he becomes a top sniper like Yasopp.
Sanji's dream is to find the All Blue.
Chopper's dream is to become a great doctor that can cure any disease.
Robin's dream is to find the Rio Poneglyph which tells the True History of the world.
Franky's dream is to build and travel on a ship which can reach the end of the Grand Line.
Brook's dream is to return to Laboon to deliver the final song with his crew recorded in a tone dial before their death.
Jinbe's dream is the coexistence of humans and the undersea dwellers, presumably achieved when fish-man slavery is eliminated and the Celestial Dragons have been ousted from their power.
Now, what would Yamato have that's on par with all of that? I for one think she honestly doesn't. While all the Straw Hats have dreams that have motivated them enough to sail out, the fact that Yamato has stayed behind can speak to how she's honestly not motivated enough to sail out, in order to accomplish something with a sense of finality like the other Straw Hats do. All Yamato seemed to care about was admiring Oden just because he had the freedom she never had, and because he was a symbol of hope for the Wano people. And now that she has freedom and Momo is the new symbol of hope for the Wano people, the lack of strong enough motivation to sail out, and instead stay in Wano to make up for Momo's failure against that treebranch Admiral is evident of the lack of driven purpose Yamato had
So this is what I've concluded: Yamato didn't have a dream, she just had the illusion of one
I look back at the dreams of the other Straw Hats and it makes me consider more:
Luffy's overall dream has motivated him enough to sail out and try to become Pirate King.
Zoro's dream is to become the world's greatest swordsman, doing so when he defeats Mihawk.
Nami's dream is to draw a map of the entire world.
Usopp's dream is to become a brave warrior of the sea, presumably doing so when he becomes a top sniper like Yasopp.
Sanji's dream is to find the All Blue.
Chopper's dream is to become a great doctor that can cure any disease.
Robin's dream is to find the Rio Poneglyph which tells the True History of the world.
Franky's dream is to build and travel on a ship which can reach the end of the Grand Line.
Brook's dream is to return to Laboon to deliver the final song with his crew recorded in a tone dial before their death.
Jinbe's dream is the coexistence of humans and the undersea dwellers, presumably achieved when fish-man slavery is eliminated and the Celestial Dragons have been ousted from their power.
Now, what would Yamato have that's on par with all of that? I for one think she honestly doesn't. While all the Straw Hats have dreams that have motivated them enough to sail out, the fact that Yamato has stayed behind can speak to how she's honestly not motivated enough to sail out, in order to accomplish something with a sense of finality like the other Straw Hats do. All Yamato seemed to care about was admiring Oden just because he had the freedom she never had, and because he was a symbol of hope for the Wano people. And now that she has freedom and Momo is the new symbol of hope for the Wano people, the lack of strong enough motivation to sail out, and instead stay in Wano to make up for Momo's failure against that treebranch Admiral is evident of the lack of driven purpose Yamato had
So this is what I've concluded: Yamato didn't have a dream, she just had the illusion of one
Do you really think Vivi stayed in alabasta to protect it? She's weak as fuck. Had to be rescued by Pell from a couple of fodder. She stayed because she's the future Queen, and she has to lead her people. That responsibility doesn't end when the world government is gone, every country still needs a leader in peace times. And what's your source on Vivi staying in Alabasta being a sacrifice? Given how much she loves her country and people, you're gonna need to prove that she loves the strawhats and adventures MORE if you want to claim that.
So much Vivi slander 
