General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[Logiko]

she talking about helping the country not staying just like luffy doing right now and also what oden did do too and Momo is here the shogun of wano yamato is an outsider she isn't from wano but she carried on oden will to open and free the country from her father

Not just "helping" "giving up" on the country. What Oden did was the bad thing to do. What Yamato will need to do, is choose to stay and help the country herself.

 

[Animangaboy]

Not just "helping" "giving up" on the country. What Oden did was the bad thing to do. What Yamato will need to do, is choose to stay and help the country herself.

That's isn't her issue or her work to do momo is the one to clean up the mess his father left for him stop babysitting momo he is now the shogun of wano also states that he will be the shogun of wano, not Yamato momo

 

[Logiko]

That's isn't her issue or her work to do momo is the one to clean up the mess his father left for him stop babysitting momo he is now the shogun of wano also states that he will be the shogun of wano, not Yamato momo

That's the job of both Yaamto and Momo, after all they are constructed in parallels.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

The excuse given by those who don't care about storytelling "One Piece is not that deep"

Let me give you a spoiler: There is no such thing as "deep stories"

Either a story is crafted well enough to deliver what it is Crafted to deliver, or it doesn't and become therefore a bad story.

The difference between a good and a bad story are:

1. The level of craftmanship put in the work behind the storytelling process
2. The amount of the craft that hits the audience as it was intended to

One Piece is not a good story because it's "deep". One Piece is a good story because there is a LOT of work put into the storytelling for one, and secondly, most of the bit are hitting the audiance on a primal emotionnal level.

So.. When I analyse One Piece, i'm not digging "deep". I'm sorting out the puzzle of the craft behind the construction of the story.

As long as you will think that i'm analysing a "deep" story, you will never understand what i'm actually doing.

Are you saying that Oda, the author himself, makes an excuse as he doesn’t care about storytelling of his own creation because he said “One Piece isn’t that deep of a story”?

You can create any concept, deny, cope or whatever you want. What you do to the story don’t matter.

What you say here is exactly where you think you know better than the author himself that you chose to deny him and believe anything you create to fit your purpose.

And I believe what more the author says than an asinine theorist

 

[thedarkdragon11]

Oh? Ok! Go for it! And don't forget that the subject of this discussion is storytelling theory, story crafting and narrative deconstruction.. this should be right in their expertise!

Done... They (the 3 experts) said almost the same thing: You're using the concept in the wrong context and one of them suspected that you don't fully understand what you're talking about... The instructor suggested that you take some classes regarding literature...

Meanwhile, the fan just LOLed and said that you're reading the wrong story if you think Robin is not an archeologist ...

Let me show this thread to oda

I will if I have contacts with him...

 

[Logiko]

Are you saying that Oda, the author himself, makes an excuse as he doesn’t care about storytelling of his own creation because he said “One Piece isn’t that deep of a story”?

You can create any concept, deny, cope or whatever you want. What you do to the story don’t matter.

What you say here is exactly where you think you know better than the author himself that you chose to deny him and believe anything you create to fit your purpose.

And I believe what more the author says than an asinine theorist

Like I said, there is no such things as "deep stories"

So as long as you won't understand that, you won't understand the storytelling theories I'm doing. I'm not "knowing" better than Oda. He made a joke. He even laugh.. Trust me, Oda knows the ammount of work put behind the story. ;)

Disrespect me as long as you want, at the end, you will understand how right I was.

And it will be a day to experience

 

[Animangaboy]

That's the job of both Yaamto and Momo, after all, they are constructed in parallels.

Why the hell that should be Yamato's job. Yamato isn't oden child's momo and Kozuki Hiyori is the offspring of oden Yamato is just someone who inherited oden will and just wants to be free like him. That's why she isn't staying in wano

 

[Logiko]

Done... They (the 3 experts) said almost the same thing: You're using the concept in the wrong context and one of them suspected that you don't fully understand what you're talking about... The instructor suggested that you take some classes regarding literature...

Cute.

Post automatically merged: Mar 5, 2022

Why the hell that should be Yamato's job

Because Yamato is constructed as a protector of the country and all her action until now are heading toward the direction of yamato becoming a protective guide for Momo.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Like I said, there is no such things as "deep stories"

So as long as you won't understand that, you won't understand the storytelling theories I'm doing. I'm not "knowing" better than Oda. He made a joke. He even laugh.. Trust me, Oda knows the ammount of work put behind the story. ;)

Disrespect me as long as you want, at the end, you will understand how right I was.

And it will be a day to experience

And like I said: your opinions don’t matter. Oda himself answered it. I know you’re illiterate but I never knew you’d be this illiterate

He laughed because he didn’t think fans would over analyze his story, like what you’ve been doing all these time. And here you are, exactly showing that you know better than Oda himself

FYI nobody’s disrespecting you. Your whole existence is already a disrespect itself ;)

 

[Animangaboy]

Because Yamato is constructed as a protector of the country and all her action until now are heading toward the direction of yamato becoming a protective guide for Momo.

The what for wano??? So what is luffy doing right now then, is luffy also the protector of wano 2 because he is the one who is actually saving wano right now, and why u forget about kinemon? Who's is the Guidance for momo after oden death who was sent to the future with momo and raise him like a son?

 

[Logiko]

And like I said: your opinions don’t matter. Oda himself answered it. I know you’re illiterate but I never you’d be this illiterate

He laughed because he didn’t think fans would over analyze his story, like what you’ve been doing all these time. And here you are, exactly showing that you know better than Oda himself

FYI nobody’s disrespecting you. Your whole existence is already a disrespect itself ;)

Like I said, Oda is not contradicting me here. There is no such things as "deep" stories.

I know that you think my opinion doesn't matter lol. I heared you the first ten times xD

So what is luffy doing right now then

Luffy is doing the doing what Oden should've done. Yamato and Momo will do the rest.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Done... They (the 3 experts) said almost the same thing: You're using the concept in the wrong context and one of them suspected that you don't fully understand what you're talking about... The instructor suggested that you take some classes regarding literature...

Meanwhile, the fan just LOLed and said that you're reading the wrong story if you think Robin is not an archeologist ...



I will if I have contacts with him...

You don’t think that he will believe them right? He even ignored the author’s statement itself and still believe his self-made concept he created

Post automatically merged: Mar 5, 2022

Like I said, Oda is not contradicting me here. There is no such things as "deep" stories.

I know that you think my opinion doesn't matter lol. I heared you the first ten times xD

Oda, the author himself said so. Are you ignoring what the author said?

If you know your opinions don’t matter then why keep barking?

Man you really are disrespecting yourself

 

[thedarkdragon11]

You don’t think that he will believe them right? He even ignored the author’s statement itself and still believe his self-made concept he created

I pretty much expected that... Carroworld is such a wonderful dose...

 

[Animangaboy]

Luffy is doing the doing what Oden should've done. Yamato and Momo will do the rest.

Momo will be the shogun of wano and yamato isn't from wano also isn't oden child so she can't be an important figure for wano. Oden has 2 children Momosuke and Kozuki Hiyori. Not Kozuki Yamato 😂😭

 

[Logiko]

You don’t think that he will believe them right? He even ignored the author’s statement itself and still believe his self-made concept he created

Why should I trust the opinion of an english language college instructor, an english major, a graduate in literature and a basic fan of One Piece about storytelling theory, storytelling deconstruction and storytelling crafting ?

It would be like trusting the scientific opinion of a medical doctor, a chemist, an archeologist, and a man a love to look at star.. in a discussion about cosmic expension, Dark matter theories and Black Holes.. lol

 

[Rootbeer]

Yes, on the surface, in the subtext, CArrot has her own storyarc. Something that the minks don't have.

She doesn't though.. The only reason she would stowaway again is for fan service so it's not happening..

Already done, sick of repeating myself.

You're crucial to the story when you can't remove someone without changing the narrative drastically..

If Robin didn't save Luffy from the quicksand story ends there.. If Carrot doesn't go Sulong to destroy DaIfuku's fleet with his help, Jinbei can do it alone and faster.. Everything that occured in the Mirror World, Chopper can do it on his own.. Marco can save himself and even then he was not in true danger..

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

I pretty much expected that... Carroworld is such a wonderful dose...

Oda in SBS: One Piece isn’t that deep of a story

C4N: there is no such thing as “deep stories”


I don’t know which one is higher. His ego or his stupidity. Maybe both

 

[Logiko]

Oda, the author himself said so. Are you ignoring what the author said?

If you know your opinions don’t matter then why keep barking?

Man you really are disrespecting yourself

Oda is saying exactly what I'm saying dude.. One Piece is not "deep"

Momo will be the shogun of wano and yamato isn't from wano also isn't oden child so she can't be an important figure for wano. Oden has 2 children Momosuke and Kozuki Hiyori. Not Kozuki Yamato 😂😭

Well... guess who will be surprised

Post automatically merged: Mar 5, 2022

She doesn't though.. The only reason she would stowaway again is for fan service so it's not happening..

There is no reason to continue this discussion with you. The 'fan service" thing was a deal breaker lol

You're crucial to the story when you can't remove someone without changing the narrative drastically..

If Robin didn't save Luffy from the quicksand story ends there.. If Carrot doesn't go Sulong to destroy DaIfuku's fleet with his help, Jinbei can do it alone and faster.. Everything that occured in the Mirror World, Chopper can do it on his own.. Marco can save himself and even then he was not in true danger..

Yes with a lot less efficiancy, permitting Big Mom to arrive sooner on the ship, with - this time - ALL the other part of the fleet following her..

In other words :

Strawhats dead or captured. Game over.

 

[JoSeungHun7335]

Why should I trust the opinion of an english language college instructor, an english major, a graduate in literature and a basic fan of One Piece about storytelling theory, storytelling deconstruction and storytelling crafting ?

It would be like trusting the scientific opinion of a medical doctor, a chemist, an archeologist, and a man a love to look at star.. in a discussion about cosmic expension, Dark matter theories and Black Holes.. lol

Then it’s clear by you’re saying that you know that we shouldn’t trust you, right? You even ignored the author’s statement himself.

Who are you anyway?

N.O.B.O.D.Y.

 

[Staticshadic]

Oda is saying exactly what I'm saying dude.. One Piece is not "deep"




Well... guess who will be surprised

Suprise that your carrot is not joining strawhats your blog, tweets, and replay over carrot were pointless.