Chapter Discussion Oden is 100% Samurai Luffy

nik87

nik87

Kitetsu Wanker
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Redx said:
Guys, are we really this stupid? Stop arbitrarily slapping cheap labels like "plot armor" onto everything instead of taking into account the actual context.
That is not plot armor.
Plot armor only applies if theres no in-universe explanation for the character's survival. Rayleigh isnt saving the strawhats because of "plot". But because it is within his character to do so.
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Is it within Luffy's character to survive Mihawk in Marineford or maybe the plot armor doesnt allow Mihawk to kill him?
Is it the will of the universe that Luffy doesnt fight master swordsmen or plot armor babysits him?
Did Kuma miraculously show up on Sabaody because there is an explanation I am missing or plot armor kicked in?
Luffy doesnt die a horrible death because plot armor prevents him from doing so, whatever needs to happen will happen to prevent Luffy from dying. If you need to be stupid to realize plot armor at work then, come to the dark side...
 
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Shura

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#43
People come up with "plot armor" non sense just to justify their head canon theories or when trying to evade the arguments....using the same logic Zoro should have died by taking Luffy pain as sample he tasted before taking all the pain literally messed him up very hard and also removing Zoro from Kaido, Fox not to kill is also counted as one.

Some people who are shouting "plot armor" are forgetting the fact that Luffy's so called "plor armor" literally carrying all other SH pirates through the new world....

Posthawk case...he is simply pathetic...

Akainu couldn't kill Luffy because Luffy was saved by WB pirates, Jimbei constantly

Kizaru case you might argue but it can also be interpreted that Kizaru is not interested in killing...as he didn't shoot WB in the head when he had chance and instead shot him through lungs/heart...
 
Venom

Venom

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Shura said:
People come up with "plot armor" non sense just to justify their head canon theories or when trying to evade the arguments....using the same logic Zoro should have died by taking Luffy pain as sample he tasted before taking all the pain literally messed him up very hard and also removing Zoro from Kaido, Fox not to kill is also counted as one.

Some people who are shouting "plot armor" are forgetting the fact that Luffy's so called "plor armor" literally carrying all other SH pirates through the new world....

Posthawk case...he is simply pathetic...

Akainu couldn't kill Luffy because Luffy was saved by WB pirates, Jimbei constantly

Kizaru case you might argue but it can also be interpreted that Kizaru is not interested in killing...as he didn't shoot WB in the head when he had chance and instead shot him through lungs/heart...
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Yes lucky roo could have ate kid, but he only ate Kid's hand. plot armor.
 
LANJI CUCKSMOKE

LANJI CUCKSMOKE

SIMPJI
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#45
#45
acc to this guy
luffy is 100 percent xebec too
i honestly got a good chuckle from this
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Rmstorm said:
That Plot Armor is Luffy subconciously bending reality with his CoC.

But the Special thing about Luffy is he has Roger's will and Garps Blood in him with Oden personality.
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:kaidowhat:
this aint it.plot amor isnt just for luffy but this is wild. somebody quote this
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Rmstorm said:
That Plot Armor is Luffy subconciously bending reality with his CoC.

But the Special thing about Luffy is he has Roger's will and Garps Blood in him with Oden personality.
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:kaidowhat:
this aint it.plot amor isnt just for luffy but this is wild. somebody quote this
katakuri leaving to eat donuts is a good example of plot armour after saying he wouldnt underestimate luffy and having the ability to see what luffy could do in the future is pretty wack. but this isnt just for luffy, at any point in the story , you can point to a strawhat who had this. yall want them to die?
lmao
 
Rmstorm

Rmstorm

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#46
LANJI CUCKSMOKE said:
acc to this guy
luffy is 100 percent xebec too
i honestly got a good chuckle from this
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:kaidowhat:
this aint it.plot amor isnt just for luffy but this is wild. somebody quote this
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:kaidowhat:
this aint it.plot amor isnt just for luffy but this is wild. somebody quote this
katakuri leaving to eat donuts is a good example of plot armour after saying he wouldnt underestimate luffy and having the ability to see what luffy could do in the future is pretty wack. but this isnt just for luffy, at any point in the story , you can point to a strawhat who had this. yall want them to die?
lmao
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Katakuri fight was not plot armor. Like he told Rayleigh, it depends on who he is fighting. The personality of who he is fighting matters greatly.

Kaido's , and Rob Lucci's fight had plot armor given to Luffy.

Not just that, but Whitebeard did say that the person Roger was waiting for, would be carrying hundreds of years of history on their back, and challenge the WG.

Luffy inherited all the dreams and wills of the real D's. Like Superman from the Man of Steel(2013) carrying all of Kryton's DNA when sent to Earth.

Although, I would like to see Luffy real personality. Right now, he is a slave to fate.

I'm tired of seeing him going to a new Island when a disaster if happening.

Just like Oda renoving Zoro from travelling with the Strawhats right before Kaido appeared was plot armor for Zoro.
 
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Shura

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Rmstorm said:
I also hate it, Luffy has never made a decision on his own. Fate has been guiding him all this time.

This is why every island he lands on at the time he arrives is having an incident.

His life is not his own.
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eventhough this is true...but most of the occurrences are because of his choices...he makes a choice and fate turns according to his choices....so, it is not exactly the fate that is guiding him, he is also bending fate according to his choices
 
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Homelander

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Luffy has plot armor because he is main lead.

This is not game of thrones though .

In real life story character like luffy wont survive beyond east blue.

However thats the story oda created he wanted normal guy like luffy to achieve his dream .
 
Rmstorm

Rmstorm

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Shura said:
eventhough this is true...but most of the occurrences are because of his choices...he makes a choice and fate turns according to his choices....so, it is not exactly the fate that is guiding him, he is also bending fate according to his choices
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Fate put him in the area of Punk Hazzard, fate keeps putting him in situations where bad things are happening.

Why is ir he met Vivi when Crocodile's final plans were in motion. Fate.

Even Naruto did not have this much fate. The great sage in Naruto looked into the Future and saw Naruto. That is all the fate the series had.

Everything else was Kaguya's doing.

Even the Mayor of Fushia Village said, Luffy becoming a Pirate was fate.
 
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Homelander

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Rmstorm said:
I also hate it, Luffy has never made a decision on his own. Fate has been guiding him all this time.

This is why every island he lands on at the time he arrives is having an incident.

His life is not his own.
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Well this is incorrect. Luffy wanted to be freeest man in tje sea after his interaction with shanks.

Just forget about D or pirate king. He looked upto shanks and his crew they partied and adventured.

This is what luffy wanted.

Post time skip is different. By the time he arrived marineford he realised to stay in new world he needs to be strong to withstand against the best of the pirates.
 
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Shura

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Rmstorm said:
Fate put him in the area of Punk Hazzard, fate keeps putting him in situations where bad things are happening.

Why is ir he met Vivi when Crocodile's final plans were in motion. Fate.

Even Naruto did not have this much fate. The great sage in Naruto looked into the Future and saw Naruto. That is all the fate the series had.

Everything else was Kaguya's doing.

Even the Mayor of Fushia Village said, Luffy becoming a Pirate was fate.
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meeting is fate....but the choices he made lead to the events that occured....fate didn't put him PH, he chose to go to PH because of the phone call he got....

he met vivi and chose to fight crocodile because he was warlord....he could have denied to help her...

circumstances didn't put Luffy into pirate..he chose to become pirate....
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Kingslayer said:
In real life story character like luffy wont survive beyond east blue.
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there won't be df users/haki/sworsmen that can cut mountains also won't exist...hence OP is fantasy story...
 
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Homelander

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Rmstorm said:
Fate put him in the area of Punk Hazzard, fate keeps putting him in situations where bad things are happening.

Why is ir he met Vivi when Crocodile's final plans were in motion. Fate.

Even Naruto did not have this much fate. The great sage in Naruto looked into the Future and saw Naruto. That is all the fate the series had.

Everything else was Kaguya's doing.

Even the Mayor of Fushia Village said, Luffy becoming a Pirate was fate.
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To be fair he could say no and journey on his own like any other pirate.

Luffy took the choice in helping them. Again you are right its fated meetings however i would say its plot and luffy is main lead and hero.

Why didnt law interfere in albasta ? Again the answer is plot.
 
Finalbeta

Finalbeta

Hero of Albion
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#55
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Kingslayer said:
Luffy has plot armor because he is main lead.

This is not game of thrones though .

In real life story character like luffy wont survive beyond east blue.

However thats the story oda created he wanted normal guy like luffy to achieve his dream .
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Well in a certain sense Roger ended up like Daenerys xd
 
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