General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet
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Speaking of which, depending on how much Oden wrote down, I imagine that in any case Yamato would want to accomplish anything Oden tried to, but couldn't, possibly tying into any post-Wano border opening dream. Oden himself not only mentioned Wano waiting for Joy Boy's return, but also the rest of the world, also possibly tying into what Yamato knows about regarding the Dawn of the World, which Momo was said to be at least one relevant figure to.
What are u even arguing here ^^". You were the one who brought up the alphabet theory lol
Then u proceed to dig urself into another hole with the Robin/Luffy argument
I don't really enjoy picking on people so I won't take u up on that 🙏🏿
Then u proceed to dig urself into another hole with the Robin/Luffy argument
I don't really enjoy picking on people so I won't take u up on that 🙏🏿
and yet you can’t even give evidence if Oden’s journal indeed, contained any bit of information about One Piece. Everybody who has been thinking like you do should ask: “Why would Oden put info as important as One Piece in a journal? Why not in any of indestructible Poneglyph stele? What’s the point of Poneglyphs Robin found all these times if Oden wrote everything about it in his journal?” And instead of trying to think that way, all you did were twisting words and incoherent blabbers.
You know what I'm not even surprised 
but don't flatter urself, you can't even bring up coherent points much less win an argument
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but don't flatter urself, you can't even bring up coherent points much less win an argument.
Also, keep coping. I’ll just watch again until you can give clear evidences if Oden’s journal contains any bit of info about One Piece (which I doubt you will find any, besides your speculations); and dumber as this thread sounds because of Carrot fans, it’ll be much more fun to watch & this thread is more alive than usual.
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Oh by the way, with the Government fleet approaching, I think this confirms Wano in 5 act. So there might be a new chance for Carrot to shine hehehe
There's no single hint that there would be tons of grass for Carrot to eat so there's nothing to confirm...
To be fair, Paulie has been more useful than Carrot...
Not really... If Carrot will do that, it will also assure Caribou doing the same...
Not to mention that there is only one time where Yamato was "set up" to stay and protect Wano
..And it was done by the villain
his logic goes like:
Carrot: I wanna go to the sea! The sea is a wonderland! (Just once)
His logic: that’s it! Carrot will join the Straw Hats specifically!
Yamato: I wanna leave Wano to the sea with Luffy! I want to get stronger! (More than 3 times)
Also his logic: no! Yamato is going to stay! She says that to divert the plot!
talk about the obvious double standard.
Carrot: I wanna go to the sea! The sea is a wonderland! (Just once)
His logic: that’s it! Carrot will join the Straw Hats specifically!
Yamato: I wanna leave Wano to the sea with Luffy! I want to get stronger! (More than 3 times)
Also his logic: no! Yamato is going to stay! She says that to divert the plot!
talk about the obvious double standard.
She's just on par with Caribou (their best chance of joining is together via sneaking, other than that their argument is frail)... Law still have the edge (his captaincy of a crew and being Luffy's equal are the only argument against him)...
Even Shanks and Buggy have no idea, they only know about it's relevance in the world of piracy...
They'll stay at Wano under Tama in order to strengthen Wano's military force...
Ulti and P1 are most likely to... I hope they join HP...
Shoutout to @CarrotForNakama and @PuckTheGreat for making this thread a whole lot more fun. It used to just be Dizzy here on the Carrot side, and he simply ignored any argument that actually refuted his points which made it really unenjoyable to debate with him. You guys are much better to discuss with and much less obnoxious. I hope you stick around.
I see a lot of people saying Yamato can’t be a nakama because of the journal. But there is a huge difference between finding out now and finding out from Rayleigh.
If Rayleigh told them everything how to get there, what it is, etc. it wouldn’t have been an adventure for Luffy. But now Luffy had to save Momo, kinemon etc, he had to go steal a road PG from big mom, his crew saved the Minks and he got info there too. But didn’t mind. He will defeat kaido and save wano. If he gets some info from the journal it doesn’t matter. Cuz now he earned it and went through an adventure for it.
We already now that at the end of wano a lot of info will be revealed related to the Void Century and that is definitely from the journal. But it’s not gonna be everything.
So that is no reason why Yamato can’t join. Frankly speaking everybody can join it’s just a matter of who is it gonna be. Yamato is the safest bet according to me and the character that fits best.
If Rayleigh told them everything how to get there, what it is, etc. it wouldn’t have been an adventure for Luffy. But now Luffy had to save Momo, kinemon etc, he had to go steal a road PG from big mom, his crew saved the Minks and he got info there too. But didn’t mind. He will defeat kaido and save wano. If he gets some info from the journal it doesn’t matter. Cuz now he earned it and went through an adventure for it.
We already now that at the end of wano a lot of info will be revealed related to the Void Century and that is definitely from the journal. But it’s not gonna be everything.
So that is no reason why Yamato can’t join. Frankly speaking everybody can join it’s just a matter of who is it gonna be. Yamato is the safest bet according to me and the character that fits best.
I agree that argument doesn't make any sense. Luffy needs to find this stuff on his own. That said, the idea that Oden's journal contains the location of raftel or the secret of the void century is 100% head cannon. No one has told us what is in the journal yet. As such, the argument that Yamato knows too much does not need to be "debunked".
I always wanted 13 Strawhats 4 for each sea but Oda probably not going to do that then i think about Luffys 10 crew promise and the fact that Shanks and Blackbeard has 10 crewmates tells me that next Strawhat is gonna be the last.
Makes sense that after Wano we are entering the endgame. So lets look at candidates i will only look at the top 3 because others are bad
candidates.
1-Yamato: She is the most obvious candidate so far and she will probably join. Her relevance in the arc and her relationship with Kaido also suggest that Yamato is my top choice and i cant Wait to see her in the crew.
2-Carrot: She is another popular candidate and for sometime i thought it would be cool if she was a lookout for Strawhats but apparently Oda isnt thinking the same because she is a background character now.
I said maybe Oda gives her a story with Perospero but no Oda just offscrened her.
I dont think she is joining at least not Oda treats her like a background character.
3-Vivi: Maybe when you guys didnt think Vivi as a candidate, well there is no other good candidate and some people still believe she will join so lets talk about her.
As much as i like Vivi and i do think she will meet Strawhats i dont think she will join the crew. Vivis story with Strawhats ended in Alabasta and she has no purpose in the crew.
Oda already gave her honorary spot thats what Vivi will get most at least this is what i am thinking.
Makes sense that after Wano we are entering the endgame. So lets look at candidates i will only look at the top 3 because others are bad
candidates.
1-Yamato: She is the most obvious candidate so far and she will probably join. Her relevance in the arc and her relationship with Kaido also suggest that Yamato is my top choice and i cant Wait to see her in the crew.
2-Carrot: She is another popular candidate and for sometime i thought it would be cool if she was a lookout for Strawhats but apparently Oda isnt thinking the same because she is a background character now.
I said maybe Oda gives her a story with Perospero but no Oda just offscrened her.
I dont think she is joining at least not Oda treats her like a background character.
3-Vivi: Maybe when you guys didnt think Vivi as a candidate, well there is no other good candidate and some people still believe she will join so lets talk about her.
As much as i like Vivi and i do think she will meet Strawhats i dont think she will join the crew. Vivis story with Strawhats ended in Alabasta and she has no purpose in the crew.
Oda already gave her honorary spot thats what Vivi will get most at least this is what i am thinking.
Again Luffy won’t get all the answers. Cuz they are not in the journal. I can guarantee you that. Every person who has found out the truth together with Gol D Roger is very secretive about it. Crocus told the strawhats that the last island is load star. Because they had to find out themselves. Rayleigh didn’t tell them anything either and they haven’t told anyone. Oden didn’t tell his retainers anything either. Kinemon knows nothing, non of the 9 scabbards do. Gol d Roger told whitebeard something, not everything. As far as we know he only told him about someone he is waiting for who is gonna do something. That’s why whitebeard said to teach: it’s not you gold Roger was waiting for.
But you think oden wrote everything in his journal?
Let’s be serious. We will find somethings out maybe even the location of the 4 RPG but and what it is that Joyboy and Luffy said. What is that ridiculous dream of theirs. But everything will be revealed only on laugh tale.
But you think oden wrote everything in his journal?
Let’s be serious. We will find somethings out maybe even the location of the 4 RPG but and what it is that Joyboy and Luffy said. What is that ridiculous dream of theirs. But everything will be revealed only on laugh tale.
I really want the idea of 13 shs, and there'll be 4 sh in nw. However, I think with only few arcs left in the series, I think if therell be new strawhats, they should be present at least in wano, or someone from the past who befriended the sh.
The only people I can think of are:
Yamato - for one, she mentioned she wanted to sail with luffy, she intended to do it and has really great relevance in the arc same how the sh was during their recruitment arcs.
Carrot - dont really see her joining but for the sake of the "possibility" she should be considered. Although, shes completely irrelevant at this point of the arc.
Law - has been with the crew ever since punk hazard, hes been with the crew for the majority of the nw. He has the quirks and somehow bonded with the sh already. He wanted to know the meaning of D which could be a very good point why he'll join. The only problem is his crew, although i dont think bepo and co will object to law's decisions if ever, I mean, theyve been together and they would want law to discover his true self
That's it for those who are currently present in the arc. As for those who arent in the arc. They have to have a deep connection with sh and i can only think of two.
Vivi - because shes an honorary strawhat and obviously wg's target.
Bon clay - do i have any explaining need to do? Arabasta? Impel down?
The only people I can think of are:
Yamato - for one, she mentioned she wanted to sail with luffy, she intended to do it and has really great relevance in the arc same how the sh was during their recruitment arcs.
Carrot - dont really see her joining but for the sake of the "possibility" she should be considered. Although, shes completely irrelevant at this point of the arc.
Law - has been with the crew ever since punk hazard, hes been with the crew for the majority of the nw. He has the quirks and somehow bonded with the sh already. He wanted to know the meaning of D which could be a very good point why he'll join. The only problem is his crew, although i dont think bepo and co will object to law's decisions if ever, I mean, theyve been together and they would want law to discover his true self
That's it for those who are currently present in the arc. As for those who arent in the arc. They have to have a deep connection with sh and i can only think of two.
Vivi - because shes an honorary strawhat and obviously wg's target.
Bon clay - do i have any explaining need to do? Arabasta? Impel down?
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Tbf they were not really 'friends', the beast pirates' dynamics are hardly built on real friendship. Brainwashing is still disturbing and the way Tama treats them, especially speed, seems humane and nice at the first glance only. Actually it's Tama being a huge cynic.
Step1: brainwash the enemy into obeying your orders
Step2: treat them like your assets without regard for their right to have a free will
The more you think of it the more horrifying it looks
Step1: brainwash the enemy into obeying your orders
Step2: treat them like your assets without regard for their right to have a free will
The more you think of it the more horrifying it looks
I agree... Even darker than Doffy's first Dressrosa Birdcage (Dold III puppeted by Doffy into killing citizens)...
But at least Oda's staying true to one of the lowkey theme of this saga as mentioned by Robin in PH and Apoo in Wano: alliance often ends up in betrayal... Tama's ability is just one way of demonstrating the "forced" way of it the Oda way...
But at least Oda's staying true to one of the lowkey theme of this saga as mentioned by Robin in PH and Apoo in Wano: alliance often ends up in betrayal... Tama's ability is just one way of demonstrating the "forced" way of it the Oda way...
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