General & Others Next Strawhat Crew Members and the Grand Fleet

[thedarkdragon11]

And they were let in

Which makes it easier to attack... Position early troops disguised as neutral guys...

They think Wano is impenetrable because they're incompetent Bureaucrats who are losing their control of the world. Simple as

Headcanon...

A-k-a, an elaborate way of saying "I can't read"

:cheers:

 

[Peenix]

People have been talking about Yamato being connected to the Jinbe toast for years. Don't try to pretend it's some new idea thought up after the last chapter.

And it's always been a blatant attempt by Yamato fans to make everything about their half-written merchbait "character"

Right, which is why she consistently talked about leaving Wano since her debut, had multiple highlights talking about going out to sea, and has yet to be framed as wrong for thinking so in the narrative.

Except that it was mainly treated as a gag from the beginning

And if you look at the actual content of the two chapters, which are meant to be put together for the cover spread as well, Yamato talks about looking forward to Luffy after Ace passed away. The unanswered toast is meant to be finished by him, just like every other Wano plot thread that Ace left over.

Okay so then you're completely ignoring the actual significance of chapter 999's title and are instead projecting your own headcanon onto it to support your agenda?

Unless you can probe the mind of Oda himself, idk why you keep bringing this up. He's the one that wrote Luffy's criteria for accepting members that Yamato is checking off, the crew growing close to her, and her insistence on leaving Wano instead of being some guardian like some people cope her to be.

Luffy also wanted to accept those trees on Thriller Bark. But guess what? The one who decides which characters will join isn't Luffy; it's the guy writing the story

Or I'm saying your standards for a SH is flawed and doesn't apply to numerous members. Zoro had a lackluster flashback, Brook has a borderline pointless role, Robin was nowhere near as close with the crew as Yamato when she joined, etc. Not that your SH criteria matters in this discussion anyway since they don't affect her chances.

1. Zoro's flashback was at the beginning of the series before we had come to expect great flashbacks
2. Brook's role was something Luffy wanted from day one
3. Robin was supposed to feel distant when she joined. That's the entire point of her character arc

To be a Strawhat you actually need to be a decent character and sadly Yamato ain't that

Now you're just moving the goalpost since you made a bad comparison. Franky had no teary reaction to Luffy defeating anyone for him nor did Luffy have him as any kind of motivation.

I mention this in my essay, but Nami and Yamato had very similar circumstances. And yet Yamato isn't being given anywhere near the same amount of attention that was given to Nami in Arlong Park

If Wano's borders can't open until the dawn, wouldn't it make even more sense for her to leave with the person that'll make it happen?

Nah not really

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Holy shit, it's just like the ZKK cope essay

Move over Carrot4Nakama, there's a new number one copium addict

Cope. When Wano ends and the Sunny sails off without a single new member besides Jimbei, you will be seething and coping right along with the Carrot fans

 

[Sigran101]

Even that's debatable because now you have @Carrota Guco

That user is definitely someone's alt though.

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

That user is definitely someone's alt though.

Don't even doubt that.

 

[Sigran101]

@Carrota Guco if you're going to be a fake Carrot fan account to entertain us you should take it as far as @CarrotNakama did. That shit was hilarious.:cheers:

 

[Paperchampion23]

But the problem is that there’s evidence to suggest Oda did not come up with Yamato until halfway through




You’re ignoring my point. Regardless of why Ryokugyu entered Wano, the fact that he did so easily is gonna prove to the Gorosei that it’s not as impenetrable as they thought


And the Gorosei only think that because they don’t know better considering that Ryokugyu just proved them wrong this chapter

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Why Yamato will not join the Strawhats: a 38 page essay
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tcYcEyu9fdjCHzJWstoPqVH3uQUHaHn8/view?usp=drivesdk
I plan to update this to account for chapters 1052 and 1053, but a lot of the points I make still stand

When you write a 38 page essay instead of just reading the picture book properly like everyone else

 

[Monkey D Al]

P

 

[Homelander]

Cope. When Wano ends and the Sunny sails off without a single new member besides Jimbei, you will be seething and coping right along with the Carrot fans

When Wano ends and the Sunny sails off with Yamato as the newest member of the SHs crew, you will realized that you waste your time writing that useless essay. lol

My man, Yamato joining is like Post-Enies Lobby Franky level of obviousness. Totally inevitable at this point.

If you don’t see it, then you’re either in denial or just plain stupid.

PS. I admitted I loled so hard when I read your essay. One of the craziest thing I’ve ever seen in this forum.

Props for your effort though.

 

[jordin]

And it's always been a blatant attempt by Yamato fans to make everything about their half-written merchbait "character"



Except that it was mainly treated as a gag from the beginning



Okay so then you're completely ignoring the actual significance of chapter 999's title and are instead projecting your own headcanon onto it to support your agenda?



Luffy also wanted to accept those trees on Thriller Bark. But guess what? The one who decides which characters will join isn't Luffy; it's the guy writing the story



1. Zoro's flashback was at the beginning of the series before we had come to expect great flashbacks
2. Brook's role was something Luffy wanted from day one
3. Robin was supposed to feel distant when she joined. That's the entire point of her character arc

To be a Strawhat you actually need to be a decent character and sadly Yamato ain't that



I mention this in my essay, but Nami and Yamato had very similar circumstances. And yet Yamato isn't being given anywhere near the same amount of attention that was given to Nami in Arlong Park


Nah not really

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Cope. When Wano ends and the Sunny sails off without a single new member besides Jimbei, you will be seething and coping right along with the Carrot fans

With those 38 pages, I can see why you're this insistent on ignoring the narrative and the words that come out of a character's mouth.

Hopefully, this month break will give you enough time to cycle through the stages of grief and come back with an empty copium tank.

Holy shit, it's just like the ZKK cope essay

It's just as sad and hilarious to read. Even the beast pirate fanfiction at the end was proven wrong this chapter since they've just been dumped at Udon while their "captain" stays glued to the SHs.

 

[Peenix]

With those 38 pages, I can see why you're this insistent on ignoring the narrative and the words that come out of a character's mouth.

Hopefully, this month break will give you enough time to cycle through the stages of grief and come back with an empty copium tank.

My guy, red herrings are one of the most common narrative devices ever. Yamato has so many red flags (such as her lack of a role) that it is objectively more logical to think that she’s a red herring than it is to think she’s joining

It's just as sad and hilarious to read. Even the beast pirate fanfiction at the end was proven wrong this chapter since they've just been dumped at Udon while their "captain" stays glued to the SHs.

Look I myself said I was gonna update it for 1052 and 1053. Ever since Ryokugyu showed up in 1052 it was a lot more reasonable to think that the guardian deity theory would happen and now after Ryokugyu ordered a battleship to come into Wano in 1053 I think it’s probable that Yamato’s meant to be the guardian deity

Could I be wrong? Yes. Do I think I am? No

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When Wano ends and the Sunny sails off with Yamato as the newest member of the SHs crew, you will realized that you waste your time writing that useless essay. lol

My man, Yamato joining is like Post-Enies Lobby Franky level of obviousness. Totally inevitable at this point.

If you don’t see it, then you’re either in denial or just plain stupid.

PS. I admitted I loled so hard when I read your essay. One of the craziest thing I’ve ever seen in this forum.

Props for your effort though.

I mean I enjoy writing and I enjoy talking about One Piece so I just wrote the essay for fun. The alternative was to make a video talking about it which takes waaay more time than writing an essay. To make a video you need to write a script, find some music, need to find enough visuals to take up 8-10 minutes, do a voice over (realistically multiple times until you get it right), and then edit it. With an essay you just write it, find some images and you’re done. Besides it’s only 4.5K words anyway.

You mention Franky, but the thing about Franky is that
1. We got to see him bond with Robin and Usopp (And I mean actually bond. Not some Carrot-tierminor gags)
2. He fought alongside the Strawhats in Enies Lobby and fought a CP9 member 1 on 1
3. Had a flashback that wasn’t 8 pages long
4. Actually had unique abilities and a role
5. Was included in a color spread with the Strawhats
So no I don’t think that’s a good comparison

 

[Jiihad]

You are AT LEAST the seventh mod to come here and dunk on C4N, think I’m starting to understand why the administration keeps letting him come back…

Blood…..I honestly never look into this thread like that. But everytime I do, I see jus insane amounts of madness from C4N. Like creepy lvls of it

 

[Billy D Williams]

My guy, red herrings are one of the most common narrative devices ever. Yamato has so many red flags (such as her lack of a role) that it is objectively more logical to think that she’s a red herring than it is to think she’s joining



Look I myself said I was gonna update it for 1052 and 1053. Ever since Ryokugyu showed up in 1052 it was a lot more reasonable to think that the guardian deity theory would happen and now after Ryokugyu ordered a battleship to come into Wano in 1053 I think it’s probable that Yamato’s meant to be the guardian deity

Could I be wrong? Yes. Do I think I am? No

What would be the point of Yamato being a red herring? Isn’t the point of a red herring to be misleading and distract from the actual subject? Since you don’t believe there’s going to be another nakama what would be the point of creating the expectation of there being another one just to pull it away at the end? That seems unfulfilling.

 

[Peenix]

What would be the point of Yamato being a red herring? Isn’t the point of a red herring to be misleading and distract from the actual subject? Since you don’t believe there’s going to be another nakama what would be the point of creating the expectation of there being another one just to pull it away at the end? That seems unfulfilling.

I’m thinking mainly that it’s going to reflect how Momo and Yamato both carry on different aspects of Oden’s will

 

[Mr. Reloaded]

Blood…..I honestly never look into this thread like that. But everytime I do, I see jus insane amounts of madness from C4N. Like creepy lvls of it

He's surpassed the very definition of copium

 

[Billy D Williams]

What would be the point of Yamato being a red herring? Isn’t the point of a red herring to be misleading and distract from the actual subject? Since you don’t believe there’s going to be another nakama what would be the point of creating the expectation of there being another one just to pull it away at the end? That seems unfulfilling.

I’m thinking mainly that it’s going to reflect how Momo and Yamato both carry on different aspects of Oden’s will

I get the Odens will thing. I believe the reason Oden failed was because he couldn’t be two places at once. He needed to be with Roger and find the one piece while simultaneously needing to be home to protect wano from Orochi. That’s why it makes sense, to me, for Yamato and Momo to split, one at home to protect and one at sea to find the One Piece.

 

[Homelander]

You mention Franky, but the thing about Franky is that
1. We got to see him bond with Robin and Usopp (And I mean actually bond. Not some Carrot-tierminor gags)
2. He fought alongside the Strawhats in Enies Lobby and fought a CP9 member 1 on 1
3. Had a flashback that wasn’t 8 pages long
4. Actually had unique abilities and a role
5. Was included in a color spread with the Strawhats
So no I don’t think that’s a good comparison

1. We saw Yamato bond, a lot, with Luffy. She bonded with him a lot in such a short period of time. Almost like an “in your face” from Oda himself.

2. Yamato fought Kaido 1 on 1, before Luffy arrived for the 3rd 4th 5th round I don’t give af.

3. So having a long, more than 8 pages flashback is a prerequisite of joining the crew now? Could you remind me about Zoro’s and Usopp’s flashbacks, please?

4. Mythical Zoan Oguchi whatever the name that is. Not unique enough?

Who cares about the role anyway? Can’t she just be a “member” of the crew? like Oden in WB crew before he was promoted to 2nd division commander.

5. You will see Yamato in the colorspread after she officially join the crew. No worries.

Franky in that colorspread (SHs vs CP9) at the start of Enies-Lobby war is exactly like the cover of Volume 64 where Jinbe is also posed with the group albeit not joining at the time. So it didn’t confirm shit.

I repeat again, it’s Franky-level of obviousness that she would join. Sucks that you can’t see it. Not your fault though.

I guess.

 

[Jiihad]

He's surpassed the very definition of copium

I’m stuck between C4N being a troll or an actual basement dwelling, whitey tidy wearing criminal

 

[Peenix]

1. We saw Yamato bond, a lot, with Luffy. She bonded with him a lot in such a short period of time. Almost like an “in your face” from Oda himself.

2. Yamato fought Kaido 1 on 1, before Luffy arrived for the 3rd 4th 5th round I don’t give af.

3. So having a long, more than 8 pages flashback is a prerequisite of joining the crew now? Could you remind me about Zoro’s and Usopp’s flashbacks, please?

4. Mythical Zoan Oguchi whatever the name that is. Not unique enough?

Who cares about the role anyway? Can’t she just be a “member” of the crew? like Oden in WB crew before he was promoted to 2nd division commander.

5. You will see Yamato in the colorspread after she officially join the crew. No worries.

Franky in that colorspread (SHs vs CP9) at the start of Enies-Lobby war is exactly like the cover of Volume 64 where Jinbe is also posed with the group albeit not joining at the time. So it didn’t confirm shit.

I repeat again, it’s Franky-level of obviousness that she would join. Sucks that you can’t see it. Not your fault though.

I guess.

1. Reread Wano. You'd be surprised at how little of a bond Luffy and Yamato share. He didn't even mention her here

Spoiler

2. And? She didn't fight alongside the Strawhats at all
3. At this point, pretty much. Zoro and Usopp had their flashbacks early on in the series before long flashbacks became standard
4. So she's able to turn into a four-legged furry mammal? If only we had another Strawhat who fit that description...
5. Whatever you say

But yes, having a role is an absolute must. After all, Luffy has
- The world's best shipwright
- The world's best navigator
- (Soon to be) The world's best sniper
- (Soon to be) The world's best swordsman
- One of the world's best archeologists
- (Soon to be) The world's best doctor
- A world renowned rockstar
- One of the world's best helmsmen
- The world’s best chef

You wanna know why Carrot didn't join despite all of the hype surrounding her? It's because she didn't have a role
Same deal with Yamato

 

[Ravagerblade]

1. Reread Wano. You'd be surprised at how little of a bond Luffy and Yamato share. He didn't even mention her here

Spoiler

2. And? She didn't fight alongside the Strawhats at all
3. At this point, pretty much. Zoro and Usopp had their flashbacks early on in the series before long flashbacks became standard
4. So she's able to turn into a four-legged furry mammal? If only we had another Strawhat who fit that description...
5. Whatever you say

But yes, having a role is an absolute must. After all, Luffy has
- The world's best shipwright
- The world's best navigator
- (Soon to be) The world's best sniper
- (Soon to be) The world's best swordsman
- One of the world's best archeologists
- (Soon to be) The world's best doctor
- A world renowned rockstar
- One of the world's best helmsmen
- The world’s best chef

You wanna know why Carrot didn't join despite all of the hype surrounding her? It's because she didn't have a role
Same deal with Yamato

Luffy and Yamato bond over Ace, it may not be a show but it's there. It's an immutable thing.

 

[Peenix]

Luffy and Yamato bond over Ace, it may not be a show but it's there. It's an immutable thing.

Jimbei knew Ace too. But we actually got to see him become friends with Luffy because just knowing someone's brother isn't enough