General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
Not really as the trashing was not only directed at Dizzy (even if he took most of the heat at first) but at all Carrot fans as well. But the reason I came was that in reality, the hate of Carrot fans and the trashing of Carrot I heard of about this thread was just a part of what Carrot fans were dealing with at the time daily on internet.
People were being harrassed, mocked, insulted, trashed on for no other reasons that liking a character. So, after taking the heat for a while on twitter, I decided to target what I saw as one of the sources of the problem: One Piece forums.
That's why I came directly in "conflict mode". I wanted to understand and take the heat if necessary as I had the ammunitions to counter it as much as possible.
You are transforming more and more into a Carrot fan mate... what is happening to you ?
People were being harrassed, mocked, insulted, trashed on for no other reasons that liking a character. So, after taking the heat for a while on twitter, I decided to target what I saw as one of the sources of the problem: One Piece forums.
That's why I came directly in "conflict mode". I wanted to understand and take the heat if necessary as I had the ammunitions to counter it as much as possible.
You are transforming more and more into a Carrot fan mate... what is happening to you ?
No bycicle? I love bycicling.
Don't you wonder why Oda intently draws Kizaru as being conflicted and hinting at defection, with all of worstgen waiting for the admiral to do so? But of course, Oda is not acting upon it, but lets us hanging.
Why add this, if he is not going to act upon it? Oda is hinting at someone defecting - but it is not Kizaru as I said since more than 1 year - it is Lucci.
And this is also the reason why he is hiding Lucci's actions so much. Oda is making a mystery out of:
- How Lucci became a CP0 agent again.
- How Lucci interacted with the SHPs (especially with Luffy) during the time skip
- What Lucci said, when he reported to Saturn/Kizaru/the WG
- How odd Lucci's and Zoro's fight is, with both not really going against each other with the intention to kill and with Oda not really focussing on it.
You might try to answer those `small details´, but there is another story Oda has not shown us and he is slowly diving into it now.
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I came here because I heard the entire thread was trashing Carrot fans present. They were already there.
Plus, one would need to be pretty weak to be influenced negatively about a character just because of one of its defenser...
Just sayin..
Plus, one would need to be pretty weak to be influenced negatively about a character just because of one of its defenser...
Just sayin..
Why add this, if he is not going to act upon it? Oda is hinting at someone defecting - but it is not Kizaru as I said since more than 1 year - it is Lucci.
And this is also the reason why he is hiding Lucci's actions so much. Oda is making a mystery out of:
- How Lucci became a CP0 agent again.
- How Lucci interacted with the SHPs (especially with Luffy) during the time skip
- What Lucci said, when he reported to Saturn/Kizaru/the WG
- How odd Lucci's and Zoro's fight is, with both not really going against each other with the intention to kill and with Oda not really focussing on it.
You might try to answer those `small details´, but there is another story Oda has not shown us and he is slowly diving into it now.
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Oh I don't wonder, I know that there is a world where Kizaru could defect. I don't think it will happen but its completely possible.
Oda is not really writing "this" right now. He is just showing that Kizaru is doing things a little bit unwillingly, but he is still doing it. As of now, there is no clue indicating that Kizaru is about to defect (it could arrive, but we don't have that right now) and the chances for him to do so passed with him attacking Vegapunk. So Kizaru will most likely not defect.
For Oda to prepare Kizaru to defect right now, you would need to see a real hesitation in him.
- Lucci do intend to kill Zoro, the later is just too strong.
- There are no mysteries concerning Lucci.
- And Lucci didn't interacted in a specific way with the strawhats besides Egghead. And at was in a bad way not in a friendly way.
I'm sorry, but there are very few chances - not to say none - for Lucci to turn his back on the gov now. At least with Kizaru, we had reasons to believe so, but there are none with Lucci.
Oda is not really writing "this" right now. He is just showing that Kizaru is doing things a little bit unwillingly, but he is still doing it. As of now, there is no clue indicating that Kizaru is about to defect (it could arrive, but we don't have that right now) and the chances for him to do so passed with him attacking Vegapunk. So Kizaru will most likely not defect.
For Oda to prepare Kizaru to defect right now, you would need to see a real hesitation in him.
- Lucci do intend to kill Zoro, the later is just too strong.
- There are no mysteries concerning Lucci.
- And Lucci didn't interacted in a specific way with the strawhats besides Egghead. And at was in a bad way not in a friendly way.
I'm sorry, but there are very few chances - not to say none - for Lucci to turn his back on the gov now. At least with Kizaru, we had reasons to believe so, but there are none with Lucci.
I did never believe that Kizaru was ever going to turn his back on the WG. In fact, the moment the admiral voiced his concern for Bonney, Kuma and Vegapunk, while trying to hurt them, was the point, when I knew that Luffy would in the end face Kizaru as his main opponent. Because in the past, Luffy always did face the villain, who was either responsible for his new crew mate’s suffering or was the main obstacle for his crew mate’s freedom.
The reason for this thinking is the following: With Kizaru going against his friends, he is going to be the moral reprehensible opposite to the arc’s still veiled protagonist (Lucci), who I have always told has a twin-like counterpart in Shaka (family). This would mean that Lucci is in the same position with his mission inevitably requiring him to go against his family/friends – just like Kizaru’s. Isn’t this coincidence odd to you?
In the past Kizaru and Lucci sacrificed people for their greater goal (Like Robin or Iceberg). Those people were more or less strangers or acquaintance to them. Now, things are different and in the current situation with both characters needing to face the decision of either hurting the people they love (friends/family) or to go against the WG and face the consequences of betraying them.
One of them will go against his friends/family and remain in the WG's service. The other will choose his friends/family and will sacrafice himself.
(I think, I will start reading Marineford in the near future, since we have the same buildup here on Egghead. 😉 All that we are missing now is the character of Ace.)
The reason for this thinking is the following: With Kizaru going against his friends, he is going to be the moral reprehensible opposite to the arc’s still veiled protagonist (Lucci), who I have always told has a twin-like counterpart in Shaka (family). This would mean that Lucci is in the same position with his mission inevitably requiring him to go against his family/friends – just like Kizaru’s. Isn’t this coincidence odd to you?
In the past Kizaru and Lucci sacrificed people for their greater goal (Like Robin or Iceberg). Those people were more or less strangers or acquaintance to them. Now, things are different and in the current situation with both characters needing to face the decision of either hurting the people they love (friends/family) or to go against the WG and face the consequences of betraying them.
One of them will go against his friends/family and remain in the WG's service. The other will choose his friends/family and will sacrafice himself.
(I think, I will start reading Marineford in the near future, since we have the same buildup here on Egghead. 😉 All that we are missing now is the character of Ace.)
Lmao
The only other people who were rooting for Carrot who even still entertained the thread by the time you rolled around were @Shift and @Pot Goblin who were two of the most respectable Conejo bros that nobody was hurling insults at.
What are you on?
The only other people who were rooting for Carrot who even still entertained the thread by the time you rolled around were @Shift and @Pot Goblin who were two of the most respectable Conejo bros that nobody was hurling insults at.
What are you on?
When I'm talking about "Carrot fans", I'm talking about Carrot fans as a group, not individuals. I'm talking about usual slanders of Yamato fan and others fandoms like "Carrot fans are dumb/furry/loser/stupid/etc.". Those were reflecting the harrassment Carrot's fan were facing at the time on internet, harassment that was unilateral and inequal as most Carrot fan were also Yamato fans as well and had therefore no reason to trash on those fandom.
No. You are searching for a meaning that isn't there for Lucci. There is no character arc for Lucci and no clues indicating one for the future, sorry.
No, its still the same. You are searching a character arc in Lucci that doesn't exist. While Kizaru might be facing a moral struggle, there is no equivalence with Lucci who is facing absolutely no moral struggle.
Lucci is a cold blooded killer, a psychopath. He was introduced and characterized like that from the start. To change he would need a MAJOR INCENTIVE and there is absolutely no clues for that right now.
No. You are searching for a meaning that isn't there for Lucci. There is no character arc for Lucci and no clues indicating one for the future, sorry.
No, its still the same. You are searching a character arc in Lucci that doesn't exist. While Kizaru might be facing a moral struggle, there is no equivalence with Lucci who is facing absolutely no moral struggle.
Lucci is a cold blooded killer, a psychopath. He was introduced and characterized like that from the start. To change he would need a MAJOR INCENTIVE and there is absolutely no clues for that right now.
