Future Events Oda has made ZKK IMPOSSIBLE to avoid in chapter 1026

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Kaido chose Wano for a specific reason
Guess what happens when he loses that reason and his entire crew, factories, bases and plans are destroyed

 

[mrtsrdr]

mfs said he was done after the roof fight for the rest of the arc look what happened lol
he finishes king and makes a black blade when he beheads kaido :cheers:
still doubting zoro

ım not sayin zoro wont kill kaido. if zoro go to roof to help luffy . only going zoro is impossible probability. also , execution and fight is very different term

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Beyond my earlier thread about the requirements to kill Kaido. And the fact Luffy explicitly doesn’t kill.

Or the massive Ryuma parallels for Zoro and that Zoro opened this arc with murder.

This chapter all but confirmed ZKK.

Yamato is worn out already and her contributions are likely to diminish.

Momo isn’t that strong—his best move was to bite Kaido which he shrugged off a few moments later. He’s also now making an effort to stop Onigashima. He’s out of the fight.

Luffy’s only saving grace against Kaido is his haki. Oda has used depleting haki twice now in major fights involving luffy. And given Luffy is using Adv. CoC, FS and likely penetration Haki all at once? He’s got a fine time limit.

So how does this confirm ZKK? Well let’s look back into chapter 1026–Jack was defeated without much ceremony. The other Calamities are likely to offer 2/3 chapters of fights a piece before being brought down.

The fact Oda is going to bring them down so quickly likely means that Zoro/Sanji won’t be in bad form.

Now bringing us back to Kaido—I think we’ll see Luffy almost defeat Kaido but run out of juice. Had he just had a little more power, Kaido would’ve been done for. That’s when Zoro is going to finish the job and cleave Kaido’s head off.

He’s going to contradict his words to Kinnemon and not know when to die (to Luffy) and Zoro will finish the job.

Why Zoro? Beyond Ryuma parallels, no one else has the power to put Kaido down. Marco? He can’t even harm Queen permanently. Sanji? Lol. No, Zoro is the only one strong enough to finish Kaido off.

And this chapter confirmed it even further

Oh so you were waiting for MKK to be deconfirmed?

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Oh so you were waiting for MKK to be deconfirmed?

Nah, I made a ZKK thread the moment people were doubting it cause of Momo

This is for people who have trouble understanding

 

[Guiding_Thunder]

I don’t understand the logic in this post. We were literally told that the Marines and Vegapunk failed to imprison Kaido but somehow you think the Marines and Vegapunk will imprison Kaido.

Explain your thought process.

I was just coming up with ways in which Kaido will leave Wano, and since Vegapunk might be coming to Wano and his failed devil fruit turned out to not be a failure, the world Government might want him to make more, and for that he will require Kaido.

I agree that Kaido will probably escape, but like Crocodile with Alabasta, his dreams of using Wano for world conquest will be shattered by Luffy.

 

[Finalbeta]

Oh so you were waiting for MKK to be deconfirmed?

Imagine someone even needing for that? :/

 

[fanboy]

Oda teased Luffy using a sword at the beginning of Wano. Luffy will use Nidai kitetsu to kill Kaido and make it a black blade.

He will then give the sword to Zoro, since Zoro can't make a sword famous on his own and only uses other people's swords.

 

[Tai long]

I don’t understand the logic in this post. We were literally told that the Marines and Vegapunk failed to imprison Kaido but somehow you think the Marines and Vegapunk will imprison Kaido.

Explain your thought process.

Because seastone is something recent, and kaido was probably captured in his youth before he became a yonko, if not it would be a disgrace that a yonko was captured by the marines

 

[Finalbeta]

Oda teased Luffy using a sword at the beginning of Wano. Luffy will use Nidai kitetsu to kill Kaido and make it a black blade.

He will then give the sword to Zoro, since Zoro can't make a sword famous on his own and only uses other people's swords.

Not only it would be extremely bad to make Luffy kill Kaido with a sword and leave Zoro like that despite all the portrayal but it is vastly known that Luffy doesn't kill his opponents in that defeating alone means killing their dream, so is this a joke post?

 

[Gintoki]

Not only it would be extremely bad to make Luffy kill Kaido with a sword and leave Zoro like that despite all the portrayal but it is vastly known that Luffy doesn't kill his opponents in that defeating alone means killing their dream, so is this a joke post?

Even Zolo didn’t kill any of his opponents/villains on screen

inb4 he kills fodders in whiskey peak: named opponents like Mr. 9, Ms. Monday and every baroque works officer agents present on whikey peak are still alive

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Even Zolo didn’t kill any of his opponents/villains on screen

inb4 he kills fodders in whiskey peak: named opponents like Mr. 9, Ms. Monday and every baroque works officer agents present on whikey peak are still alive

He killed the magistrate in the first chapter of Wano on screen.
Does it matter if he was fodder or a top tier ? Not really since we are talking about the concept right ?

 

[Sir Yasheen]

He killed the magistrate in the first chapter of Wano on screen.
Does it matter if he was fodder or a top tier ? Not really since we are talking about the concept right ?

Was the magistrate ever confirmed dead?

 

[mugiwalaw]

omg im so shock, its prove everything omg

Spoiler: OMG

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Was the magistrate ever confirmed dead?

If by confirmed you mean we see his decomposing body then no but it was mentionned by citizens and then by Killer that Zoro is the magistrate murderer iirc.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

If by confirmed you mean we see his decomposing body then no but it was mentionned by citizens and then by Killer that Zoro is the magistrate murderer iirc.

They only ever refer to him as the magistrate slasher which is why I asked if he was dead. I just checked and the wiki says unknown

 

[LolonoisZolo]

They only ever refer to him as the magistrate slasher which is why I asked if he was dead. I just checked and the wiki says unknown

Sure since Wiki only goes by Viz translation who usually don't take many risks in terms of translation but here's an interesting paragraph :
In the original Japanese version, Zoro's crime of attacking Tsujigiro is referred to as o-bugyō-giri (お奉行斬り) or daikan-giri (代官斬り). In some translations, Zoro is said to have "killed the magistrate", implying Tsujigiro is dead. However, in the Viz translation, Zoro is only called "magistrate slasher".

Maybe @Aknolagon can help with these two terms.

I can understand your confusion though as it is indeed unclear but highly implied murder.

 

[Sir Yasheen]

Sure since Wiki only goes by Viz translation who usually don't take many risks in terms of translation but here's an interesting paragraph :
In the original Japanese version, Zoro's crime of attacking Tsujigiro is referred to as o-bugyō-giri (お奉行斬り) or daikan-giri (代官斬り). In some translations, Zoro is said to have "killed the magistrate", implying Tsujigiro is dead. However, in the Viz translation, Zoro is only called "magistrate slasher".

Maybe @Aknolagon can help with these two terms.

I can understand your confusion though as it is indeed unclear but highly implied murder.

Giri or Kiri as it’s commonly used (and aknolagon please tell me if I’m wrong) is typically just used for cutting.

In one piece Oda has the
Onigiri - Oni Cutter

And in Japanese swordsmanship there’s many ways to use these words to describe types of cuts:
Hidari Joho Kiri - An upward cut to the left
Hidari Kesa Giri - A cut from the upper left shoulder to the right hip
Migi Joho Kiri - Same as above but to the right
Migi Kesa Giri - Same as above but starting at right shoulder to left hip

Commonly known words like Harakiri use this too to describe cutting ones stomach.

I don’t think Kiri is used as “to kill” as much as it is used as “to cut”

So they’re calling Zoro the magistrate cutter

 

[Monkey D Theories]

it is vastly known that Luffy doesn't kill his opponents in that defeating alone means killing their dream

Luffy isn't batman, his idol had someone murdered in front of his eyes back in chapter 1

 

[Mr.9000]

Yeah and we should expect to see King Hybrid very soon. These fights wont last that long, 3-5 chapters for the all star fights. Kaido is not being defeated in 10 chapters, so if Zoro beats king high diff or less, that confirms zkk; Luffy will need the grandmaster to say gg.

 

[Fn Lucci]

Giri or Kiri as it’s commonly used (and aknolagon please tell me if I’m wrong) is typically just used for cutting.

In one piece Oda has the
Onigiri - Oni Cutter

And in Japanese swordsmanship there’s many ways to use these words to describe types of cuts:
Hidari Joho Kiri - An upward cut to the left
Hidari Kesa Giri - A cut from the upper left shoulder to the right hip
Migi Joho Kiri - Same as above but to the right
Migi Kesa Giri - Same as above but starting at right shoulder to left hip

Commonly known words like Harakiri use this too to describe cutting ones stomach.

I don’t think Kiri is used as “to kill” as much as it is used as “to cut”

So they’re calling Zoro the magistrate cutter

There are alternate meanings and compound words in the Japanese language. If you talk about a hitokiri you are talking about a killer, not "person cutter." The phrase Manslayer wouldn't be used at all if it was literally just that.