1. It's just paralleling. Not necesarilly the same. But design wise she is the rabbit of alice in wonderland
2. Clear enough
3. Yes. That's why she's still around SHs. But with her sticking with SHs for a long time without having important dialogue/thought bubble make her character less interesting and less development to become SHs. People starting to get bored of her character
4. Yes he add some spice too. But the different is carrot watched it on the spot and delivers it in SHs group on ship
5. Pekoms is supposed to sacrifice his life too. Remove carrot from the plot and leave pedro and pekoms on wci make SHs seems like sacrificing them only for their goals (sanji and RP)
6. They could met if there is a toast after the arc. Plus what i really mean is that chopper-carrot, luffy-momo-tama, nami-shinobu
Post automatically merged:
And I forgot to say this, carrot existance is to makes the distribution of the group even
Luffy-nami
Brook-pedro
Chopper-carrot
More or less it's just like my point number 2 (to add a force to the group)
If the only thing that you're comparing her is a rabbit, then yes you'd be correct.
Yeah, I think Pedro fulfilled the power balance pretty well, especially if they get back Sanji and encounter Jinbe.
The point is that you don't know why she's still around. Yes, because she has no narrative presence, she comes off as uninteresting. However the point that was constantly made was that it was very rare that a side character who has traveled this long with the crew who doesn't seem to have any explicit narrative reasons since she has never once served as exposition for the arcs at hand or be a primary reason the Straw Hats segue from island to island or be the main determining factor of where the narrative goals, such as: Vivi, Law, Kinemon/Momonosuke. She's basically a blank slate till the story makes it clear what purpose she served to be where she is because her tribe is fighting a death match with an Emperor of the Sea and she's over here disguising herself as a Beasts Pirate member and following the Straw Hats around. She's a musketeer too, why isn't she fighting up there? The story never justifies her actions and we cling to chapter 877 so much because it probably gave us a slight answer on why her presence was necessary on WCI.
This is what I mean, what spice? You didn't need her for spice when Oda has other characters he can work with. WCI was bloated enough with characters already, she wouldn't need to serve that purpose and that purpose alone.
Pekoms didn't need to be written in that situation. Especially the fact that he has known Pedro far longer and more intimately than Carrot. He could have easily defected without having to sacrifice himself, the story just presented it that way because they needed someone to pull Luffy out of the Mirror World and who best than a pirate from within the crew?
Yeah, they could. But Carrot has never shown interest in being a vassal for Momo. Just that she knows there is a bond the Kazuki Clan and Mink Tribe share. That's literally it.
Also this crew breakdown could have easily been:
Luffy-Nami
Brook-Chopper
Pedro-Pekoms (especially since its the reason Pedro was requested to go)
If the only thing that you're comparing her is a rabbit, then yes you'd be correct.
Yeah, I think Pedro fulfilled the power balance pretty well, especially if they get back Sanji and encounter Jinbe.
The point is that you don't know why she's still around. Yes, because she has no narrative presence, she comes off as uninteresting. However the point that was constantly made was that it was very rare that a side character who has traveled this long with the crew who doesn't seem to have any explicit narrative reasons since she has never once served as exposition for the arcs at hand or be a primary reason the Straw Hats segue from island to island or be the main determining factor of where the narrative goals, such as: Vivi, Law, Kinemon/Momonosuke. She's basically a blank slate till the story makes it clear what purpose she served to be where she is because her tribe is fighting a death match with an Emperor of the Sea and she's over here disguising herself as a Beasts Pirate member and following the Straw Hats around. She's a musketeer too, why isn't she fighting up there? The story never justifies her actions and we cling to chapter 877 so much because it probably gave us a slight answer on why her presence was necessary on WCI.
This is what I mean, what spice? You didn't need her for spice when Oda has other characters he can work with. WCI was bloated enough with characters already, she wouldn't need to serve that purpose and that purpose alone.
Pekoms didn't need to be written in that situation. Especially the fact that he has known Pedro far longer and more intimately than Carrot. He could have easily defected without having to sacrifice himself, the story just presented it that way because they needed someone to pull Luffy out of the Mirror World and who best than a pirate from within the crew?
Yeah, they could. But Carrot has never shown interest in being a vassal for Momo. Just that she knows there is a bond the Kazuki Clan and Mink Tribe share. That's literally it.
Also this crew breakdown could have easily been:
Luffy-Nami
Brook-Chopper
Pedro-Pekoms (especially since its the reason Pedro was requested to go)
Agree on most of it. But pekoms was supposed to be kidnapped by bege from the start because he was guarding sunny (with or without carrot around the situation won't change much in the beginning unless oda did not go with pekoms kidnapping route)
Plus. Naratively didn't nami shinobu and carrot take initiative to slip in from the kinemon and minks to save momo. So that kinemon did not overthinking about momo. As for wanda i dont know why she's not on the top too lol
Carrot plot at the moment is to take a revenge on peros. It's her chance to shows us what she has in her mind
Agree on most of it. But pekoms was supposed to be kidnapped by bege from the start because he was guarding sunny (with or without carrot around the situation won't change much in the beginning unless oda did not go with pekoms kidnapping route)
Plus. Naratively didn't nami shinobu and carrot take initiative to slip in from the kinemon and minks to save momo. So that kinemon did not overthinking about momo. As for wanda i dont know why she's not on the top too lol
Carrot plot at the moment is to take a revenge on peros. It's her chance to shows us what she has in her mind
Agree on most of it. But pekoms was supposed to be kidnapped by bege from the start because he was guarding sunny (with or without carrot around the situation won't change much in the beginning unless oda did not go with pekoms kidnapping route)
Plus. Naratively didn't nami shinobu and carrot take initiative to slip in from the kinemon and minks to save momo. So that kinemon did not overthinking about momo. As for wanda i dont know why she's not on the top too lol
Carrot plot at the moment is to take a revenge on peros. It's her chance to shows us what she has in her mind
Pekoms was their guide into Big Mom's territory and was basically their security clearance into Totland. The narrative made him be kidnapped by Capone so a lot of the events that started in the Seducing Woods would happen. Its also implied that Pudding intentionally led them there to be captured and taking Pekoms out of the picture accomplished that. All he could do was scratch a warning.
Yeah, they did, but it was also a way for Carrot to help out and, once again, separate herself from the Musketeers who were with them. And she and Nami served as bait so that Shinobu could attempt to free Momonosuke.
She is definitely gonna avenge Pedro by fighting Perospero and it's also a chance to see her true combat capabilities against a 700 million beri bounty Pirate, both in base and Sulong. I don't expect her to leave the fight unscathed and maybe even victorious less, but its a good fight to see a character being pushed to the limits. Nice way of showing why she's a capable, yet young Musketeer in the story. But the little narrative about knowing why the Straw Hats are important for ushering the Dawn of the World will need to be discussed at some point for her character to actually progress.
Yamato's clearly an awesome character, no denying that. But it's all going to the benefit of Momo, as I knew it would. Yamato is Momo, Shinobu and Oden's man, not Luffy or the Straw Hat's.
Yamato's clearly an awesome character, no denying that. But it's all going to the benefit of Momo, as I knew it would. Yamato is Momo, Shinobu and Oden's man, not Luffy or the Straw Hat's.
I suspect if she had seen Luffy climbing up Drum Island mountain to save his buddies or what he had to go through to save Ace, that would have moved her as well and would have been enough for her to become devoted to him more directly. Her devotion will definitely shift to Luffy whenever she gets to witnessing his extreme moments of persistence.
She is definitely gonna avenge Pedro by fighting Perospero and it's also a chance to see her true combat capabilities against a 700 million beri bounty Pirate, both in base and Sulong. I don't expect her to leave the fight unscathed and maybe even victorious less, but its a good fight to see a character being pushed to the limits. Nice way of showing why she's a capable, yet young Musketeer in the story. But the little narrative about knowing why the Straw Hats are important for ushering the Dawn of the World will need to be discussed at some point for her character to actually progress.
I suspect if she had seen Luffy climbing up Drum Island mountain to save his buddies or what he had to go through to save Ace, that would have moved her as well and would have been enough for her to become devoted to him more directly. Her devotion will definitely shift to Luffy whenever she gets to witnessing his extreme moments of persistence.
He moves a lot of people through his actions, crewmate or not. Yamato admires Luffy, sure. Even enough to just up and ask to sail on his ship. But it's such shallow, surface-level interaction. Yamato's connection to Momo and Shinobu always had the potential to be a lot deeper and more natural because of their shared, direct connection to Oden. And lo and behold, that's exactly what's happening now.
The whole point of Pedro dying was to highlight the Dawn of the World and invest Carrot in its importance. It's vital enough to die for, and Carrot is destined to understand why Pedro did it for the Straw Hats' sake.
So Yamato will potentially be so moved by Luffy beating up his dad or something that he'll leave behind Momo, the one he's just now swearing to protect with his life, and Shinobu, the one who helped inspire Yamato to become Oden in the first place? Anything's possible, I guess.
So Yamato will be so moved by Luffy beating up his dad or something that he'll leave behind Momo, the one he's just now swearing to protect with his life, and Shinobu, the one who helped inspire Yamato to become Oden in the first place? Anything's possible, I guess.
I guess people like Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Chopper, Franky, and Jinbe didn’t leave anyone they cared about behind so they could join Luffy’s crew and follow their dream with the support of those people
So Yamato will be so moved by Luffy beating up his dad or something that he'll leave behind Momo, the one he's just now swearing to protect with his life, and Shinobu, the one who helped inspire Yamato to become Oden in the first place? Anything's possible, I guess.
The thing is, once this Wano fight is over, Yamato will have to have a new lease on life, We do know she wants to go on a ship, she wants to leave Wano/Onigashima... So for her to put her roots into staying in Wano just sounds out of character either way.
This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
