General & Others Next Straw Hat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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- Tags #c4ng2g carrot fans are still losers carrot haters are real losers seethe at the rabbit carrot is doing nothing because she doesn't matter carrot will never join the straw hats carrot's story never even began cry about carrot everyone else in the verse neg diffs the bunny imagine thinking stussy won't join its over furry bros keep the bunny on zou nobody else needs her let it go furry bros momo is breeding yamato no character is less relevant than carrot oden larper fans can't read stussy > carrot & yamato stussy supremacy who will be the next nakama of the week? yamato always had a better chance than carrot yamato story is over
I do give you credit for some good points and I have nothing to argue against.
But did we see any main crew having ship of such size before? Not talking about Giants pirates for obvious reasons and Oars Junior as he wasn't part of main crew?
We still discuss Z vs S or Yonkou vs admiral or doffy vs xyz yc so having discussion on new candidate shouldn't be that surprising
But did we see any main crew having ship of such size before? Not talking about Giants pirates for obvious reasons and Oars Junior as he wasn't part of main crew?
We still discuss Z vs S or Yonkou vs admiral or doffy vs xyz yc so having discussion on new candidate shouldn't be that surprising
Nah those debates have contradictions and vagueness in the series fueling them. Nakama posts are far more braindead and desperate, and I put them close to the level of shipping warriors. Its crazy how some people are wrong 3 times in a row, and rehash the same talking points for a new candidate and act like it means something. Even a child murderer despised by Luffy, Nami, and Chopper was pushed as a candidate lol
So if Im following correctly, people are assuming Loki's fruit allows him to change size? Because his size was established as a problem for recruitment?
So Harald got his fruit recently before he died or so thing? Because he never bothered to shrink down for decades it seems even in the human world.
So Harald got his fruit recently before he died or so thing? Because he never bothered to shrink down for decades it seems even in the human world.
Harold wants both of his sons to support Elbaf together
And historically the Giant Warrior Pirates have always had 2 leaders
And from what I gather from what you been saying is you believe Loki will join the SH to prove Elbaf that they were wrong about him as he helps other places in the world, rather than clearing the misunderstanding about killing his father, mending the relationship with his brother and working with him to defend and better Elbaf together
Elbaf has already proven that they have the capability to be civil but in doing so they're loosing the ability to defend themselves
Loki staying to help build warriors is more beneficial to the country and to himself
And historically the Giant Warrior Pirates have always had 2 leaders
And from what I gather from what you been saying is you believe Loki will join the SH to prove Elbaf that they were wrong about him as he helps other places in the world, rather than clearing the misunderstanding about killing his father, mending the relationship with his brother and working with him to defend and better Elbaf together
Elbaf has already proven that they have the capability to be civil but in doing so they're loosing the ability to defend themselves
Loki staying to help build warriors is more beneficial to the country and to himself
I'm the LAST to jump on nakama bandwagon but I can't completely discard Loki because Luffy did invite him and it wasn't portrayed as a gag.
For Loki reason to join, we know that he dislikes the WG and if he learns Luffy declared war to the WG and punched a CD he might see Luffy as the one that will "change the world".
There's the powerlevel issue but maybe Elbaf/fight against HKs will be a long saga and Loki will officially join after Zoro/Sanji clearly jumped to top tier.
For Loki reason to join, we know that he dislikes the WG and if he learns Luffy declared war to the WG and punched a CD he might see Luffy as the one that will "change the world".
There's the powerlevel issue but maybe Elbaf/fight against HKs will be a long saga and Loki will officially join after Zoro/Sanji clearly jumped to top tier.
Harold wants both of his sons to support Elbaf together
And historically the Giant Warrior Pirates have always had 2 leaders
And from what I gather from what you been saying is you believe Loki will join the SH to prove Elbaf that they were wrong about him as he helps other places in the world, rather than clearing the misunderstanding about killing his father, mending the relationship with his brother and working with him to defend and better Elbaf together
Elbaf has already proven that they have the capability to be civil but in doing so they're loosing the ability to defend themselves
Loki staying to help build warriors is more beneficial to the country and to himself
And historically the Giant Warrior Pirates have always had 2 leaders
And from what I gather from what you been saying is you believe Loki will join the SH to prove Elbaf that they were wrong about him as he helps other places in the world, rather than clearing the misunderstanding about killing his father, mending the relationship with his brother and working with him to defend and better Elbaf together
Elbaf has already proven that they have the capability to be civil but in doing so they're loosing the ability to defend themselves
Loki staying to help build warriors is more beneficial to the country and to himself
Loki's and Hajrudin's relationship is built up as a parallel and will culminate in their reconciliation. Bumbaf needs to learn how to live without major prejudice against undesirable children that leads to inevitable alienation
Sure, other than Moria we haven't, but you have to remember that size in one piece is very inconsistent. Like if size had a consistent standard then Zoro shouldn't be able to use Enma because that blade was as big as Zoro himself when Oden was using it. There are many more egregious examples to this inconsistency when it comes to size. What we've seen from Loki so far is his introduction, the moment when Oda wants to shock us by his SHEER size, but even in few scenes with him, it's super inconsistent if you look at the panels. Right now it might seem like Loki is the biggest thing on the planet, but we have to wait to get his actual size in numbers from SBS or other sources, then we can compare it to Orz or other super big characters. I personally think that a ship by the size of Whitbeard's should be enough, but you can never know. Also, keep in mind that the Marines have ships that can carry Giants, similar to how San Juan Wolf IN HIS REGULAR SIZE WITHOUT HIS DF POWERS can move in ships too, confirmed by Oda I think in SBS. Even Loki with his bigger than an average giant size shouldn't be much bigger than them, I mean his father Harold was a pretty big giant too.
I won't go that far to compare it with shipping warriors - those people are mostly toxic.
Nakama thread may feel like people never learn but actually it's not people's fault - it's oda who deliberately bait readers only to subvert expectations later and this as well he does it deliberately.
No one was really into Loki joining as SH and then suddenly you get Luffy inviting him.
So, if some fans have their expectations raised then I don't blame them at all. They have reasons to do so. And, it's these theories and speculations which keep discussions alive and infuse breathe of fresh air unlike toxic power level arguments or shipping wars.
I really don't buy "He's too strong" or "he's too big" argument.
We often share our perspective - what we feel like should happen but not from character perspective.
From Luffy's perspective or SHs perspective, neither strength nor size matters. Never did.
For Luffy, it's the heart, the bond and the dream which really matters.
Rest of the issues - are all solvable by different means
Nakama thread may feel like people never learn but actually it's not people's fault - it's oda who deliberately bait readers only to subvert expectations later and this as well he does it deliberately.
No one was really into Loki joining as SH and then suddenly you get Luffy inviting him.
So, if some fans have their expectations raised then I don't blame them at all. They have reasons to do so. And, it's these theories and speculations which keep discussions alive and infuse breathe of fresh air unlike toxic power level arguments or shipping wars.
I really don't buy "He's too strong" or "he's too big" argument.
We often share our perspective - what we feel like should happen but not from character perspective.
From Luffy's perspective or SHs perspective, neither strength nor size matters. Never did.
For Luffy, it's the heart, the bond and the dream which really matters.
Rest of the issues - are all solvable by different means
50/50 on Vivi.
Otherwise crews full. Loki bros can cope forever
Otherwise crews full. Loki bros can cope forever
I only became an OP fan around 2021 so I never saw that. That's absolutely mental though 
Funny thing is, even if all these characters became crew members, Oda would barely give them any screentime or fights. Just look at Jinbe for example.
If anything people like Loki and Carrot not becoming crew members gives them a better chance at actually being written well.
Funny thing is, even if all these characters became crew members, Oda would barely give them any screentime or fights. Just look at Jinbe for example.
If anything people like Loki and Carrot not becoming crew members gives them a better chance at actually being written well.