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luffy got one hit kod while kid and his underling killer fought with kaido for a lomg time until they couldnt move at all also thry had to face hawkins and apoo who was with kaido
Isn't that your answer? Kid and his underlings fought.

While Luffy was alone and had to take the full brunt of Kaido 1v1.

You are pretending like these are the same situation
 
You didn't know what exactly happened in the fight....yeah Kid and Killer fought until Kaido decided to counter attack the same way Luffy has fought until Kaido decided to counter attack, same for scabbards....you can't exactly say that Kid and Killer weren't KOed like Luffy because you have no proof for that....
can you prove whatever you say about kid and killer.
 
Should we go and count the number of panels and and plot lines Kid and zoro are involved in?

You post that panel from the start of onigashima yet EVEN IN ONIGASHIMA Zoro is more relevant.

I mean these are just facts right? Like do you not know Zoro has done way more than Kid?
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We didn't know Luffy had Gear 2 until we saw him use it. We didn't know Zoro had Ashura until we saw him use it. We didn't know Sanji had diable jimbe until we saw him use it. What's your point?
Are these the same thing though?

The narrative importance of hurting kaido is way higher than the narrative importance of just beating CP-9

The fact that Oda went out of his way to explain how Luffy and Zoro can possibly hurt kaido and Oda spent 30 chapters on just that shows this is a bigger deal.

You know what, I don't have to argue this. Within three chapters I'm sure we will have answer
 
you ignoring the page after that one in next chapter where Apoo cuts Kid even after surprise attack of Kid....
and What I am saying is that Apoo knows clearly how strong Queen is and that Queen can kill him while he didnt know about Luffy or Zoro's strength but he knew how strong Kid was and always was ready to fight Kid, he fought Kid in Sabaody, he fought him in Kid's island with Kaido present (maybe he didnt fight but he saw Kid's strength) and even then he was always prepared to fight Kid...clearly says Apoo Considers Kid as someone with much lower strength than Queen
And the Hype you are talking about, around Law was greater than this guy,
A Shichibukai
A D.
The most wanted DevilFruit worth 5 Billion Berries
Connection with both Marines and Celestial Dragon
OverPowering half SH crew in seconds including Sanji
Beating another so called rival of Luffy, Smoker
Declined Fujitora's offer in his fqce and stood against Admiral+Shichibukai
....
much more
and what happenned to him ?
and yet you are hyping Kid as someone much more pwerful than Law who lost to Doflamingo
Nah I'm not ignoring the next page, Kidd lost time talking and took an attack, nothing wrong with it. But this doesn't seem like a chill face from Apoo:

Also following your thinking process he doesn't value Zoro and Drake as real dangers cause he got back up to take the antibody even if Zoro and Drake were still on the Live Floor
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Are these the same thing though?

The narrative importance of hurting kaido is way higher than the narrative importance of just beating CP-9

The fact that Oda went out of his way to explain how Luffy and Zoro can possibly hurt kaido and Oda spent 30 chapters on just that shows this is a bigger deal.

You know what, I don't have to argue this. Within three chapters I'm sure we will have answer
I'm not arguing on the fact that Zoro is gonna play a more important role in the fight in comparison to Kidd. He will, more likely than not. What I'm saying is that it makes no sense for Kidd to not have ryou when he's at the rooftop. He can't do shit to either Kaido or Big Mom without it. He's not gonna automatically jump to fighting a yonko without a power-up and that power-up should be ryou considering its importance in this arc.
 
Should we go and count the number of panels and and plot lines Kid and zoro are involved in?

You post that panel from the start of onigashima yet EVEN IN ONIGASHIMA Zoro is more relevant.

I mean these are just facts right? Like do you not know Zoro has done way more than Kid?
You people who keep using panel count as a measure of who’s more relevant are so damn clueless lol. You realize that going off of panel count Kiku is more relevant than Kaido right? It’s about quality not quantity. Wtf do you mean Zoro has been “more relevant” than Kidd on Onigashima? Kidd has been running up the castle to Kaido the whole time, which is why to this point he hasn’t gotten much screen time. Why would Oda waste time showing him fight fodder to reach the roof? Let’s see how “relevant” he is now that he’s reach his goal.

Panel time/count is not the same as plot relevance.
 
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