Character Discussion No Samurai/Swordsman will be has strong has Oden

[Monkey D Luffy]

Are you ok? Do you realize Mihawk is not a Samurai? He's probably never set foot on Wano in his life.

Swordsman and samurai are not different. Samurai is the name of swordsman in Wano.

 

[Bil02]

Swordsman and samurai are not different. Samurai is the name of swordsmen in Wano.

Only in Wano though.
Swordsmen outside of Wano aren't labelled that.
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Mihawk, Shanks,Roger are swordsmen and not samurai. .
Or do you want to argue Oden >Roger?

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

Only in Wano though.
Swordsmen outside of Wano aren't labelled that.
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Mihawk, Shanks,Roger are swordsmen and not samurai. .
Or do you want to argue Oden >Roger?

I prefer to belive Oda's words against yours.

 

[sanjikun]

Zoro eating a bowl of noodles. Now Mihawk being a Samurai. Amazing theories every chapter by the fanbase.

 

[ranady]

Another swordsmen outside wano clearly can't be called as samurai. If otherwise, then oden > rocks

 

[Just a member]

Do you think Zoro might've been stronger than Luffy fresh outta training after they returned to Sabaody?

Btw. Mihawk > Oden.

Oden was YC.

Imo at brst Zoro can be on par with Luffy. Afterall Luffy is the MC and Zoro isn't. Then at this point we need still to see Zoto go all out yet since the time skip Oda focused obly on Luffy, he get an hard fight with Doffy, extreme with Kata and stole his FS while Zoro had some cool one liners but no real improvement/focus/gain since the start of the time skip. He now got a new sword but this si the first real focus/training he get since time skip while Luffy had plenty.

So to make it short Luffy has way more chances to be stronger than Zoro than equal. To say this we woyld need another end of Thriller bark moment.

 

[Bil02]

I prefer to belive Oda's words against yours.

Ok 👍

 

[Shiroyru]

Are you ok? Do you realize Mihawk is not a Samurai? He's probably never set foot on Wano in his life.

So if Mihawk gave Kaido an even worse scar, Kaido wouldn’t care because Mihawk isn’t a samurai?

 

[ranady]

I prefer to belive Oda's words against yours.

Did oda ever mention all swordsmen are samurai?

 

[Monkey D Luffy]

Ok 👍

Also u can start to think" Everyone who has a sword/bisento/etc in his hands is not swordsman." Like Shanks, WB, Roger, Linlin.... WSS or being swordsman is not a shit in OP.
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Did oda ever mention all swordsmen are samurai?

They are same thing. Just Wano people saying samurai. When u understand that?

 

[сука]

They are same thing. Just Wano people saying samurai. When u understand that?

Then Kaido said Oden > Roger

 

[Shiroyru]

Then Kaido said Oden > Roger

Roger was dead before Oden vs Kaido... Also Roger is not a swordsman

 

[сука]

Roger is not a swordsman

Because?

 

[Aknolagon]

Kaido said only samurai. Samurai are the one who learn kendo, bushido code and uses katana, are japanese. Not hard to understand. Zoro, Oden and scabbards are based on japanese samurai.
Roger and Mihawk don't follow bushido code, they don't have a katana, probably didn't learn the kendo.

And no samurai doesn't mean swordsman. Swordsmen from western countries are not at all samurai, they are just swordsman.
Thought it was easy to understand, or are we gonna change the definition of a swordsman which exists since 2000 years for a manga ? Lmaoooo

 

[Shiroyru]

Because?

Tell me why Roger wasn’t called the WSS if he is actually a swordsman? Surely the PK would have been WSS if he was a swordsman

 

[HA001]

Tell me why Roger wasn’t called the WSS if he is actually a swordsman? Surely the PK would have been WSS if he was a swordsman

Pk isnt an individual strength title. Its a journey.

 

[сука]

we gonna change the definition of a swordsman which exists since 2000 years for a manga ?

You should know by now that some people here would deny the Holocaust if that somehow helped them to downplay Mihawk

 

[Finalbeta]

Tell me why Roger wasn’t called the WSS if he is actually a swordsman? Surely the PK would have been WSS if he was a swordsman

The fact no WSS is mentioned in the old gen doesn't mean no WSS existed. It's pure logic no. Nothing implies Roger wasn't honestly.

 

[Shiroyru]

Pk isnt an individual strength title. Its a journey.

So there’s some random unnamed guy out there who was stronger than Prime Roger? Weird how no one has ever mentioned this swordsman who is so legendary that he’s even stronger than the PK...

 

[HA001]

So there’s some random unnamed guy out there who was stronger than Prime Roger? Weird how no one has ever mentioned this swordsman who is so legendary that he’s even stronger than the PK...

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