Character Discussion Oda Respects Rob Lucci A LOT
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I want to respect @Topi Jerami as a user and a troll but I feel like every characters that he stans always end up taking an L in one way or the other.
Pica -- Got overshadowed by Pizarro's better fruit.
King -- Got shit on by Ryokugyu.
Shiryu -- Managed to stab Garp but end up getting slammed near death.
And now Topi goal shifting to Lucci Lmao. It's like he's another TAC but with Zoro opponents.
Pica -- Got overshadowed by Pizarro's better fruit.
King -- Got shit on by Ryokugyu.
Shiryu -- Managed to stab Garp but end up getting slammed near death.
And now Topi goal shifting to Lucci Lmao. It's like he's another TAC but with Zoro opponents.
100%. The moment Lucci was introduced as CP0 member years ago I was convinced he'll get oneshot the moment he meets the strawhats again. Hell, I was calling him Cucci a couple weeks back and was sure the oneshot is just the next chapter. The next chapter never came.
You've listed all the feats Oda gave him on Egghead. I'd like to add that
- he not only successfully (with Kaku) managed to convince a yonko and his 1st hand to let him out of captivity
- but also sent crucial intel to the marines while they where even in the same room with the SHPs (several 1B+ CoO experts)
- He launched an almost successful assassination attempt against VP. Though, only leading to take down a traitor CP0 agent (partly a win).
- He efficiently prioritized his goals as it was sure he'd face zoro the moment he attacked VP. Later he even confirmed that getting zoro's head instead of luffy's would still be a win for the WG and a fundamental strike against the strawhat crew.
I think Oda let Lucci be a jerk at the revery on purpose. Letting people believe he'll get punished heavily by our rightful heros. And yet, here he is, basically rocked the entire mission and now stalling FUCKING ZORO for at least as long as a battle between a yonko and an admiral lasts. This is very surprising. I would've bet my ass that he'd get shishisonson'ed very quickly. But instead Oda let's zoro draw 3 swords and vaguely hints at adv CoC application (though not confirmed, in all honesty).
We have zero reason not to believe this guy can at least keep up with an admiral. Remember, G5's effects are surprising for everyone. Even kizaru got fooled often enough and mainly avoided luffy instead of going straight at him like Lucci did.
Also, we shouldn't forget how far Kaku has come within 2 years. He's awakened and has, just like Lucci, the position of a high ranking masked CP0 member. I am very sure he's not really far away from Lucci. Even though his performance was, mission-wise, pretty shit.
Lucci has my begrudging respect and I'm curious how he'll perform the rest of the arc.
You've listed all the feats Oda gave him on Egghead. I'd like to add that
- he not only successfully (with Kaku) managed to convince a yonko and his 1st hand to let him out of captivity
- but also sent crucial intel to the marines while they where even in the same room with the SHPs (several 1B+ CoO experts)
- He launched an almost successful assassination attempt against VP. Though, only leading to take down a traitor CP0 agent (partly a win).
- He efficiently prioritized his goals as it was sure he'd face zoro the moment he attacked VP. Later he even confirmed that getting zoro's head instead of luffy's would still be a win for the WG and a fundamental strike against the strawhat crew.
I think Oda let Lucci be a jerk at the revery on purpose. Letting people believe he'll get punished heavily by our rightful heros. And yet, here he is, basically rocked the entire mission and now stalling FUCKING ZORO for at least as long as a battle between a yonko and an admiral lasts. This is very surprising. I would've bet my ass that he'd get shishisonson'ed very quickly. But instead Oda let's zoro draw 3 swords and vaguely hints at adv CoC application (though not confirmed, in all honesty).
We have zero reason not to believe this guy can at least keep up with an admiral. Remember, G5's effects are surprising for everyone. Even kizaru got fooled often enough and mainly avoided luffy instead of going straight at him like Lucci did.
Also, we shouldn't forget how far Kaku has come within 2 years. He's awakened and has, just like Lucci, the position of a high ranking masked CP0 member. I am very sure he's not really far away from Lucci. Even though his performance was, mission-wise, pretty shit.
Lucci has my begrudging respect and I'm curious how he'll perform the rest of the arc.
That's called being open minded. At December 2022, except for refusing to acknowledge part, who would have thought Oda will actually portray Lucci like this.
I underestimated Lucci like every other readers and now I learned my lesson. You can learn from me too, who would have thought Oda treats the trash as Sanji as now, and you should know when to quit being the trash's fans.
I underestimated Lucci like every other readers and now I learned my lesson. You can learn from me too, who would have thought Oda treats the trash as Sanji as now, and you should know when to quit being the trash's fans.
If we being honest, Rob Lucci's perfomance in Egghead is beyond everyone's expectations. You might already expect high from him, but you are still surprised how Oda actually treats him in this arc.
- Who would have thought that in Egghead, Rob Lucci fought Gear 5 Nika - aka the man who defeated Kaido. And not getting low diffed? Fanboys would have proudly believed "Nika neg diffs Rob Lucci one shot Bellamy style!!"
Turned out Lucci performed just fine. He wasn't impressed and even after witnessing G5 directly, the conclusion he gets is:
- Who would have thought, that Sentomaru, the man proclaimed having tightest defense, was actually get one shotted by Lucci? While Sentomaru himself admitted he wasn't distracted and still got one shotted?
Nika was there all along too, and he couldn't do shit to protect him. Earlier Luffy first saw Lucci destroyed Atlas, that pushed his berserk button and Luffy immediately turned into G5. Yet again, Lucci still managed to destroy one more of Luffy's comrade, and Luffy in his peak form couldn't do shit about it.
- Who would have thought, that the clash between Nika the man who defeated Kaido vs Rob Lucci "the mere opponent from pre TS" ended with Luffy leaving dying Sentomaru on floor behind, and let Lucci gained control of the Seraphims?
This is Luffy's condition 3 minutes after the clash:
This is Lucci's condition 3 minutes after the clash:
Anyone non biased can tell who won the overall war: the running trash who turned into old man, or the recovering guy who ended up gaining control of the Seraphims?
- When Lucci said this
People really memeing on him. Calling Lucci delusional, "he thought he was him" etc for thinking he is on same level with Kizaru.
Except, who would have thought that it's actually the truth? Lucci is on similar / comparable level to Admiral Kizaru.
"But but Lucci's AP is weak!", answer this: who one shotted healthy Sentomaru? Who couldn't one shot bandaged Sentomaru?
- People were memeing Lucci once again "B-but but he got three shotted by Gear 5"
If you call Lucci got three shotted, then Admiral Kizaru actually got one shotted. Again, who would have thought?
Between 2 pictures above, if you are not biased, you can tell, Lucci was in better condition post 3 attacks from Gear 5 than Kizaru after just 1 attack.
- And then we have Lucci's abnormal growth during the timeskip.
He actually managed to do what even prodigy like Luffy couldn't achieve during timeskip: awakening his DF.
He learned what even the most veteran Yonkos like Kaido and Big Mom couldn't achieve in their entire career.
And he awakened his DF without any known mentor. No Master Rayleigh, no Master Mihawk, no Master Ivankov, no Master Garp etc. No trash plot neither like the trash Nika.
- Actually not really a new thing that Oda respects Lucci this much. If we are being careful, Oda already respected this guy way back since Water 7 arc.
Like we know, usually Oda will use Sanji to hype the enemies.
How to make Vergo look strong? Make him dominate Sanji.
How to make Doflamingo look strong? Make him dominate Sanji.
How to make Judge look strong? Make him dominate Sanji. Etc.
And lastly, how to make Gorosei Saturn look strong? Make him dominate Sanji.
But, how to make Lucci look strong?
Make him dominate both Luffy and Zoro together. Not just the usual Sanji. Oda sacrificed both Luffy and Zoro together just to hype this guy.
I meant, Oda actually sacrifice bigger fishes to hype Lucci than to hype fucking Gorosei Saturn himself.
And worse it wasn't about "can't touch logia" scenario like Crocodile, Enel, and Aokiji. Lucci actually dominated both Luffy and Zoro in their own game. Just like Vergo dominated Sanji in his own game, except well it's just Sanji as usual in Vergo scenario.
So yeah, it's safe to say that Lucci is among 1 of the most respected character by Oda.
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- Who would have thought that in Egghead, Rob Lucci fought Gear 5 Nika - aka the man who defeated Kaido. And not getting low diffed? Fanboys would have proudly believed "Nika neg diffs Rob Lucci one shot Bellamy style!!"
Turned out Lucci performed just fine. He wasn't impressed and even after witnessing G5 directly, the conclusion he gets is:
- Who would have thought, that Sentomaru, the man proclaimed having tightest defense, was actually get one shotted by Lucci? While Sentomaru himself admitted he wasn't distracted and still got one shotted?
Nika was there all along too, and he couldn't do shit to protect him. Earlier Luffy first saw Lucci destroyed Atlas, that pushed his berserk button and Luffy immediately turned into G5. Yet again, Lucci still managed to destroy one more of Luffy's comrade, and Luffy in his peak form couldn't do shit about it.
- Who would have thought, that the clash between Nika the man who defeated Kaido vs Rob Lucci "the mere opponent from pre TS" ended with Luffy leaving dying Sentomaru on floor behind, and let Lucci gained control of the Seraphims?
This is Luffy's condition 3 minutes after the clash:
This is Lucci's condition 3 minutes after the clash:
Anyone non biased can tell who won the overall war: the running trash who turned into old man, or the recovering guy who ended up gaining control of the Seraphims?
- When Lucci said this
People really memeing on him. Calling Lucci delusional, "he thought he was him" etc for thinking he is on same level with Kizaru.
Except, who would have thought that it's actually the truth? Lucci is on similar / comparable level to Admiral Kizaru.
"But but Lucci's AP is weak!", answer this: who one shotted healthy Sentomaru? Who couldn't one shot bandaged Sentomaru?
- People were memeing Lucci once again "B-but but he got three shotted by Gear 5"
If you call Lucci got three shotted, then Admiral Kizaru actually got one shotted. Again, who would have thought?
Between 2 pictures above, if you are not biased, you can tell, Lucci was in better condition post 3 attacks from Gear 5 than Kizaru after just 1 attack.
- And then we have Lucci's abnormal growth during the timeskip.
He actually managed to do what even prodigy like Luffy couldn't achieve during timeskip: awakening his DF.
He learned what even the most veteran Yonkos like Kaido and Big Mom couldn't achieve in their entire career.
And he awakened his DF without any known mentor. No Master Rayleigh, no Master Mihawk, no Master Ivankov, no Master Garp etc. No trash plot neither like the trash Nika.
- Actually not really a new thing that Oda respects Lucci this much. If we are being careful, Oda already respected this guy way back since Water 7 arc.
Like we know, usually Oda will use Sanji to hype the enemies.
How to make Vergo look strong? Make him dominate Sanji.
How to make Doflamingo look strong? Make him dominate Sanji.
How to make Judge look strong? Make him dominate Sanji. Etc.
And lastly, how to make Gorosei Saturn look strong? Make him dominate Sanji.
But, how to make Lucci look strong?
I meant, Oda actually sacrifice bigger fishes to hype Lucci than to hype fucking Gorosei Saturn himself.
And worse it wasn't about "can't touch logia" scenario like Crocodile, Enel, and Aokiji. Lucci actually dominated both Luffy and Zoro in their own game. Just like Vergo dominated Sanji in his own game, except well it's just Sanji as usual in Vergo scenario.
So yeah, it's safe to say that Lucci is among 1 of the most respected character by Oda.
Tagging:
@JoNdule @ZenZu @Ryuarashi @Hades @Celestial D. Dragon @nik87 @comrade @Nidai_Kitetsu @sanjikun @Blackbeard @ConquistadoR @Sentinel @PeperLevi etc.
