Who will be the next SH?


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you can compare jinbe with loki, loki is potentially as strong as luffy ffs. by the time jinbe joined most agreed Zoro > Jinbe
The first mate role suppose to be close to strength as the captain.

Loki fit the fits the first mate role. Similar strength to luffy.


Which oda never confirmed the role of first mate to anyone. Even sanji and zoro oda did not bend over to the fanboys power level bs.
 
Loki is joining Blackbeard!..
which make no sense in story telling. and looks like you and others head canon of people who can't accept oda writing even when it thrown in their face. when he shows what loki really wants.


Oda already confirming loki just wanted acceptance and friendship.

you think blackbeard treat loki like a real friend, or someone to abuse loki. over his power 🤡


Loki needs real family, friends in the strawhat crew.. not someone trying to power level him.

and black beard already got sanjuan wolf, so this loki joins blackbeard is disguine and shows people didn't even read loki story honestly to think he want to be used for power, instead of his deep desire, of being accepted for who he is. and not be lonely.


damn the amount of copium and denial. even ignoring the story shown plot by oda. people still think that lmaaaooooo
 
which make no sense in story telling. and looks like you and others head canon of people who can't accept oda writing even when it thrown in their face. when he shows what loki really wants.


Oda already confirming loki just wanted acceptance and friendship.

you think blackbeard treat loki like a real friend, or someone to abuse loki. over his power 🤡


Loki needs real family, friends in the strawhat crew.. not someone trying to power level him.

and black beard already got sanjuan wolf, so this loki joins blackbeard is disguine and shows people didn't even read loki story honestly to think he want to be used for power, instead of his deep desire, of being accepted for who he is. and not be lonely.


damn the amount of copium and denial. even ignoring the story shown plot by oda. people still think that lmaaaooooo
I don't know if you're the one who should talk about copium..

Why can't Loki go to the darkside.. The story you made in your mind won't allow it?..

We already have a trickster on the crew..

You talk about Sanjuan Wolf, but no matter how big the Sunny is upgraded, Loki ain't fitting on the Ship, no way..

You're in lalaland like them Rabbit fans..
 
I know this is old stuff, but it’s good that Vivi met some of the Grand Fleet members, just in case she becomes a whole crewmate. Why doesn’t Nami, Chopper, Brook, and Sanji know about them?

Thinking it’s because now they know Barto is defeated by Shanks in the newspaper.

While Caesar was carrying along with the curly-hats, that may be a hint that Caesar would become a crew mate, since Luffy trusted Sanji with a powerful Logia fighter, and Caesar never attacked.

Sanji trusted that Luffy pay no attention to the wanted-alive on his bounty poster.

That’s why there was a conflict on WCI because Luffy went and kind of embarrassed Sanji in front of Nami by picking him up, because he’s weak for being wanted alive.

That is more powerful than whatever is happening with other candidates.
 
I don't know if you're the one who should talk about copium..

Why can't Loki go to the darkside.. The story you made in your mind won't allow it?..

We already have a trickster on the crew..

You talk about Sanjuan Wolf, but no matter how big the Sunny is upgraded, Loki ain't fitting on the Ship, no way..

You're in lalaland like them Rabbit fans..
ok so you admit not reading or paying attention to loki flashback.


:seriously:
 
I feel like the Loki and Yamato comparisons are alittle disingenuous. Luffy never really had an interest in Yamato as a candidate, outside of acknowledging they weren't a threat upon first meeting. Even after finding out about their connections to Ace didn't change things. Luffy offered a spot out of a token of gratitude , instead of desire like he did with Loki. That's important. With that said.

Yamato herself had an interest in joining the crew. Both of their female crew members imposed their own will on them. So that always made Yamato a wild card viable option. But not reliable one. Their dream was never established, only implied and whatever backstory aka flashback that was supposed to develop her as a character had more lore implications for the Kozuki Clan, Kaido and to a lesser extent, Zoro.

How it concerns strength, Loki has yet to do anything that has implied he can out perform, Zoro, Sanji, even Jinbe and Especially Luffy. So what people are really saying is the Bounty discrepancies, but again, I feel a lot of the arguments here aren't being made in good faith. We all know that we've yet to see the fallout from the egghead incident. The Strawhats will be accused of collusion with Vegapunk and possibly be even painted as his killer.


We're in the middle of a full blown flashback centered on Elbaf and Loki is front and center, and he has some traumas boy let me tell you. Harald and Harujidin feel like the Tom and Iceburg in their roles of the flashback, I mean it's all right there. That can't be denied.

The only real concept things for Loki are his size. But two plot development introduced by Oda seemed meticulously added to address this. Franky learning more about Adam Wood on an island also known for Shipbuilding and whatever fruit Loki may or may not have.

If there is a dream to be revealed it is going to be likely revealed through Loki's meeting with Rocks or dialogue with Harald before his assassination.
 
PLease tell me why Loki can't go to the Dark side?..
Because oda already shown loki is good, even his flashback showing loki only outlashed at everyone as a kid. because he was emotionally hurting and also being physical abused by his uncle.

The fact when he was a child he tried to kill himself because he saw the mother protect her child... you honestly think loki is evil after that...smh

even mosa who is kind said loki is kind. while loki denied it not wanting to show weakness due to how he been mistreated his whole life, no one showing him kindness except mosa later on by den den mushi.

yeah he could stopped talking to mosa if she was annoying and kind, because lol loki evil. instead he was concerned for mosa who the only confirmed nice one to him, but she just a voice. and recently vanish where loki got concerned for her.


Oda is not making loki the bad guy, this flashback disproves it.
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
you think blackbeard treat loki like a real friend, or someone to abuse loki. over his power 🤡


Loki needs real family, friends in the strawhat crew.. not someone trying to power level him.
Blackbeard is actually a good man, just very misunderstood. I think Loki would make a great fit for the Blackbeard Pirates.
Kuzan will betray Teach and leave one spot open :Armstrong:

#lokiforBlackbeardPirates
 
Blackbeard is actually a good man, just very misunderstood. I think Loki would make a great fit for the Blackbeard Pirates.
Kuzan will betray Teach and leave one spot open :Armstrong:

#lokiforBlackbeardPirates

Blackbeard already got sanjuan wolf

:DanySquint:

Meanwhile you forgot luffy who asked loki to join


The kid not gonna let loki join no one else except his crew. Even hajrudin giving his blessing to luffy for loki to join, as see him slowly accept letting luffy take loki.


luffy burning his hands to help loki, the excitement and new friendship he has with loki.




:DanySquint:

over Luffy dead body Loki would join anyone else.
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
Blackbeard already got sanjuan wolf
Replaceable :Armstrong:
Meanwhile you forgot luffy who asked loki to join


The kid not gonna let loki join no one else except his crew. Even hajrudin giving his blessing to luffy for loki to join, as see him slowly accept letting luffy take loki.


luffy burning his hands to help loki, the excitement and new friendship he has with loki.




:DanySquint:

over luffy dead body loki would join anyone else.
Nah Teach's way or the highway :Armstrong:

You underestimate my goat Blackbeard. I'd wager his backstory is 1000x more tragic than Loki's. @Reborn can agree Blackbeard is a much bigger victim here.
 
There's also the fact Loki fits the criteria of being an outcast in the island Luffy met them on. Not even Vivi and Yamato.

Zoro, captured Bounty hunter (irony)
Nami, the pirate traitor (To her village)
Ussop, the liar
Sanji, the good for nothing chef (to Zef)
Chopper, the monster
Robin, the survivor on the run
Franky, the pervert troublemaker
Brook, loner
Jinbe, The prisoner (+default outcasts are the fishmen)
Loki, the cursed
 
Because oda already shown loki is good, even his flashback showing loki only outlashed at everyone as a kid. because he was emotionally hurting and also being physical abused by his uncle.

The fact when he was a child he tried to kill himself because he saw the mother protect her child... you honestly think loki is evil after that...smh

even mosa who is kind said loki is kind. while loki denied it not wanting to show weakness due to how he been mistreated his whole life, no one showing him kindness except mosa later on by den den mushi.

yeah he could stopped talking to mosa if she was annoying and kind, because lol loki evil. instead he was concerned for mosa who the only confirmed nice one to him, but she just a voice. and recently vanish where loki got concerned for her.


Oda is not making loki the bad guy, this flashback disproves it.
Being good, or having a good heart deep down doesn't mean you necessarily choose or go towards good, especially if you're constantly hurt by your fate and used to suffer, Loki can still lean toward evil or more specifically, Chaos.. Blackbeard isn't evil per say, he just does what he wants as a true pirate with Greed..

This isn't Chopper or Robin where Luffy can just yell shut up join me or whatever, this dude Loki is a Conqueror.. Loki would need to come to the realization that he's not the Sun God and Luffy is, but then he would also need to change his perspective about the Sun God's role too since he believe it's about bringing the world to an end.. That's only really something that can happen in the final war..

Loki will Join Blackbeard because he's more fitting right now for bringing an end to the world.. And!.. Again he wanted to join Rocks D. Xebec in the first place, father of Marshall D. Teach..

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Also.. Note to all the users in this Thread.. Loki was not uniquely invited by Luffy, there's a pattern of people inviting Loki to join them..

Shamrock - Loki invited to the God Knights(Special invitation)..
Luffy - Loki invited to the Strawhats..

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:kuzanshut:
 
Since when is Oda inconsistent about Luffy's intuition about characters though? Even when we're led to believe Loki is a POS he's treated with respect and interest from Luffy, the escalation to genuine care is when I started to notice where this was going. Then he flat out asks him.
 
Since when is Oda inconsistent about Luffy's intuition about characters though? Even when we're led to believe Loki is a POS he's treated with respect and interest from Luffy, the escalation to genuine care is when I started to notice where this was going. Then he flat out asks him.
Luffy is never wrong about his intuition, he was even asking the other giants if Loki was good. Before he went down to free him. Showing Luffy always 100% has a good judge of character of others. So that 100% confirms Loki is good. Based of Luffy judgement.


Even Luffy mentions more then once he can keep Loki under control. Luffy not bsing around. Hajrudjin will not let Loki out elbaf, unless he goes with Luffy, even Gaban telling Hajrudin to let Loki go with Luffy.


But everyone having reading problems. because there head canon, that character met black beard father so thus Loki must join black beard crew. 🤡

Shanks was the one who captured Loki when he went rampant because of his loney ness/out lashing at everyone. Hajrudin not letting His younger brother out of elbaf unless he goes with luffy. Now Luffy comes showing investment and friendship with Loki. Hajrudin is showing to start to think about Luffy request and now gaben request to free loki. showing Hajrudin come to accept Luffy being the only one to keep Loki under control. which Luffy already doing by giving what Loki always wanted. Friendship and a place to belong.
 
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