General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[KenshiraSonata]

Like they need our help to get all worked up...there’s 200+ chapters of pretext to demonstrate why their cause is a futile one, and yet, there are more than 325 pages in this thread by itself

You should agree with one thing, and give a big shout out for that; they made this thread active and that's for sure :)

 

[Formerly Seth]

Carrot will join just because Sunny's crow nest needs someone to man officially.

 

[humanbeing]

Carrot will join the same way Neko and Inu joined the WB and Roger pirates. she will stow away on the Sunny.

 

[MugiwaraMaster]

Law for Straw Hat is honestly one of the stupidest things I’ve heard on this website. Almost as stupid as the claim of Larrot being a powerful and important character Lmao.

This. As if Law will ever abandon his crew.

Sure a majority of them are scrubs, but we seen in Wano that Law values them way more than the very pirates he allied with.

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Like they need our help to get all worked up...there’s 200+ chapters of pretext to demonstrate why their cause is a futile one, and yet, there are more than 325 pages in this thread by itself

The best they can expect would be Carrot affirming her new dream to eat all the grass in Zou and that her eating a grass won't be off-paneled...

I still don't think Law joining is going to happen, but someone mentioned something about it that I think helps one of the arguments. They say he can't join because they already have a doctor, but Law is specifically a surgeon. It's an important distinction. Chopper couldn't have repaired Luffy after the magma fist in marineford, but Law couldn't have cured the ice oni virus. That said,he still has his own crew and keeps saying he won't be Luffy's subordinate, so it doesn't really matter. I just thought it was interesting.

It's clear Law's intentions is purely for an alliance... So yeah, he won't join...

I get where they’re coming from because the dynamic between Smoker and Luffy is pretty fun...but there’s a zero percent chance the one Marine who’s been on the rubber kid’s tail more than any other would EVER become subservient to him, just not in that guy’s character to follow a pirate’s orders. He might become a quasi-ally on a permanent basis, but that’s about it.

It's hard to make Smoker a SH without some BS narrative, unless Oda can pull a Zuko (ATLA) development, but impossible since there's no buildup...

Carrot will join just because Sunny's crow nest needs someone to man officially. Just like Sunny's steering wheel finally get Jinbe.

Name one reason why I should call Yamato a she instead of a he.

Carrot never displayed excellence in that department, she's just very average, Usopp does better...

Because Oda called Yamato as Kaido's daughter in the character list in the volume release...

You should agree with one thing, and give a big shout out for that; they made this thread active and that's for sure :)

Agree... Their daydreams, delusions and hallucinations helped a lot...

Carrot will join the same way Neko and Inu joined the WB and Roger pirates. she will stow away on the Sunny.

Quite repetitive, Robin joined that way... And chances are, Caribou will do that as well if that's the case... Both did sneak into the ship at some point...

 

[Shift]

Wow, this thread got REAL quiet after Carrot got her ass handed to her, huh??

I said for myself that I'll wait and see what Oda does next; she's not done by a long shot, but there's not much point in constantly beating the drum while we're waiting. It was the same for Jinbe for all the in between years he was absent.

I'm just glad you can laugh now, because who knows how long that'll remain the case.

 

[Staticshadic]

I said for myself that I'll wait and see what Oda does next; she's not done by a long shot, but there's not much point in constantly beating the drum while we're waiting. It was the same for Jinbe for all the in between years he was absent.

I'm just glad you can laugh now, because who knows how long that'll remain the case.

Yeah, but with jinbei he had at least story centric arc that was his own. On top that throughout entire series, we had with him he has been more significant as the series goes on. While carrot on other hand does not really have arc that worth mentioning about it or her past completely unknown to us. Yes, she might have role on the crew, losing her mentor figure real time and history with straw hats but one biggest thing that has always been missing for her is there not arc call her own to make her a standalone character. In other words, There really has not been arc that emphasize her importance as character.

 

[vikas]

Name one reason why I should call Yamato a she instead of a he.

Well you are not blind

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Carrot will join the same way Neko and Inu joined the WB and Roger pirates. she will stow away on the Sunny.

We need someone to man up and remove the pests from Sunny.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

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I thought she is going back to zou to eat grass

I honestly hope she does, but I put it in maybe for now because it’s not confirmed yet that she won’t join just looking very likely.

 

[Shift]

Yeah, but with jinbei he had at least story centric arc that was his own. On top that throughout entire series, we had with him he has been more significant as the series goes on. While carrot on other hand does not really have arc that worth mentioning about it or her past completely unknown to us. Yes, she might have role on the crew, losing her mentor figure real time and history with straw hats but one biggest thing that has always been missing for her is there not arc call her own to make her a standalone character. In other words, There really has not been arc that emphasize her importance as character.

The whole point of her arc is that she wasn't originally on a trajectory to importance. Her life course changed because of Pedro's death, and the fact she's still thinking about what he said, even after being beaten, shows there's still room for her to have a revelation. She doesn't need the whole arc to herself to do that.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

The whole point of her arc is that she wasn't originally on a trajectory to importance. Her life course changed because of Pedro's death, and the fact she's still thinking about what he said, even after being beaten, shows there's still room for her to have a revelation. She doesn't need the whole arc to herself to do that.

It’s not just that she needs an arc; she needs Oda to show some sort of importance to have her be a main character on the sunny.

 

[Shift]

It’s not just that she needs an arc; she needs Oda to show some sort of importance to have her be a main character on the sunny.

Which is what happened on WCI and what could be coming soon. That's what I'm waiting to see.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Which is what happened on WCI and what could be coming soon. That's what I'm waiting to see.

We’ll have to see; but I think she’s designed to be that character who went out to see without knowing the dangers it holds (like Luffy wanted to do). I can’t imagine her wanting to go out after Pedro died and got herself and Wanda almost killed by the same man.

 

[Staticshadic]

The whole point of her arc is that she wasn't originally on a trajectory to importance. Her life course changed because of Pedro's death, and the fact she's still thinking about what he said, even after being beaten, shows there's still room for her to have a revelation. She doesn't need the whole arc to herself to do that.

But we still do not know her history between her perdro though. Throughout wano so far, she has been reduced to be background character and has secondary character. Her fight has been completely glossed over. None straw hats are there defended honor in this type of situation. In previous chapter before that Hyogoro got more emphases than carrot did. Yamato has had more screen more devote to her as character as opposed to carrot.

 

[Shift]

We’ll have to see; but I think she’s designed to be that character who went out to see without knowing the dangers it holds (like Luffy wanted to do). I can’t imagine her wanting to go out after Pedro died and got herself and Wanda almost killed by the same man.

Certainly we will see, but I can't imagine her choosing to follow Perospero's advice (Run back to the woods where you belong) over her mentor's (Keep moving onwards).

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But we still do not know her history between her perdro though. Throughout wano so far, she has been reduced to be background character and has secondary character. Her fight has been completely glossed over. None straw hats are there defended honor in this type of situation. In previous chapter before that Hyogoro got more emphases than carrot did. Yamato has had more screen more devote to her as character as opposed to carrot.

He's saving the best for last, that's my opinion.

 

[Jew D. Boy]

I said for myself that I'll wait and see what Oda does next; she's not done by a long shot, but there's not much point in constantly beating the drum while we're waiting. It was the same for Jinbe for all the in between years he was absent.

I'm just glad you can laugh now, because who knows how long that'll remain the case.

It’s gonna remain the case for the rest of the series, bro...I don’t know how to explain this in terms you’ll understand, but Oda wasn’t building anticipation like some of your furry peers think, he just doesn’t give a shit about Carrot and offpaneled her losing for the same reason. He’s not holding her back because she’s crucial to the plot; people who are important in OP get screen time one way or another. Y’all love to compare Jinbe’s recruitment to Carrot’s, but there’s no comparison to be made - Luffy asked Jinbe to join, and the latter showed his strength and worthiness across three arcs before he finally did so. The only thing Carrot has in common with the fishman is that she’s also hung around for three arcs, but her accomplishments therein don’t hold a candle to his. I’m not laughing because I think you’re wrong, but come on, it’s getting a little hard to watch y’all scramble when the answer is slapping you in the face on a regular basis.

 

[Shift]

It’s gonna remain the case for the rest of the series, bro...

Again, it's great you can be so confident. Embrace it.

I don’t know how to explain this in terms you’ll understand,

You're off to a great start, don't worry.

people who are important in OP get screen time one way or another

she’s also hung around for three arcs

I think you connected that point quite well.

I was on board with Jinbe long before Luffy asked him to join, in the arc where dozens of characters were showing off their strength. That wasn't what made him special. Jinbe showed his connection to Luffy when he directly saved his life:

Spoiler

And Luffy showed a connection to Carrot after he saved hers:

Spoiler

And she's as much a part of the group now as Jinbe was all the way back then:

Spoiler

So I have no need to scramble. Oda gave Carrot a reason to get back up and will get back to her in due time, long before Wano ends, much less the rest of the series, and all your preemptive spiking does is make me laugh.

 

[Mochiman]

And she's as much a part of the group now as Jinbe was all the way back then:

This is not entirely true. Carrot only gets along with the SHs who were in WCI, not Zoro, Robin, Usopp or Franky. Characters like Law get along with everyone, even if they are not SH candidates. Carrot reminds me a lot of Camie tbh.

 

[Shift]

This is not entirely true. Carrot only gets along with the SHs who were in WCI, not Zoro, Robin, Usopp or Franky. Characters like Law get along with everyone, even if they are not SH candidates. Carrot reminds me a lot of Camie tbh.

Same as how Jinbe only met some of the Straw Hats at Otohime's grave, and they weren't all there. Both images show them united, back then and now.

 

[Mochiman]

Same as how Jinbe only met some of the Straw Hats at Otohime's grave, and they weren't all there. Both images show them united, back then and now.

Jinbe fought alongside all of them. Carrot is fighting alone. Besides, Jinbe already had a strong bond with Luffy, much stronger than Carrot. There are many characters that have a stronger bond than Carrot with Luffy and they are not SH:

- Vivi
- Law
- Mr 2
- Sabo
- Hancock