You are a complete idiot.
It's irrelevant what happened there, it's not legit because when plot demands it, the rules wont be followed. I can give you dozens of examples about this, manga is full of them, that doesnt mean those situations are legit, because author doesnt care. Setting up and moving forward the plot is the most important thing.
Luffy tanked very clearly a stronger Ragnarok and other attacks and his durability didnt change in between those chapters. It's quite simple to understand unless you're a moron.
It is not legitimate for someone like you to ask Oda to add an extra page stating that Luffy lost for X or Y reason why you are claiming this, your pet, Your ass, the point here is how many times Luffy lost and not about the reasons that led to Luffy suffer a crushing defeat, if you do not want to consider a Luffy in a state of unconsciousness and almost having his heart crushed by Kaido as not being a "legitimate" defeat, that’s not my problem, but nothing will change the fact that Luffy lost, don’t use the reasons that led him to have lost, The fact here is that he lost, the whole beginning of this debate starts with the fact that Luffy lost, and you’re trying to justify your defeat, To me, no matter what kind of crying you use to try to justify your defeat, his defeat will not cease to exist, it is in the pages of the manga for anyone.
This defeat will still be accounted for, justifying the reasons that led Luffy to lose will not cause his defeat to stop being counted.
It’s like trying to justify what happened in 923, claiming that Luffy was crazy and that he wasn’t using FS, it won’t change the fact that he lost, now you cry like a bitch saying X and Y was plot won’t help anything, because you are just a RANDOM in comparison to the great canonical evidence (pages) of Luffy unconscious and almost killed by Kaidou if it were not for the outside help he received.
923: Luffy lost, the reasons he lost doesn’t matter.
1009: Luffy lost, the reasons he lost doesn’t matter.
1013 or 1014: Again lost the reasons that led to defeat are irrelevant, these reasons you are giving.
Now you come with arguments that "Luffy lost because Zoro had a plot", you’re kidding right man? ...
"Kaido knocking out PUFFY with Ragnarok and almost crushing his heart is not a legitimate victory".
So tell me what’s legit.
You realize that denying Kaidou’s victory as something legitimate changes nothing when in the sequence he won the pre-Acoc Luffy in just one chapter after... It makes no sense to deny Kaidou’s victory when he could defeat a superior version, which is how disconnected you are from this manga.
It is like saying that the Kaido’s victory over Luffy before the jump in time was not legitimate and the kaidou goes there and defeats the version of the Luffy post timeskip.
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And then what happened to the plot when the Kaido proved superior to the version he defeated in a way that according to you and your brain is not legitimate.
,since the beginning of this discussion, it would only make sense to deny the defeat of Luffy if Kaidou did not have the ability to beat the pre-acoc Luffy that is superior to the version that lost to Kaidou.
It really is a very clever thing on your part to try to deny the defeat of Luffy version with only Ryou, Kaidou could not beat him no. LOL
"Luffy was knocked out by Ragnarok and then resisted one."
What part of the "plot" you're coming up with prevents Luffy from becoming stronger instead of weaker?! Luffy is the armor king of the plot.
