General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Sigran101]

It has to be what they are called in the crew like QR is Robin not Nico Robin ST is Sanji not Vinsmoke Sanji Etc. So Law has a very slim chance. Yamato is still possible if they call them with other name like Franky (Cutty Flam) for example.

I don't think this is a defined enough theory theory that you can make rules like that. That's just how it's happened so far. I think Law fitting as WX is a lot more reasonable than Wapol, Xebec, or Wadatsumi, which is what was being suggested.

 

[Garp the Fist]

The difference being that it was never specified that a human can't learn it.

Electro is an inherent ability they have. It's not something learned, they possess it at birth.

It hasn't been specified that Chopper can't learn Electro either. All we know is Randolph didn't have it so it was clear to Carrot that he wasn't a Mink. Minks have it at birth- that doesn't mean someone like Chopper, who is a genius, couldn't work out a way to get it as well.

Again, Blackbeard. Up until Marineford we had been told pointblank that nobody could have two Devil Fruits without dying. Then lo and behold, the rule was broken.

Compared to that Chopper, with all his links to the Minks (Carrot his "little sister", a Mink being the only person he's been shown attracted to, "an island full of Choppers!") getting Electro? Wouldn't be a massive surprise at all.

 

[Visa]

It hasn't been specified that Chopper can't learn Electro either. All we know is Randolph didn't have it so it was clear to Carrot that he wasn't a Mink. Minks have it at birth- that doesn't mean someone like Chopper, who is a genius, couldn't work out a way to get it as well.

Again, Blackbeard. Up until Marineford we had been told pointblank that nobody could have two Devil Fruits without dying. Then lo and behold, the rule was broken.

Compared to that Chopper, with all his links to the Minks (Carrot his "little sister", a Mink being the only person he's been shown attracted to, "an island full of Choppers!") getting Electro? Wouldn't be a massive surprise at all.

Blackbeard has been stated to have a weird physiology that no known human can do to possess 2 Devil Fruits. You can't learn Electro because its an inherent ability the Minks have. It's not learned, you have it. The best Chopper could do is mimic or replicate what Electro does, but he can't actually have Electro.

 

[Sigran101]

Blackbeard has been stated to have a weird physiology that no known human can do to possess 2 Devil Fruits. You can't learn Electro because its an inherent ability the Minks have. It's not learned, you have it. The best Chopper could do is mimic or replicate what Electro does, but he can't actually have Electro.

Honestly I still think it's a special ability of his devil fruit. That's why it had to be that specific one.

 

[Visa]

Honestly I still think it's a special ability of his devil fruit. That's why it had to be that specific one.

That might also be the case. However, the whole thing about Blackbeard never sleeping thing is still kinda weird.

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The idiot rabbit facing Linlin and Prometheus.

Chopper facing Linlin and Prometheus.

A rescue mission potentially being ruined vs. a last ditch effort to ward off Big Mom.

Besides, Jinbe has shown that Prometheus can only be harmed with water. So it would be pointless regardless.

 

[Kafkananta]

This :
AB Brook
CD Chopper
EF Franky
GH
IJ Jimbei
KL Luffy
MN Nami
OP
QR Robin
ST Sanji
UV Usop
WX
YZ Zoro

Did the pattern crumbled down once we know Luffy's name is Luffy with an R not an L in Japanese since Japan didn't have L alphabet? Please enlighten me. (It's weird I wrote Luffy by R but it did not appear)

 

[garciajulieen]

Did the pattern crumbled down once we know Luffy's name is Luffy with an R not an L in Japanese since Japan didn't have L alphabet? Please enlighten me. (It's weird I wrote Luffy by R but it did not appear)

I don't think so. I think Oda intended to name it 'Luffy' eventho there are no L in Japanese. I believe he intended to make this manga for international reader not just for Japanese reader. A lot of people doesn't believe in this pattern but there are just too much of coincidence if every single person in the crew fit into the alphabet. But again you can believe or not believe is up to you. Me, I choose to believe.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Blackbeard has been stated to have a weird physiology that no known human can do to possess 2 Devil Fruits. You can't learn Electro because its an inherent ability the Minks have. It's not learned, you have it. The best Chopper could do is mimic or replicate what Electro does, but he can't actually have Electro.

We only learned Blackbeard had an odd physiology after the fact. Prior to that there were absolutely no clues that anyone could do what he could do, and we had people in series say it was absolutely impossible.

Just because it's an inherent ability that all Minks have, does not mean that Chopper couldn't develop it. We thought Mantra was exclusive to Skypieans for two hundred odd chapters. We were then proven wrong. We thought Fishman Karate was something only a Fishman could use for seven hundred chapters. We were then proven wrong. We thought that nobody could eat two Devil Fruits for five hundred chapters, we were then proven wrong.

Oda has barely touched on the functions of Electro. Chopper, who is basically a Mink and a genius when it comes to body experimentation- no other character in the series can do what he can with seven DF forms- getting Mink abilities as a powerup? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

And to get back to the topic, would be a death knell for Carrot, who already has so much arguing against her.

 

[Kafkananta]

We only learned Blackbeard had an odd physiology after the fact. Prior to that there were absolutely no clues that anyone could do what he could do, and we had people in series say it was absolutely impossible.

Just because it's an inherent ability that all Minks have, does not mean that Chopper couldn't develop it. We thought Mantra was exclusive to Skypieans for two hundred odd chapters. We were then proven wrong. We thought Fishman Karate was something only a Fishman could use for seven hundred chapters. We were then proven wrong. We thought that nobody could eat two Devil Fruits for five hundred chapters, we were then proven wrong.

Oda has barely touched on the functions of Electro. Chopper, who is basically a Mink and a genius when it comes to body experimentation- no other character in the series can do what he can with seven DF forms- getting Mink abilities as a powerup? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

And to get back to the topic, would be a death knell for Carrot, who already has so much arguing against her.

Wow. Hold on. You can burst out all of your opinion without changing some fact. Can you? Chopper is by far NOT a mink even by Oda standard. He is ordinary animal who eats df. Except if in some point Oda will explain the reason why his nose is blue, I won't say he is mink. It's like you say that Fish and Fishman is the samething. No they are not.

I somewhat can agree he can use electro if he learns it. Fishman Karate and Electro have similar technique that utilize natural element such as water and lightning.

How about Sulong? It will be a stretch. Sulong is like DNA- thingy and Oda haven't explained them deeply. My point is you can throw out all of your headcanon but please don't change any existed fact that will give wrong assumption.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Chopper is by far NOT a mink even by Oda standard.

Luffy literally reacts to the Minks by saying they're all like Chopper. Chopper has formed a familial relationship with a Mink, Carrot. Chopper is shown to be attracted to that reindeer Mink, the only character in the series he's shown attraction to at all.

So yes, Chopper's basically a Mink. All his life he's felt he was some in between monster that was too human to be animal, and too much of an animal to be a human. That was his entire character arc pre-skip, he's an anomaly. So a group of characters who, like Chopper, are a mix of both human and animal? He's closer to them than he is any other race.

Sulong is like DNA- thingy and Oda haven't explained them deeply

Exactly, he's not explained it deeply, and as such has gave no reason why Chopper couldn't learn to utilise it.

Remember, Devil Fruits are also DNA based. And Chopper has already shown he's a genius when it comes to experimenting with DF's, because he's the only Zoan in the series with more than three forms.

My point is you can throw out all of your headcanon but please don't change any fact that will give wrong assumption.

I'm not the one throwing about headcanon as facts here. I'm talking about potential developments, none of which have been contradicted by the manga. And pointing out that even some things we thought as facts have later been proven wrong.

 

[Admiral Kizaru]

Luffy literally reacts to the Minks by saying they're all like Chopper. Chopper has formed a familial relationship with a Mink, Carrot. Chopper is shown to be attracted to that reindeer Mink, the only character in the series he's shown attraction to at all.

So yes, Chopper's basically a Mink. All his life he's felt he was some in between monster that was too human to be animal, and too much of an animal to be a human. That was his entire character arc pre-skip, he's an anomaly. So a group of characters who, like Chopper, are a mix of both human and animal? He's closer to them than he is any other race.
So Choppers like a self made mink in a way you’re saying ?:kizabat:

Exactly, he's not explained it deeply, and as such has gave no reason why Chopper couldn't learn to utilise it.

Remember, Devil Fruits are also DNA based. And Chopper has already shown he's a genius when it comes to experimenting with DF's, because he's the only Zoan in the series with more than three forms.


I'm not the one throwing about headcanon as facts here. I'm talking about potential developments, none of which have been contradicted by the manga. And pointing out that even some things we thought as facts have later been proven wrong.

 

[BangOO🍅]

You might edit your post Kizaru-san. lol

 

[Admiral Kizaru]

You might edit your post Kizaru-san. lol

Look in the quotes, I bolded my statement you nasty pirate :kizabat:

 

[Kafkananta]

Nope

Luffy literally reacts to the Minks by saying they're all like Chopper. Chopper has formed a familial relationship with a Mink, Carrot. Chopper is shown to be attracted to that reindeer Mink, the only character in the series he's shown attraction to at all.

So yes, Chopper's basically a Mink. All his life he's felt he was some in between monster that was too human to be animal, and too much of an animal to be a human. That was his entire character arc pre-skip, he's an anomaly. So a group of characters who, like Chopper, are a mix of both human and animal? He's closer to them than he is any other race.


Exactly, he's not explained it deeply, and as such has gave no reason why Chopper couldn't learn to utilise it.

Remember, Devil Fruits are also DNA based. And Chopper has already shown he's a genius when it comes to experimenting with DF's, because he's the only Zoan in the series with more than three forms.


I'm not the one throwing about headcanon as facts here. I'm talking about potential developments, none of which have been contradicted by the manga. And pointing out that even some things we thought as facts have later been proven wrong.

I said I don't have a problem with headcanon. But to say Chopper is a mink is not right. Luffy said that just because they talk like chopper not to give us a viewer an acknowledgement that Chopper is a mink. It will be different if Nico Robin said that.

There are many differences between him and other mink.
1. Chopper can talk to animals cause basically he is animal. Mink has not shown that abilities yet.
2. Mink is basically humanoid animals. They keep their animals feature but they still have that human arms and legs. Chopper keeps his animal form of arm and leg.
3. Chopper can change fully to the way he is, mink can't. Sulong is not even a skill that change them to animal they represent, it rather changes them to LION???
4. Mink can talk like human without fruit cause they are that species. Chopper without df is ordinary animals.

 

[BangOO🍅]

Look in the quotes, I bolded my statement you nasty pirate :kizabat:

My bad, Kizaru-San.

 

[Kafkananta]

Remember, Devil Fruits are also DNA based. And Chopper has already shown he's a genius when it comes to experimenting with DF's, because he's the only Zoan in the series with more than three forms.

Come on are you coming just for trolls? Devil fruits is DNA based but they are not inherited. Sulong is like inherited capabilites by blood only by Mink so far.

Chopper might can learn but I doubt it will be same sulong we knew. It will be something similar with additional external element such as moonlight splinter/flakes if such a thing existed or a moonstone or anything. NOTED: Chopper's sulong (if Oda decided to give him) won't be natural thing like Mink did instead it will be an artificial one.

 

[Admiral Kizaru]

Nope


I said I don't have a problem with headcanon. But to say Chopper is a mink is not right. Luffy said that just because they talk like chopper not to give us a viewer an acknowledgement that Chopper is a mink. It will be different if Nico Robin said that.

There are many differences between him and other mink.
1. Chopper can talk to animals cause basically he is animal. Mink has not shown that abilities yet.
2. Mink is basically humanoid animals. They keep their animals feature but they still have that human arms and legs. Chopper keeps his animal form of arm and leg.
3. Chopper can change fully to the way he is, mink can't. Sulong is not even a skill that change them to animal they represent, it rather changes them to LION???
4. Mink can talk like human without fruit cause they are that species. Chopper without df is ordinary animals.

The obvious is a DF fruit made Chopper into a mink but does that make general DF users less human then ?:kizabat:

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My bad, Kizaru-San.

Don’t let it happen again pirate:kizabat:

 

[Visa]

We only learned Blackbeard had an odd physiology after the fact. Prior to that there were absolutely no clues that anyone could do what he could do, and we had people in series say it was absolutely impossible.

Just because it's an inherent ability that all Minks have, does not mean that Chopper couldn't develop it. We thought Mantra was exclusive to Skypieans for two hundred odd chapters. We were then proven wrong. We thought Fishman Karate was something only a Fishman could use for seven hundred chapters. We were then proven wrong. We thought that nobody could eat two Devil Fruits for five hundred chapters, we were then proven wrong.

Oda has barely touched on the functions of Electro. Chopper, who is basically a Mink and a genius when it comes to body experimentation- no other character in the series can do what he can with seven DF forms- getting Mink abilities as a powerup? Wouldn't surprise me at all.

And to get back to the topic, would be a death knell for Carrot, who already has so much arguing against her.

It's not about developing it, it's just having it. And doing so, he'd just have to adopt a Mink physiology outside his human-reindeer hybrid. Just saying he's compared to a Mink when Carrot showed the difference between an animal and a Mink is there. Without any possible modifications to his body/ forms, then no he can't just have it.

Also, those Mink abilities would have been nice to see during Whole Cake Island if he was so interested in their abilities or has even implied to be interested in their abilities.

 

[Garp the Fist]

Another example of "Chopper is basically a Mink" that I forgot about, when Luffy first met Pekoms he got excited and was going to invite him onto the crew... then changed his mind because he already had Chopper.

 

[Patryipe]

Another example of "Chopper is basically a Mink" that I forgot about, when Luffy first met Pekoms he got excited and was going to invite him onto the crew... then changed his mind because he already had Chopper.

Not looking good for the talking rabbit