Future Events Oda has made ZKK IMPOSSIBLE to avoid in chapter 1026

[U c 4 up da idly]

They want to kill him. The Dressrossa people want to kill Doffy. Vivi wanted to kill Croc. Out of their sole vengance.
But no one up til now emphasized on the need to kill a villian like the Scabbards did for Kaidou. Croc, Enel, Doffy were never mentioned as "must be killed in order to achieve victory" in the same breath as the Scabbards did.

That was the shadians belief in-order to achieve victory

 

[zzShinichi]

That was the shadians belief in-order to achieve victory

Nah, they didn't emphasize that they must kill Enel for them to achive victory in your pictures. That was just their pure need for vengance, not as a must for their complete victory. The Scabbards emphasized on the need to take out Kaidou's head for the victory to be achieved.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Kaido chose Wano for a specific reason
Guess what happens when he loses that reason and his entire crew, factories, bases and plans are destroyed

Tbf, Croc's reason was because of Pluton and thinking it was there.

Kaido seems to want Wano for more than just material shit. It's the fact that it's a natural fortress that is risen into the sky. But it could be more than that we don't know


Anyway, @TheAncientCenturion, I think you'll see Luffy fully win. Only after he wins Kaido manages to regain consciousness, I think that's when it's appropriate for ZKK.

Luffy not actually winning isn't really fair to his character at this point. I don't see Zoro actually overshadowing Luffy in that regard. I don't think Zoro will be invovled in the actual fight if it happens. Just at the absolute end (hell, I see him collapsing from his injuries after beating King due to the medicine, but we'll see him show up at THAT surprising moment)

 

[Peroroncino]

Bye bye Zoro fandom. I can't fight alongside you anymore now that this guy joined forces with you.

 

[vikas]

Tbf, Croc's reason was because of Pluton and thinking it was there.

Kaido seems to want Wano for more than just material shit. It's the fact that it's a natural fortress that is risen into the sky. But it could be more than that we don't know

He lost oden's body so wants to find it

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[U c 4 up da idly]

Nah, they didn't emphasize that they must kill Enel for them to achive victory in your pictures. That was just their pure need for vengance, not as a must for their complete victory. The Scabbards emphasized on the need to take out Kaidou's head for the victory to be achieved.

And the scabbards didn't want to kill kaido for vengeance?

 

[zzShinichi]

And the scabbards didn't want to kill kaido for vengeance?

Bruh, they do. But they also emphasized on "Kaidou MUST die for the victory to be achieved". Is it that hard to understand?

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

Bruh, they do. But they also emphasized on "Kaidou MUST die for the victory to be achieved". Is it that hard to understand?

How is that different to the shadians, they believed enel must be killed for victory to be achieved as well

 

[zzShinichi]

How is that different to the shadians, they believed enel must be killed for victory to be achieved as well

When? They never said it. They WANTED to kill him, not that they MUST.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

When? They never said it. They WANTED to kill him, not that they MUST.

It was their belief that Enel needed to be killed.

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WIper even has a flashback about brining back the light of shandoria after trying to kill enel

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The shandians want kill /believe killing the enemy leader in the same way as the scabbards. Somehow you give the scabbards the benfit of the doubt that killing kaido is must based on panels where as you believe the Shandains saying the very same things about Enel means nothing.

 

[HA001]

It was their belief that Enel needed to be killed.

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WIper even has a flashback about brining back the light of shandoria after trying to kill enel

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The shandians want kill /believe killing the enemy leader in the same way as the scabbards. Somehow you give the scabbards the benfit of the doubt that killing kaido is must based on panels where as you believe the Shandains saying the very same things about Enel means nothing.

Big difference Enel was leaving anyway and got what he wanted
Kaido said he's not leaving

 

[zzShinichi]

It was their belief that Enel needed to be killed.

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WIper even has a flashback about brining back the light of shandoria after trying to kill enel

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The shandians want kill /believe killing the enemy leader in the same way as the scabbards. Somehow you give the scabbards the benfit of the doubt that killing kaido is must based on panels where as you believe the Shandains saying the very same things about Enel means nothing.

What, they never mentioned "killing Enel as a must in order for them to achieve complete victory". Cmon, show us the actual damn similar words from them. This is no difference from Vivi wanted to defeat Crocodile to free up her country. Yes she wanted to kill him, but it's not a MUST.

 

[U c 4 up da idly]

What, they never mentioned "killing Enel as a must in order for them to achieve complete victory". Cmon, show us the actual damn similar words from them.

I forgot to post a panel. Wiper talks about how Kami and his follows must be destroyed and then we see later how the Shandains talk about killing it Enel in-order to achieve victory. Furthermore Wiper upon hearing how one of the priest have been defeated, Wiper proclaims that they must leave the fallen behind and push forward at any cost so that Enel can be killed. The Shandains were will willing to sacrifice everything in-order to kill Enel.

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This is no difference from Vivi wanted to defeat Crocodile to free up her country. Yes she wanted to kill him, but it's not a MUST.

No it is not, Vivi did not constantly talk about killing Crocodile unlike the Shandains infact Vivi didn't want anyone to die.

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[NAMELESS]

My prediction:Luffy ko's Kaido and is out of the fight!Kaido rises back up and is about to kill Luffy!Zoro shows up and ZKK happens!
Sounds cliche,but i don't see it happening any other way!

 

[ThatMojaveCourier06]

Whether or not ZKK happens, the day of Kaido's defeat will truly be an epic spectacle on this forum.

 

[Finalbeta]

Who's Kaido?

Someone who will soon cease to live.

 

[uyuu]

Why? ZKK is consistent with the story.

Yeah you know Zoro killing someone wanting to be PK and interfering with Luffy's PK clash and stuff. Theres also powerlevel stuff but thats secondary. Mainly i imagine Luffy beating Mihawk instead of Zoro and thats weird. There are the hints i know but still

 

[Warchief Sanji D Goat]

Beyond my earlier thread about the requirements to kill Kaido. And the fact Luffy explicitly doesn’t kill.

Or the massive Ryuma parallels for Zoro and that Zoro opened this arc with murder.

This chapter all but confirmed ZKK.

Yamato is worn out already and her contributions are likely to diminish.

Momo isn’t that strong—his best move was to bite Kaido which he shrugged off a few moments later. He’s also now making an effort to stop Onigashima. He’s out of the fight.

Luffy’s only saving grace against Kaido is his haki. Oda has used depleting haki twice now in major fights involving luffy. And given Luffy is using Adv. CoC, FS and likely penetration Haki all at once? He’s got a fine time limit.

So how does this confirm ZKK? Well let’s look back into chapter 1026–Jack was defeated without much ceremony. The other Calamities are likely to offer 2/3 chapters of fights a piece before being brought down.

The fact Oda is going to bring them down so quickly likely means that Zoro/Sanji won’t be in bad form.

Now bringing us back to Kaido—I think we’ll see Luffy almost defeat Kaido but run out of juice. Had he just had a little more power, Kaido would’ve been done for. That’s when Zoro is going to finish the job and cleave Kaido’s head off.

He’s going to contradict his words to Kinnemon and not know when to die (to Luffy) and Zoro will finish the job.

Why Zoro? Beyond Ryuma parallels, no one else has the power to put Kaido down. Marco? He can’t even harm Queen permanently. Sanji? Lol. No, Zoro is the only one strong enough to finish Kaido off.

And this chapter confirmed it even further

 

[The White Crane]

Yeah you know Zoro killing someone wanting to be PK and interfering with Luffy's PK clash and stuff. Theres also powerlevel stuff but thats secondary. Mainly i imagine Luffy beating Mihawk instead of Zoro and thats weird. There are the hints i know but still

So, you think Kaido will walk out of Wano alive and tamed?

 

[uyuu]

So, you think Kaido will walk out of Wano alive and tamed?

..no. i said i have mixed feelings about it, meaning its a real possibility that Zoro will kill him, among other scenarios.

The other scenarios dont have to involve Kaidou living tho. If Kaidou really need to be dead, Kaidou can die standing in the last round against Luffy, like his body gives out or something.

Even without dying, Oda can give other ways for Kaidou to be hindered. Luffy can permanently damage him, a vegetable that either live or die. One of my favorite headcanon is Luffy pulls out some wild technique that can permanently destroy someone's haki. So like even with Kaidou living, he cant use CoC anymore ever (for example). This revokes him from WSC status and he's not an ultimate threat to Luffy anymore.

Tldr; Kaidou's body finally giving out in the last fight against Luffy, is my main prediction. A glorious death after The Dance of Kings.

My second most likely prediction is ZKK. It's not a version of ZKK you'd like tho since i predict ZKK with Kaidou being unable to recover fully after he is permanently defeated against Luffy.