Who will be the next SH?


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You're highlighting something with Shanks i forgot to mention. Shanks in essence has become Loki's extra connect to Luffy. Like Ace and Laboon.

As far as crew roles, with Oda confirmed main crewmembers of Roger pirates. I could see Loki being their Tortuer or Tactical Officer like Moon Issac because he loves to fight.

My theory though is Gaban will keep chastising Zoro until he self declares as Vice Captain. The conquer haki exchange between them was interesting. Then Loki can be combatant.
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
Let em be. Cause at the end of the day, it's the same song and dance.

Zoro and Sanji's hierarchy will always overwrite the nakama of the week. If you're too strong for the chicken wings, you ain't getting on this ship :Armstrong:
 

Uncle Van

Monké Don't Do Taxes
Zoro and Sanji will aways be Luffy's top 2; they are his wings. Loki seems to be a full-fledged top tier and portrayed above Old Gaban, making him way more powerful than Sanji. See no reason why Oda will randomly break that dynamic after 25+ years. It would also call for Sanji to get exponentially more powerful in Elbaf.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Let em be. Cause at the end of the day, it's the same song and dance.

Zoro and Sanji's hierarchy will always overwrite the nakama of the week. If you're too strong for the chicken wings, you ain't getting on this ship :Armstrong:
Zoro and Sanji will aways be Luffy's top 2; they are his wings. Loki seems to be a full-fledged top tier and portrayed above Old Gaban, making him way more powerful than Sanji. See no reason why Oda will randomly break that dynamic after 25+ years. It would also call for Sanji to get exponentially more powerful in Elbaf.
Oda has consistently emphasized that Luffy’s wings - Zoro and Sanji, are not just about power, but trust, loyalty, specific roles and bond.

Wings are more about Luffy's core crew balance.

Loki joining the crew will add another dimension to it and won't replace Sanji.

It didn't happen in last 28 years because we never encountered such strong character earlier who got directly invited by Luffy.

Luffy's invitation is different on multiple aspects
  • It had serious tone
  • It was given in the build up stage of an arc - missing with yamao, vivi and carrot. No invitation was extended at all to others.
  • It made Luffy the first person who indirectly conveyed to Loki that his freedom matters to SHs.

Even if Loki is stronger, strength alone doesn’t replace narrative importance or symbolic roles on which crew is based.

Sanji’s growth isn't purely linear anyway.
 
1. vivi is already a strawhat, she will be back to the crew in this final saga
2. yamato will join, but in the epilogue of the story (after the end of the main events like final war and laugh tale)
3. otama will join after the end of the story
 
oda confirmed there only 9 strawhat member he does not count luffy as 10th


so loki is the 10th

and we have no confirmed first mate role, since oda had zoro and sanji role as fighter and cook.
yamato felt like a side character friend like vivi.

she didn't even do the true oden stow away tactic like oden swimming to roger ship as he sailed away.

meanwhile luffy has real excitement for loki only.



Also lol at the 🤡🤡🤡 who think Loki is evil and joins bb
 
@AL sama @Mr. Reloaded @Tyki_Mikk

Just to be clear my bet is Loki joins.


it either he joins or not.



you guys are betting he does not join in elbaf.

:DanySquint:




@Reborn
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Also lol at the 🤡🤡🤡 who think Loki is evil and joins bb
agreed it is beyond dumb lol.

Luffy and Hajrudin and gaben won't allow that ever. Since Hajrudin is part of Luffy grand fleet and friend. Luffy respects him to make sure his family taken care of under his watch in his crew.
 
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Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
@AL sama @Mr. Reloaded @Tyki_Mikk

Just to be clear my bet is Loki joins.


it either he joins or not.



you guys are betting he does not join in elbaf.

:DanySquint:




@Reborn
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agreed it is beyond dumb lol.

Luffy and Hajrudin and gaben won't allow that ever. Since Hajrudin is part of Luffy grand fleet and friend. Luffy respects him to make sure his family taken care of under his watch in his crew.
It was understood that it's about him joining in Elbaph or not.

But worry not - I have already send my men to Japan in case Oda plans to not have Loki join
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
Oda has consistently emphasized that Luffy’s wings - Zoro and Sanji, are not just about power, but trust, loyalty, specific roles and bond.

Wings are more about Luffy's core crew balance.

Loki joining the crew will add another dimension to it and won't replace Sanji.

It didn't happen in last 28 years because we never encountered such strong character earlier who got directly invited by Luffy.

Luffy's invitation is different on multiple aspects
  • It had serious tone
  • It was given in the build up stage of an arc - missing with yamao, vivi and carrot. No invitation was extended at all to others.
  • It made Luffy the first person who indirectly conveyed to Loki that his freedom matters to SHs.

Even if Loki is stronger, strength alone doesn’t replace narrative importance or symbolic roles on which crew is based.

Sanji’s growth isn't purely linear anyway.
Compelling argument :Armstrong:

But when a bazillion people get invites and nothing comes of it, it's impossible to magically this one seriously lol

And nah strength definitely should be a factor here because Loki is probably around Marineford Blackbeard level, should be a red flag.
 

Reborn

Throughout Heaven & Earth,I alone am d Honored One
Compelling argument :Armstrong:

But when a bazillion people get invites and nothing comes of it, it's impossible to magically this one seriously lol

And nah strength definitely should be a factor here because Loki is probably around Marineford Blackbeard level, should be a red flag.
Can you tell me who got the invites (not counting gag ones)?

Kinemon - obvious reasons (never meant to join)
Momo - for obvious reasons (never meant to join)
Vivi - she's half SH
Yamao - well, she said no
O tama - obvious reasons



Anyone else?
 

Mr. Reloaded

Cause a pirate is free
Can you tell me who got the invites (not counting gag ones)?

Kinemon - obvious reasons (never meant to join)
Momo - for obvious reasons (never meant to join)
Vivi - she's half SH
Yamao - well, she said no
O tama - obvious reasons



Anyone else?
Iceberg, Dr. kureha, Crocus

Technically with the first two, you could argue they ultimately led to a nakama regardless tho.
 
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