Le Fishe Thread Not only are all the Female Vegapunks the dumb ones, Buckin is also the dumb one among Mads.

#41
Big mom is the only female yonko
Boa hancock is the only female shichibukai
Its their status, power and potential
Yes robin has so much potential but what she already did thenn?? Even in rencent chapter she doesnt have a pants for a god sake
Ah stop with the "two female yonko, two male yonko, two male admirals, two female admirals" bs. If that triggers you so much then stop fucking reading it and buying anything related to it, that simple.
 
#42
in the most important group, the strawhat crew, the men are the stupid ones. nami and robin are very intelligent. one is a self taught meterologist. the other became an archaeologist when she was 8. luffy is challenged. chopper is good at medicine but very gullible. sanji is an idiot when it comes to women. zoro is stoic and simple. franky is good at engineering but a dork in social settings.
You saying “franky is good at engineering but a dork in social settings” can just as easily be countered with “Nami and Robin are weak fighters”… Are you gonna say that that’s not important? That their physical ability in combat is unimportant in this fuckin battle Shonen?

like you pointed out already, Franky and chopper can be considered as smart or smarter than Nami and Robin
 
#43
Ah stop with the "two female yonko, two male yonko, two male admirals, two female admirals" bs. If that triggers you so much then stop fucking reading it and buying anything related to it, that simple.
Ahh typical oda dick sucker
Soon after they dont know hotlw to answer my question they said " just stop reading one piece" or "one piece just a cartoon" even when they already know what the truth they still lick oda dick
 
#45
Bro idk about that. In this arc Nami and Robin are going around wearing no pants in the open air :kayneshrug:
Yeah they are showing some leg skin...

That in no way takes away from their intelligence or strength.

If some chick cured cancer and won the Nobel peace prize but accepted the prize naked would you discredit her achievement because she wasn't wearing any clothes? Obviously there are idiot virgins who would be like "oh wow look at her tits" but anyone with a little bit of common sense would be like "oh wow she actually discovered the cure for cancer".

Yes lots of mangaka oda included draw the majority of their female character in a manner that is meant to be flattering sexually, even on here you have simple minded fans making comments like "namis butt was the best part of this chapter" but it's only fans who think like that that discredit the character not the fact that oda drew them the way he did.
 

Junatic

Lunatic Queen
#49
Compare BM's portrayal to that of the other Yonko, or Smoothie compared to the other SCs. Also the number of women in any given group (starting with the SHs) compared to the number of men's ridiculously low. No female admiral. Plus the oversexualization of female chars that never happens with male ones.

Honestly it can't be argued there's no sexism in OP, the fact Oda did try occasionally with some female chars in some instances by makin them strong or smart doesn't negate all the other sexist things in the story. But it's just how society in general is, which inevitably influences artists' work.
 
#50
Compare BM's portrayal to that of the other Yonko, or Smoothie compared to the other SCs. Also the number of women in any given group (starting with the SHs) compared to the number of men's ridiculously low. No female admiral. Plus the oversexualization of female chars that never happens with male ones.

Honestly it can't be argued there's no sexism in OP, the fact Oda did try occasionally with some female chars in some instances by makin them strong or smart doesn't negate all the other sexist things in the story. But it's just how society in general is, which inevitably influences artists' work.
daily reminder that oda's response to female fans criticizing his oversexualization is just "i ignore them lmao"
:kobeha::kobeha::kobeha:
 
#52
When was it ever stated the female vegapunks were dumb?

Like I agree, they have all the negative traits, but they're not dumb. Some of the most impressive stuff we've seen on Egghead that's not from OG Vegapunk is due to Atlas or Lilith
 
#53
Big mom is the only female yonko
Boa hancock is the only female shichibukai
Its their status, power and potential
Yes robin has so much potential but what she already did thenn?? Even in rencent chapter she doesnt have a pants for a god sake
So you're mad that the yonko and warlords aren't 50/50 male and female? What makes you think they should be? Are the top professional fighters 50/50 m/f? Are the world's militaries 50/50? No they're not, it's a simple fact that men and women are built differently, men are generally stronger, there are some women that can achieve that same level but they are the minority, it's nowhere close to 50/50.

With that said how does it make any difference how robin is dressed in the recent chapters? Her outfit doesn't in any way effect her level of strength, intellect, or overall importance to finding the one piece.

Hopefully someday, after you lose your virginity, you'll be able to see past a couple cm of leg skin on a manga panel and be able to notice the bigger picture.
 
#54
You saying “franky is good at engineering but a dork in social settings” can just as easily be countered with “Nami and Robin are weak fighters”… Are you gonna say that that’s not important? That their physical ability in combat is unimportant in this fuckin battle Shonen?

like you pointed out already, Franky and chopper can be considered as smart or smarter than Nami and Robin
Why is portraying women as physically weaker than men necessarily sexist tho? Thats simply a biological fact


How do you know Nami and Robin are smarter than Chopper and Franky? Like in actual cognitive intelligence, how do know?
Why does that matter tho? What is happening is what matters, and Oda portrays Nami and Robin as the most intelligent

I agree with you though, outside of strawhats, theres clearly sexism
 

Junatic

Lunatic Queen
#60
There is no bad female representation in OP. Males have far worse portrayal comparatively.
There might be a lot of dumb or useless male chars but it's all a matter of ratio. The number of male chars's extremely high so some of them are bound to be bad. But when we focus on specific groups, it's more obvious. It applies even to Nami and Robin, they might be smart but pretty much useless most of the time and oversexualized like the other cute female chars. If that's not bad reprensentation then I don't know what is.
 
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