General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Mr. Reloaded]

What did you even like about Yamato? Her tits?

Either that or the potential of what she could have been had she joined.

But like I said earlier, her character arc never happened. She never displayed a credible role either. Say what you want about Carrot, a look out is at least something.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Either that or the potential of what she could have been had she joined.

But like I said earlier, her character arc never happened. She never displayed a credible role either. Say what you want about Carrot, a look out is at least something.

Her potential is solid, that’s fair. But that potential dropped so quickly which made it so bad

 

[Midhawk]

In general, the entire Wano arch feels cropped, and this despite the fact that this arc can be decently cut, maybe even by half.
Unfortunately, Oda was definitely not working on the things he should have

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Her potential is solid, that’s fair. But that potential dropped so quickly which made it so bad

Was really hoping the Oden gimmick would get dropped towards the end and that never happened. Huge squandered potential.

 

[Midhawk]

For example, we could get an arch about Zoro, just like WSI was Sanji's arch, although this arch was not very good. But we got nothing. And this despite the fact that I don't like Zoro as a character. There is almost no hope, but at least Elfbaf will be arc of Usopp

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

at least Elfbaf will be arc of Usop

Keep dreaming

 

[Midhawk]

Keep dreaming

There is still hope. But it is not enough

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

There is still hope. But it is not enough

Abandon all hope.

 

[Sigran101]

It was never her dream this was the dream of Oden. Yamato's goal was to be completely free like Oden.


Carrot has a great narrative potential, that's why.


Sources ?

She clearly had two.

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

She clearly had two.

And Zoro had the goal to visit Ryuma's grave.

 

[Logiko]

just like WSI was Sanji's arch, although this arch was not very good

What are you talking about? It was amazing.

Oda was definitely not working on the things he should hav

He wasn't working for fan service and that was a good thing.

For example, we could get an arch about Zoro

That's completely missunderstanding Wano. Wano was about the Kozuki and the climax of their journey, never Zoro. Having an arc about Zoro would be just a fan-service choice not a good narrative one.

The reason Sanji had an arc is because his character evolution fitted the milking of Whole cake island and so completely enhanced it.

but at least Elfbaf will be arc of Usopp

Unlikely. Elbaf seems to concentrate on lore and Usopp had multiple arc concentrated on his character evolution (more than a lot of strawhats in fact)

She clearly had two.

All the goals of Yamato were related to her desire to be free like Oden.

 

[Midhawk]

Unlikely. Elbaf seems to concentrate on lore and Usopp had multiple arc concentrated on his character evolution (more than a lot of strawhats in fact)

You're kidding, but he's practically an extra along with the rest of the Straw Hats except Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Usopp had moments, but it's hard to call them "character development."

What are you talking about? It was amazing.

Well, to be honest, I like this arch, or rather the story with Sanji, but many people don't like it. At least the arch is better than Vano, though only a little bit

 

[Eagle]

@CarrotForNakama what's up bro? Are u still hopefull that Carrot will join???

 

[Bisoromi Bear]

That's completely missunderstanding Wano. Wano was about the Kozuki and the climax of their journey, never Zoro. Having an arc about Zoro would be just a fan-service choice not a good narrative one.

Hard disagree

 

[Logiko]

You're kidding, but he's practically an extra along with the rest of the Straw Hats except Luffy, Zoro and Sanji. Usopp had moments, but it's hard to call them "character development."

- An entire arc on east blue concentrated on him
- Multiple fight concentrated on his character evolution, more than most strawhats
- An entire character arc from beginning to end in Water Seven/Enies Lobby

I'm sorry if those feels shallow for you (they are not) but those are character arc and therefore character developments.

but many people don't like it.

Most people in the fanbase didn't understand the point on the arc.

I recommend this excellent video to really understand why whole cake was so amazing: (and this video forget a lot of things narratively)

(I know that there is another good video from another one, but I can't find it)

Hard disagree

The character of Zoro revolves around the value of honor while Wano revolve around the themes of revenge and parent/child relationship. Zoro had his moment but it was not his place to act, he was not concerned.

 

[Peroroncino]

What's laughable is saying usopp is only a million times better than walmart oden.

 

[Logiko]

What's laughable is saying usopp is only a million times better than walmart oden.

Humanly, Usopp is better.

 

[AkainuTheGrimReaper]

where option for no one actually join the crew ?
I think no one join the luffy crew after jinbe.

 

[Midhawk]

where option for no one actually join the crew ?
I think no one join the luffy crew after jinbe.

I also think so, but the Caribou and Vegapunk options are very funny

 

[Logiko]

@CarrotForNakama what's up bro? Are u still hopefull that Carrot will join???

No I think it's done. There is still a 1% chance that Oda brings her back to make her have that character arc but I doubt it.
It's okay, it was a fun ride.