Chapter Discussion Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy

#21
I am pretty sure its because his plot armor is stronger, nothing else. What is so special about Luffy compared to Roger and Oden, other than not dying due to a plot armor?
That Plot Armor is Luffy subconciously bending reality with his CoC.

But the Special thing about Luffy is he has Roger's will and Garps Blood in him with Oden personality.
 
#22
Oden is exactly like Luffy with a different fighting style.

1)Oden is obsessed with freedom like Luffy

2)Oden has Conquerors Haki like Luffy

3)Oden has Voice of All Things like Luffy

4) Oden has Charisma to attract allies like Luffy

5)Oden was age 19 when he took over Udon amd defeated Shutenmaru like, Luffy is age 19 right now taking out the Yonko.

6)Oden became Damaiyo at age 20, like Luffy will become Pirate King at age 20.

7) Oden has 9 Scabbards like Luffy has 9 Strawhats.



Kozuki clan is 100% a secret D like Trafalgar Law's family.



Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy
Thus gonna hint heavily Luffy be one to use Enma to cut down Kaido as make sense since he need to stand tall on his own more, not have his first mate fight his battle for him.
 
#30
Akainu
Kuzan
Kizaru
Mihawk
Sengoku
Etc
Not being able to kill someone weaker than a pacifista despite getting hits off.
Akainu, wb pirates saved him/Jinbe saved him
Aokiji wb pirates(was he even serious)
Kizaru, wb pirates.
Mihawk wasn't even serious because of Shanks relationship with luffy

Plot armor was all a build up.

Let me explain you,
Ace was Luffy's brother is known to us since alabasta it was not known to us in Impel Down or marineford

During sabody Rayleigh saved them because he was in sabody & had met strawhats before(otherwise Zoro would have died first)

Zoro was saved by rayleigh will you also call that a plot armour.

& yes nobody gives a damn about saving pacifista.

How can wb pirates let Ace's brother die.
WB himself recognised his true potential after he used conquerors haki.

Remember
Luck favours the brave.

So it is not a plot armor its a story so enjoy it.
 
#32
Akainu, wb pirates saved him/Jinbe saved him
Aokiji wb pirates(was he even serious)
Kizaru, wb pirates.
Mihawk wasn't even serious because of Shanks relationship with luffy

Plot armor was all a build up.

Let me explain you,
Ace was Luffy's brother is known to us since alabasta it was not known to us in Impel Down or marineford

During sabody Rayleigh saved them because he was in sabody & had met strawhats before(otherwise Zoro would have died first)

Zoro was saved by rayleigh will you also call that a plot armour.

& yes nobody gives a damn about saving pacifista.

How can wb pirates let Ace's brother die.
WB himself recognised his true potential after he used conquerors haki.

Remember
Luck favours the brave.

So it is not a plot armor its a story so enjoy it.
Rayleigh saving the SHs is not plot armor.....

He was the right hand of the PK (yes old ) him being enough to stop an admiral is normal.

All SHs have plot armor not new but it's clear that the one with a huge lvl of it is Luffy cuz he's MC nothing else.

Peeps bending reality to justify L plot armor doesn't help one should just get use to it lol.
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"Luck favours the brave"
......MR3,Buggy,Moria,etc
:pepeke:
 
#33
Rayleigh saving the SHs is not plot armor.....

He was the right hand of the PK (yes old ) him being enough to stop an admiral is normal.

All SHs have plot armor not new but it's clear that the one with a huge lvl of it is Luffy cuz he's MC nothing else.

Peeps bending reality to justify L plot armor doesn't help one should just get use to it lol.
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"Luck favours the brave"
......MR3,Buggy,Moria,etc
:pepeke:
Luffy has less plot Armor than the rest of the Strawhats. The other Strawhats are never put in situations like Luffy.

Oda conveniently removed Zoro from the story right before Kaido showed up.
 
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Noctis

#34
Rayleigh saving the SHs is not plot armor.....

He was the right hand of the PK (yes old ) him being enough to stop an admiral is normal.

All SHs have plot armor not new but it's clear that the one with a huge lvl of it is Luffy cuz he's MC nothing else.

Peeps bending reality to justify L plot armor doesn't help one should just get use to it lol.
---

"Luck favours the brave"
......MR3,Buggy,Moria,etc
:pepeke:
If Rayleigh saving straw hats is not plot armor then nothing is plot armor.

An author creates a dangerous situation for the protagonist to overcome. It's the same author who created the so-called strongest fighters who created the Luffy, he created them stronger than him so Luffy have challenge to overcome... he can't just create every opponent weaker than Luffy so Luffy just goes around beat guys and claim the title without a struggle.

If Oda choose the route where everything is simple like, main character not facing anything bad situation, Luffy coming out stronger than everyone from the start then there will be no story to follow, will just bunch of crap
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Akainu
Kuzan
Kizaru
Mihawk
Sengoku
Etc
Not being able to kill someone weaker than a pacifista despite getting hits off.
Are you sure the attack hit them? did you check this or clarify it? Are you sure despite being admirals they can't have attacks that have weaker AP? Are you sure that they wanted to kill them?
 
#35
If Rayleigh saving straw hats is not plot armor then nothing is plot armor.

An author creates a dangerous situation for the protagonist to overcome. It's the same author who created the so-called strongest fighters who created the Luffy, he created them stronger than him so Luffy have challenge to overcome... he can't just create every opponent weaker than Luffy so Luffy just goes around beat guys and claim the title without a struggle.

If Oda choose the route where everything is simple like, maina character not facing anything bad, Luffy coming out stronger than everyone from the start then there will be no story to follow, will just bunch of crap
If Rayleigh wasnt a character with proper background (he was the right hand of Roger) I would be ok with calling it plot armor tbh.

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If you judge situations properly (Luffy in MF as example) you will see there's bunch of crap already....

But again this is a Shonem.....some thing must be accepted otherwise one should refrain from reading it....theres no need to justify MC "miracles" tbh.
 
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Noctis

#36
If Rayleigh wasnt a character with proper background (he was the right hand of Roger) I would be ok with calling it plot armor tbh.

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If you judge situations properly (Luffy in MF as example) you will see there's bunch of crap already....

But again this is a Shonem.....some thing must be accepted otherwise one should refrain from reading it....theres no need to justify MC "miracles" tbh.
What you call in Marineford is called acknowledgment. WB acknowledged Luffy will and decide to put his trust for new generation of pirates in him, it's nothing new even in real life people do that... saving people they barely know or putting a great deal of trust.

Rayleigh made his first debut in Sabaody and in Sabaody he helped them at the same time... while we know from the way back about whitebead pirates.
 
#37
What you call in Marineford is called acknowledgment. WB acknowledged Luffy will and decide to put his trust for new generation of pirates in him, it's nothing new even in real life people do that... saving people they barely know or putting a great deal of trust.

Rayleigh made his first debut in Sabaody and in Sabaody he helped them at the same time... while we know from the way back about whitebead pirates.
:seriously:

You still trying to paint this picture to give it sense.
 

HA001

World's Strongest Swordsman
#38
If Rayleigh saving straw hats is not plot armor then nothing is plot armor.

An author creates a dangerous situation for the protagonist to overcome. It's the same author who created the so-called strongest fighters who created the Luffy, he created them stronger than him so Luffy have challenge to overcome... he can't just create every opponent weaker than Luffy so Luffy just goes around beat guys and claim the title without a struggle.

If Oda choose the route where everything is simple like, main character not facing anything bad situation, Luffy coming out stronger than everyone from the start then there will be no story to follow, will just bunch of crap
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Are you sure the attack hit them? did you check this or clarify it? Are you sure despite being admirals they can't have attacks that have weaker AP? Are you sure that they wanted to kill them?
All of them wanted to kill him especially akainu Hes a pirate it was a war.
 
#39
I am pretty sure its because his plot armor is stronger, nothing else. What is so special about Luffy compared to Roger and Oden, other than not dying due to a plot armor?
Guys, are we really this stupid? Stop arbitrarily slapping cheap labels like "plot armor" onto everything instead of taking into account the actual context.

If Rayleigh saving straw hats is not plot armor then nothing is plot armor.
That is not plot armor.

Plot armor only applies if theres no in-universe explanation for the character's survival. Rayleigh isnt saving the strawhats because of "plot". But because it is within his character to do so.
 
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