General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Devilbat]

I don't ignore Wano, I'm just saying that it doesn't negates what was written in Whole Cake, Carrot is still the same character, still loves the sea, still a look out etc.

Yeah, but she doesn't get main character treatment, and every other SH, including Jinbe, had some highlights in Wano, yes, even Brook who didn't get a proper 1vs1 fight helped out Robin a lot. Carrot reunited with her people. So yeah, it's still possible for her to sneak on Sunny to parallel the dukes, but... she should've had more focus for a future SH imo.

I'm not really defending Carrot, I'm defending the theory that she will join. But in general I like Carrot because she reminds me of the early Luffy.

I overall like Carrot because I enjoy tomboyish characters, and yeah, indeed, she's kinda like Luffy at the beginning of his journey (only suffering from Oda's handling females worse than males which is something you'd often see in shounen). But I enjoy her more as a supporting character, like Camie or Conis, and I'd expect more from her if she is to become a SH.

People are not chill at all with Carrot, just look at this thread.

It's worstgen, people are hating everything and everyone, characters or even users. Yamato gets quite a lot of hate from a handful of people there. I've been accused of being an alt because I said in Sanji's thread that I like Sanji and dislike how Oda handles him post-TS (because damn, I want more of Enies Lobby and Mr.Prince greatness from him, and less nosebleeds, please and thank you).
But while there are a lot of haters, there are also a lot of people who are pretty chill, unless provoked into the trolling mode.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

She lost against Perospero in a 2v1 with his best form (Sulong) but she's beating Devon who will at least be on Perospero's level if not higher alone and with no Sulong most likely?

What do you mean bro? Clearly this is what Carrot's about to do.

 

[ARMeni]

Like, people are already making contrived theories about the Final War being on a full moon so that minks can use Sulong again (when a whole army of the best soldiers were stomped by FUCKING JACK LMAO) because their role in Wano was so disappointing and mostly off-screened both in the rooftop and Inu and Neko's fights.

And then we have people arguing for Carrot to join which will need Oda to write convenient ways to make the next fights also happen in a full moon?

On the other hand you have big titty Oni with a Zoan DF whose hybrid is practically Sulong 2.0 that she can access AT ANY TIME WITHOUT RESTRICTIONS.

GEE, I WONDER WHAT IS EASIER TO FIT INTO THE NEXT BATTLES.

 

[ConquistadoR]

She lost against Perospero in a 2v1 with his best form (Sulong) but she's beating Devon who will at least be on Perospero's level if not higher alone and with no Sulong most likely?

She's going to unlock Conqueror's Haki. Didn't you read about the set-up in WCI? Oda's been masterfully subverting expectations for over 5 years now.

 

[Staticshadic]

Devon



I think she will have to overcome the wickness of the Sulon in one way or another.

Devon Would kill her

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Devon Would kill her

Facts. Devon would literally not have to try either.

 

[Mtusi Ibusisi Mbungulu]

CARROT WILL 1V1 DEVON. DEVON WILL RIP HER IN HALF.
YAMATO WILL AVENGE CARROT BY KILLING DEVON, THEN AKAINU WILL KILL YAMATO

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

CARROT WILL 1V1 DEVON. DEVON WILL RIP HER IN HALF.
YAMATO WILL AVENGE CARROT BY KILLING DEVON, THEN AKAINU WILL KILL YAMATO

Welcome back fellow Two Piece reader

 

[Mtusi Ibusisi Mbungulu]

Welcome back fellow Two Piece reader

What?! Im reading Four Piece of course

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

What?! Im reading Four Piece of course

My apologies :cheers:

 

[IIskandar1997]

Since I feel like we are nearing the end of the debate I just want to make it clear that my second bet for final nakama, in case Yamato doesnt happen(and Oda is hack), is Vivi, so I'll still get a W if that happens

 

[Ravagerblade]

Carrot's best achievement is being a footnote to Katakuri.

 

[Logiko]

How does Carrot 1v1 an enemy who's probably about his level when she got wipped in a 2v1?

Stop underestimating Carrot mate.

She lost against Perospero in a 2v1 with his best form

Wrong she lost because of bad luck

Yeah, but she doesn't get main character treatment, and every other SH, including Jinbe, had some highlights in Wano, yes, even Brook who didn't get a proper 1vs1 fight helped out Robin a lot. Carrot reunited with her people. So yeah, it's still possible for her to sneak on Sunny to parallel the dukes, but... she should've had more focus for a future SH imo.

That will happen after Wano

But I enjoy her more as a supporting character, like Camie or Conis, and I'd expect more from her if she is to become a SH

THe theory state that Carrot will become a strawhat AFTER joining, the character arc will come later

It's worstgen, people are hating everything and everyone, characters or even users

I have faced the hatred for Carrot for years now, it's not only worstgen, it's far more than just that.

I WONDER WHAT IS EASIER TO FIT INTO THE NEXT BATTLES

The one where the character struggle

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Stop underestimating Carrot mate.

Her only solid W is against Brulee. What am I underestimating?

 

[Logiko]

Her only solid W is against Brulee. What am I underestimating?

Carrot

 

[Flagandhat]

Stop underestimating Carrot mate.



Wrong she lost because of bad luck



That will happen after Wano



THe theory state that Carrot will become a strawhat AFTER joining, the character arc will come later



I have faced the hatred for Carrot for years now, it's not only worstgen, it's far more than just that.





The one where the character struggle

Right now yamato has chances to join. We are in her arc, not the arc of carrot. She was the friend of Ace, not carrot... I mean, right now we are in the arc of yamato, not in the arc of carrot.

This is the main reason to think that Yamato, Hiyori, Momo, Kinemon or even tama are in a better place than carrot for joining. Because they are in their own arc... I think momo or yamato are two main protagonist and the two with the correct timing for join luffy

Or you believe that carrot will have another arc for her to join ? in elbaf for example or the moon if we go to visit enel ?

Because if you think so, carrot need to travel like a friend again until finally join, and i don´t imagine carrot sneaking in the sunny again.

In other words. Carrot arc was whole cake, now is yamato arc

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Carrot

But how? She didn't do anything, she didn't beat anyone of significance. Daifuku wasn't even scared of her like that. How much potential do you think this kid has?

 

[Logiko]

Or you believe that carrot will have another arc for her to join ? in elbaf for example or the moon if we go to visit enel ?

Yup exactly that. THe character arc (it will be small) will come after.

But how? She didn't do anything, she didn't beat anyone of significance. Daifuku wasn't even scared of her like that. How much potential do you think this kid has?

The same potential as Usopp / Nami / Chopper and Brook and eventually Robin

 

[ARMeni]

You know who else couldn't enact revenge against the killer of a beloved one and in the end needed another strong person to intervene and defeat him, while also bonding with Luffy for the duration of the arc but not joining the crew?

The writing is on the fucking wall

 

[Logiko]

You know who else couldn't enact revenge against the killer of a beloved one and in the end needed another strong person to intervene and defeat him, while also bonding with Luffy for the duration of the arc but not joining the crew?

The writing is on the fucking wall

Rebecca is a main arc character, completely different from Carrot.