General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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Its as if he never left, welcome back @CarrotForNakama and welcome to his son, @CarrotNakama
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Its as if he never left, welcome back @CarrotForNakama and welcome to his son, @CarrotNakama
So... How long will it be before the mods get triggered again after being called problematic because of their choice not to regulate sexist and toxic content? Hm ??
After saying this In such a reactionary friendly environment, a """wok""" like me should last one or two hour top.. tic tac tic tac... lmao!
In the meantime, let's have a little fun!
First the L.
I was wrong about the defeat of Kaido. I thought this would be done in 3 chapter but I forgot to take into account the fire and the fact that Oda loves to finish every storylines before the big ending punch.
So logically I was wrong about Carrot having a reaction in the last 3 chapters.
That's said, the hypothesis still stands. Carrot still has a high chance of getting a reaction when kaido is defeated. This reaction would STILL be a confirmation for her future joining for reasons I have already explained on twitter.
If Carrot doesn't react her chances will be reduced to 70% ish. I'll still be convinced but her chances will objectively be lowered.
That's for Carrot's reaction
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Secondly I want to come back to Yamato.
There is a reason I often say that Morj is ONE OF the most professionnal One Piece analyst. His reasonning are based on actual storytelling basis and not just fan hypothesis.
That's why, contrary to what most of you said earlier.. his last video about Yamato was a very good one. Not because it was against Yamato, but because he mentionned something I've been trying to say for years:
All the strawhats have at one time said "no" to Luffy's journey.
The thing is (and that's the reason why you guys tilted on the video) he missed two things:
1 - Brook is not an exception. Brook refused to join Luffy like everyone else.
2 - Morj failed to explain why the fact of refusing to join Luffy was important.
You see, Morj is a good analyser but he is mostly basing his reasonning on instinct rather than actual knowledge. So.. when it comes to explaining the reason behind some concept, he falls a little short. taht's said, his video are still better than 90% of the youtube fanbase.
So.. Concerning the reason behind the refusal of the strawhat to join.. it's pretty simple in fact.
Everything lie in something called the "Monomyth". The Monomyth is a narrative concept theorized by J. Campbell stating the idea that all myth are narrating one single big story. This theory introduced the concept of the "hero journey"
The "hero journey" is not a foundamental rule that applies to every stories. But you can be sure that it applies greatly to One Piece
As you can see, one of the first step of the cycle is the refusal of the call to adventure. This is what Morj was describing in his video.
There is a narrative purpose to this refusal: The goal is transform the character (formely passive) into a active protagonist. So the character must first refuse the call to take the action later by accepting it and taking his first step into his journey.
That's what happen in One Piece for every strawhats. The difference is that Oda is slighly transforming the order of the circle and makes the acceptance of the call, one of the most foundamental cahracter defining moment of the specific strawhat's story.
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All of this to say what ? Well.. that Yamato must first REFUSE the journey before being recruted, it's a narrative NECESSITY. This refusal doesn't have to be a "no", it can take multiple face like what Usopp did on Syrup village, but it HAS to happen.
A future strawhat can perfectly join the crew first and completely refuse the call to adventure later, Usopp and Robin did that..
The thing is... the refusal (in One Piece) implies a strong development for the character. The problem is that it's VERY UNLIKELY for a character to have two strong development in the story and Yamato's strong development is currently ungoing.
And the second and REAL problem here: There is no sign of this potential storyline in Yamato's development, worst, the complete opposite happens. (this is the reason why I say often that Yamato's saying that she will join Luffy is a subversion dialogue)
For those reason, Yamato will most likely not join the crew at all and switch her desire from wanting to join Luffy to Help Wano (the ACTUAL journey she is refusing right now)
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Finally I want to talk about Carrot. I think it's time to make you all understand why Carrot is a narrative abberation and a character that MUST be looked at more closely.
To explain my reasonning I must first setup that basis:
Most of Oda's big storylines (arcs) are written under a very specific and methodic pattern. Each characters are falling under a very specific role. I counted 10 so far:
1 - The savior (Luffy)
2 - The active strawhats (the strawhat active and present during the arc)
3 - The main arc characters (This concern one or two character MAX, those are the character that are a catalysis for the big conflict in the story (hence why they are so few). Those are the character with a big life changing development during the arc, they can be future strawhats:
> (Koby / Zoro / Nami / Sanji / Vivi / Conis / Wiper / Rebecca / Robin / Momonosuke / Law / Kyros / Mocha / Broggy / Dorry / Shiraoshi / Ace / Hiyori / WhiteBeard etc.)
4 - The supporting arc characters (This category regroups the characters that are directely linked to the Main arc character's inner conflict and the ARC theme, they are therefore here to influence the main character arc and the global conflict. Their character arc are still strong but less important and impactfull that the one of the main Arc character.
> (Kaya / Nojiko / Genzo / Kohza / Gan for / Iceberg / Viola / Garp / The 9 red Scabbard AND Yamato / King Neptune etc.)
5 - The ally characters (those are all the character that are allied to the cause of the strawhats during an arc, those character don't have real development)
6 - The main arc character's antagonist. (This category regroups all the antagonist of the "main arc character", those are the character whose values enter in direct conflict with the "main arc characters", not just Luffy)
> (Gin for Sanji / Arlong for Nami / Ryuma for Brook / Spandam for Robin / Crocodile for Vivi / Akainu for Ace / Hody for Shiraoshi / Orochi for Hiyori
7 - The main bad guy (this is the one Luffy has to beat or defeat in order to save the situation)
8 - The main bad guy strong allies (those are the character with strong abilities that are helping the bad guy)
9 - The fodders (all the small character with no importance in the story)
10 - The moral pillars (those are specific character that helps the main arc character fufill their role, they can be supporting arc characters (Kohza / Hiluluk / Belmer / Shanks / Kuina etc..)
You can check. Almost every character are falling under those specific patterns. I said "almost" because there was exceptions:
- For some of the strawhats. (Nami before Arlong Park ; Robin before Water seven ; Franky ; Jinbe)
- Supporting arc characters in flashbacks
- The member of the SH grand fleet in Dressrosa
The reason for those exception is simple: For those character, Oda needed to do something unexpected.
As you can see, Yamato falls perfectely under the supporting arc character category: A strong arc but a supportive one, for the story of Momo, Luffy and the arc in general.
Now comes Carrot...
At first glance you would be tempted to put Carrot in the "supporting arc character" category. ineed, Carrot is an ally, but with a strong development, this would be therefore the most logical place for her...
BUT each supporting arc character are there to amplifie the main arc character's development and/or the theme of the arc as their development are directely linked to it.
Problem: Carrot's development has almost NOTHING to do with Sanji's development or the main theme of Whole cake (minus smal themes here and there) her development and her relationship with Pedro are thus a tangant in the story.
In fact the same can be said about her (small) development during Onigashima. Her fight and it's result has nothing to do with the current state of the story. It's like Oda is adding that out of nowhere.
Carrot is a narrative abberation.
But remember.. Like as said.. such abberation happened in the story before.
And one of the best example of that is Dressrosa. Storylines that appeared completely out of context at first (The obsession of Cavendish and bartho) appeared meaningfull only at the end of the arc.. once was created the strawhat grand fleet.
My point is simple:
Carrot is a narrative aberration. And the only thing that could explain why Carrot was developped like a strawhat without being given the actual status or the same specificities.. is because Carrot is about to have a big development in the future.. and that all her previous development was just a SETUP.
Again.. Carrot will join the crew but will only be officialized later.
Carrot was never trapped at all mentally or physically. Luffy didn't bring her out of the darkness she was in. In fact, she does not have dark past to begin with, worth mentioning or talking about. She just snuck on board on thousand sunny brought short supply food. She experiences tragedy of her losing mentor figure in real time. That we barley no anything about her relationship with him. She Displayed what minks were capable of in whole cake island. In wano she has been push to the background. The resolution for her personal problem and event that surround her character was already dealt with by non straw hat characters. There is no big mystery or any form dialogue for future backstory. If you’re going talk cape thing. Your just pulling shit out of your ass hopes something sticks.
In the official one piece youtube channel your precious bunny girl is not market or even advertise of being exaggerate up as next strawhat.
Carrot's peak of possible being the last strawhats has been long gone. Nobody in the entire fandom among one piece youtube community and even in this forms are talking about her possible ability her joining the crew. Even former carrot4nakma supporter starting to see the writing in the walls.
In the official one piece youtube channel your precious bunny girl is not market or even advertise of being exaggerate up as next strawhat.
Carrot's peak of possible being the last strawhats has been long gone. Nobody in the entire fandom among one piece youtube community and even in this forms are talking about her possible ability her joining the crew. Even former carrot4nakma supporter starting to see the writing in the walls.
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Nika is literally 29 mate.
You can try to deny it all you want doesn’t change the reality.
Don’t really care what Greg said, he’s not Oda.
We have literal proof of Oda unable to deny that theory in SBS & literal proof of it having come to pass.
Also u are one rude mofo.
How old are u seriously?
Word of advice mate, if you’re unable to refute someone’s points might as well just ignore it, plain out saying it’s stupid just makes u look wack & immature 💀
You can try to deny it all you want doesn’t change the reality.
Don’t really care what Greg said, he’s not Oda.
We have literal proof of Oda unable to deny that theory in SBS & literal proof of it having come to pass.
Also u are one rude mofo.
How old are u seriously?
Word of advice mate, if you’re unable to refute someone’s points might as well just ignore it, plain out saying it’s stupid just makes u look wack & immature 💀
Wouldn't that make it a completely different theory though.
Original theory is:
Hito Hito (1 10), Nika Nika (2 9), Yomi Yomi (4 3), Gomu Gomu (5 6) Hana Hana (87)
110 + 29 + 43 + 56 + 87 = 325 (Sa-Ni-Go)
Interesting nonetheless tho ^^.
Not sure of all those numbers but first time I've see this idea.
Original theory is:
Hito Hito (1 10), Nika Nika (2 9), Yomi Yomi (4 3), Gomu Gomu (5 6) Hana Hana (87)
110 + 29 + 43 + 56 + 87 = 325 (Sa-Ni-Go)
Interesting nonetheless tho ^^.
Not sure of all those numbers but first time I've see this idea.
Nika is literally 29 mate.
You can try to deny it all you want doesn’t change the reality.
Don’t really care what Greg said, he’s not Oda.
We have literal proof of Oda unable to deny that theory in SBS & literal proof of it having come to pass.
Also u are one rude mofo.
How old are u seriously?
Word of advice mate, if you’re unable to refute someone’s points might as well just ignore it, plain out saying it’s stupid just makes u look wack & immature 💀
You can try to deny it all you want doesn’t change the reality.
Don’t really care what Greg said, he’s not Oda.
We have literal proof of Oda unable to deny that theory in SBS & literal proof of it having come to pass.
Also u are one rude mofo.
How old are u seriously?
Word of advice mate, if you’re unable to refute someone’s points might as well just ignore it, plain out saying it’s stupid just makes u look wack & immature 💀
Luffy Fruit is Hito Hito no Mi Model Nika = 110
Choppers Fruit is Hito Hito no Mi = 110
Robins Fruit is Hana Hana = 87
Brooks Fruit is Yomi Yomi = 43
The Numbers for the Gorowase come from the first two letters, Luffy is 110.
Your dumb mate if you just ignore shit and Greg actually works for Jump and talks all the time with oda and said the Number theory is dead as soon as it was brought up in SBS
I mean, the theory hinges on it adding up to Sunny Go even though the full name of the ship is Thousand Sunny Go. I don't think it would be that much of a stretch for the actual number part of the name to be covered by another DF. Now if 29 is fulfilled by Luffy, then Yamato could fulfill it by either being the Thousand, or she could just be 0-0 from her model and not affect the math.
Okay I really tried. Talking to you but you sound to me like the automated e-Mails you get when you contact the costumer support. Just repeating the same staff. I don’t feel like I’m talking to a human but to an emotionless machine.
you can not say to everything “wrong” I’ve debunked this and that. That is just your believe.
my point with Yamato and Carrot is simple. Oda is using reverse psychology on you. You think you have analyzed the story so good and you are seeing something no one else is seeing, but you just plain wrong. Fortunately wano is ending soon and then we will see who is right and wrong.
you can not say to everything “wrong” I’ve debunked this and that. That is just your believe.
my point with Yamato and Carrot is simple. Oda is using reverse psychology on you. You think you have analyzed the story so good and you are seeing something no one else is seeing, but you just plain wrong. Fortunately wano is ending soon and then we will see who is right and wrong.
And just like Oden, she will realize that her place is not on the sea, but in Wano. At least that's what the story is hinting
Wrong ^^
Symbolically yes. The phantom island by it's design itself is a closed island. In fact it's very similar to wano in that regard but it's more closed from the inside rather than the outside. Hence why the mink have such a reputation. Carrot wasn't really trapped in reality but symbolicaly.. completely.
Yes he did. But instead of a dark past, it was ignorance. Luffy brought Carrot to a whole new world. She literallly opened her vision of life and the world. Thus putting her out of the dark, just like every strawhats. It's not all about life and death.
Wrong. her personal problem hasn't be resolved yet, but to understand that, you need to read actually more carefully the story and understand Carrot's character arc.
Her present is her backstory. Your are reasonning like a simple fan not an analyst. Carrot don't need a backstory everything usually provided by the backstory was provided already to Carrot from her present storyline.
Wrong, Carrot has multiple figures, that's more than the majority of the character. Even the main ones.
Only for those who don't understand her story
Wrong, we are plenty.
Haven't seen much
No more Dango for you
No more meat for you
Yeah... nah lol greg is just a fan not an analyst.
As you wish.
An extraordinary assertion requires more than ordinary proof. Exceptionnal affirmations requieres exceptionnal proofs. You are giving none and no reasonning so "wrong" is more than enough as a reply.
No. That's the result of a thorough reasonning and knowledge.
That's not how storytelling works. A miss direction must be precise, when a writer say "something will happen" it means that he WANTS you to believe it will, not the contrary.
I have and I'm right :)
The popcorns are ready
End of the day Carrot has 0 chances of being a SH 
Symbolically yes. The phantom island by it's design itself is a closed island. In fact it's very similar to wano in that regard but it's more closed from the inside rather than the outside. Hence why the mink have such a reputation. Carrot wasn't really trapped in reality but symbolicaly.. completely.
Yes he did. But instead of a dark past, it was ignorance. Luffy brought Carrot to a whole new world. She literallly opened her vision of life and the world. Thus putting her out of the dark, just like every strawhats. It's not all about life and death.
Wrong. her personal problem hasn't be resolved yet, but to understand that, you need to read actually more carefully the story and understand Carrot's character arc.
Her present is her backstory. Your are reasonning like a simple fan not an analyst. Carrot don't need a backstory everything usually provided by the backstory was provided already to Carrot from her present storyline.
Wrong, Carrot has multiple figures, that's more than the majority of the character. Even the main ones.
Only for those who don't understand her story
Wrong, we are plenty.
Haven't seen much
No more Dango for you
No more meat for you
Yeah... nah lol greg is just a fan not an analyst.
As you wish.
An extraordinary assertion requires more than ordinary proof. Exceptionnal affirmations requieres exceptionnal proofs. You are giving none and no reasonning so "wrong" is more than enough as a reply.
No. That's the result of a thorough reasonning and knowledge.
That's not how storytelling works. A miss direction must be precise, when a writer say "something will happen" it means that he WANTS you to believe it will, not the contrary.
I have and I'm right :)
The popcorns are ready
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And just like Oden, she will realize that her place is not on the sea, but in Wano. At least that's what the story is hinting
Wrong ^^
Symbolically yes. The phantom island by it's design itself is a closed island. In fact it's very similar to wano in that regard but it's more closed from the inside rather than the outside. Hence why the mink have such a reputation. Carrot wasn't really trapped in reality but symbolicaly.. completely.
Yes he did. But instead of a dark past, it was ignorance. Luffy brought Carrot to a whole new world. She literallly opened her vision of life and the world. Thus putting her out of the dark, just like every strawhats. It's not all about life and death.
Wrong. her personal problem hasn't be resolved yet, but to understand that, you need to read actually more carefully the story and understand Carrot's character arc.
Her present is her backstory. Your are reasonning like a simple fan not an analyst. Carrot don't need a backstory everything usually provided by the backstory was provided already to Carrot from her present storyline.
Wrong, Carrot has multiple figures, that's more than the majority of the character. Even the main ones.
Only for those who don't understand her story
Wrong, we are plenty.
Haven't seen much
No more Dango for you
No more meat for you
Yeah... nah lol greg is just a fan not an analyst.
As you wish.
Exceptionnal affirmations requieres exceptionnal proofs. You are giving none and no reasonning so "wrong" is more than enough as a reply.
No. That's the result of a thorough reasonning and knowledge.
That's not how storytelling works. A miss direction must be precise, when a writer say "something will happen" it means that he WANTS you to believe it will, not the contrary.
I have and I'm right :)
The popcorns are ready
Wrong ^^
Symbolically yes. The phantom island by it's design itself is a closed island. In fact it's very similar to wano in that regard but it's more closed from the inside rather than the outside. Hence why the mink have such a reputation. Carrot wasn't really trapped in reality but symbolicaly.. completely.
Yes he did. But instead of a dark past, it was ignorance. Luffy brought Carrot to a whole new world. She literallly opened her vision of life and the world. Thus putting her out of the dark, just like every strawhats. It's not all about life and death.
Wrong. her personal problem hasn't be resolved yet, but to understand that, you need to read actually more carefully the story and understand Carrot's character arc.
Her present is her backstory. Your are reasonning like a simple fan not an analyst. Carrot don't need a backstory everything usually provided by the backstory was provided already to Carrot from her present storyline.
Wrong, Carrot has multiple figures, that's more than the majority of the character. Even the main ones.
Only for those who don't understand her story
Wrong, we are plenty.
Haven't seen much
No more Dango for you
No more meat for you
Yeah... nah lol greg is just a fan not an analyst.
As you wish.
Exceptionnal affirmations requieres exceptionnal proofs. You are giving none and no reasonning so "wrong" is more than enough as a reply.
No. That's the result of a thorough reasonning and knowledge.
That's not how storytelling works. A miss direction must be precise, when a writer say "something will happen" it means that he WANTS you to believe it will, not the contrary.
I have and I'm right :)
The popcorns are ready
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