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Haters need to Accept the fact that both Kidd and Killer are on the Roof with Luffy, Zoro and Law. They are there for a reason, they are included in the Oden prediction. While, Luffy being the protagonist is obvious to get the most attention and wins, that doesn't mean Kidd won't do some epic damage. Killer is not only a strong fighter, but a good strategist, he's the brains on Kidd's crew, don't count him out either.
 
Oh wait she says that she wants all their heads ?
Yeah

In the earlier translation she says something like “all I want is Strawhats head”.
I wasn’t with this Kid/Killer v Big Mom stuff but they’re lined up against each other so....:zorothink:
Same here. At first I wasn’t feeling the matchup but now I’m starting to realize that these are the best matchups to ensure that Luffy and Zoro get their shine against Kaido like everyone wants and Kidd still keeps up his portrayal as a rival by taking out someone pretty much equal to Kaido in Big Mom.

That being said I still think it’s necessary that Kidd gets revenge on Kaido in some way, so we’ll have to wait and see.
 
Yeah

In the earlier translation she says something like “all I want is Strawhats head”.

Same here. At first I wasn’t feeling the matchup but now I’m starting to realize that these are the best matchups to ensure that Luffy and Zoro get their shine against Kaido like everyone wants and Kidd still keeps up his portrayal as a rival by taking out someone pretty much equal to Kaido in Big Mom.

That being said I still think it’s necessary that Kidd gets revenge on Kaido in some way, so we’ll have to wait and see.
Oh nice
Now im sure that Kidd and Killer will fight her
 
less than 1% of Luffy's pain/fatigue, on Zoro who was still in a combat ready state, was enough to make him have a full body paingasm.
Zoro's damage was insignificant when compared to Luffy's fatigue.
Id need to reread that arc but Im pretty sure he wasnt "battle ready"
also he took the entire thing
dont understand why you have to ruin that scene with your powerscaling
 
Id need to reread that arc but Im pretty sure he wasnt "battle ready"
also he took the entire thing
dont understand why you have to ruin that scene with your powerscaling
cuz Rule 01: If it exists, then powerscale the shit out of it:kata:

just skimming through the thread u will see ppl trying to powerscale char from their position in panels/ char trashtalking each other and ofc there is the usual fandom agenda:kayneshrug:
 
Until this day i still think that:

The best way for oda to make Kaido get defeated/killed in a fantastic way and without making luffy look like he is close to kaidos level yet Just because he defeated him is making kaido get some nerf that Will make sense to luffy defeat him later. Like:

-Kaido get some damage and injuries from the 5 SN in this fight but them literally destroy them and even kill Killer.

-When theres no Hope to win and they all on the ground ,Garp shows up with One admiral OR many vice admirals with him.

-Garp came knowing that his grandson would be Fighting 2 of his old enemies and knows the TRUE potencial of these 2 and that luffy wouldnt stand a chance against them both together.

-Garp fights kaido 1 vs 1 in an epic fight, while the others marines hold BM and the SN are getting treated .

-Garp fights very Well but hes not the same anymore, kaido even with damage from the fights against the scabbards and the SN manage to not only Win but kill Garp, BUT garp Will fall in a epic way , garp Will bring an entire arm of kaido with him and other smaller damages, and make onigashima fell in a place close to the capital but with no people. Garp did a Lot.

-Luffy and the others Will get up, of course not 100% but able to fight again, luffy Will get Crazy with garp death but before he do something, kid as mad as luffy with Killer death Will impale kaido with that enormous sword using All he have left and then pass out, kaido is now Very damaged, luffy fights kaido without a arm and Very injured, luffy looks better in the fight now. Kaido ask Lilin for help..

-BM seeing kaido is a goner, bettray him and take the chance to leave the arena and Go for the red Stone and leaves wano.

-Luffy defeats kaido. Kaido is on the ground, but he surprisily stands up and quickly become his dragon form to kill ALL the citizens os the capital with a boro breath, before that happens zoro comes with Emma making It Black and slice kaido Head off that Falls and destroys Orochi castle.

I would Love if something like that happened.
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i swear ppl think Oda has a encyclopedia with "YC1/YC2/YC3/Yonko/Admiral/top/mid/low/left/right/simpson/spongebob" lvl detailed and with scientific proofs:suresure:
dude clearly doesnt give half the shit about the series powerlvl, ppl gives for a panel in the bottom corner:feelsokeman:
Oda has a vague Power system, there are some clearcut Powerlevels but it's been clear for a long time that he has zero issues writing stuff that go against his own logic if it benefits the writing
 
Oda has a vague Power system, there are some clearcut Powerlevels but it's been clear for a long time that he has zero issues writing stuff that go against his own logic if it benefits the writing
basically this, otherwise Oda will go crazy and all we will get is white panels with lines like:
Luffy Mid low left right diffs the Gifter556123 who's powerlvl is 1451.1561
no drawing, no story cuz all of his time will be spent on trying to powerlvl from panels and trashtalk with himself all day and do pixel calc his scientifically accurate geometrical drawings:pepelit:
 
Luffy and Kid, the 2 characters who were actually central to defeating Yonko this arc, truly.
To not list Law here is absurd. He’s the impetus for everything that’s happening in the New World. Kaido specifically named him as someone he wanted to kill. Law is every bit as relevant as Kid, and is every bit Luffy’s rival as Kid. It’s not Luffy and Kid, it’s Luffy, Law and Kid. As a matter of fact, if there’s two that are more important, it’s those two over Kid.
 
To not list Law here is absurd. He’s the impetus for everything that’s happening in the New World. Kaido specifically named him as someone he wanted to kill. Law is every bit as relevant as Kid, and is every bit Luffy’s rival as Kid. It’s not Luffy and Kid, it’s Luffy, Law and Kid. As a matter of fact, if there’s two that are more important, it’s those two over Kid.
Law's drive to defeat a Yonko doesnt come from a drive to be PK. At first the motive was purely to kill Doflamingo, Sengoku then pretty much told Law to live for Rocinante. Now Laws goal is finding out what the Will of D. signfies. Yes, all 3 are the most important supernova, but Luffy and Kid are the ones with an actual, sustained rivalry that comes down to trying to actually surpassing Yonko and becoming PK.
 
Law's drive to defeat a Yonko doesnt come from a drive to be PK. At first the motive was purely to kill Doflamingo, Sengoku then pretty much told Law to live for Rocinante. Now Laws goal is finding out what the Will of D. signfies. Yes, all 3 are the most important supernova, but Luffy and Kid are the ones with an actual, sustained rivalry that comes down to trying to actually surpassing Yonko and becoming PK.
Law showed just as much interest in being the Pirate King as Kid did back on Sabaody when Luffy told them what his goal was. He has multiple goals, which is fine. Not lining up exactly with Luffy in goal orientation means nothing, and he doesn’t have to want the same thing to want to surpass the Yonko. Roger, Whitebeard, and Garp all had different goals and were all about the same level. Furthermore, Law said it himself, that in the New World you either have to join the Yonko or defy them in order to live how you want to. He doesn’t want to be a subordinate, so that’s all the reason he’d need to want to surpass them.

Your point has no basis.
 
Law showed just as much interest in being the Pirate King as Kid did back on Sabaody when Luffy told them what his goal was. He has multiple goals, which is fine. Not lining up exactly with Luffy in goal orientation means nothing, and he doesn’t have to want the same thing to want to surpass the Yonko. Roger, Whitebeard, and Garp all had different goals and were all about the same level. Furthermore, Law said it himself, that in the New World you either have to join the Yonko or defy them in order to live how you want to. He doesn’t want to be a subordinate, so that’s all the reason he’d need to want to surpass them.

Your point has no basis.
Literally just gave you evidence but suit yourself. Go and reread Dressrosa of you don't believe me
 
Id need to reread that arc but Im pretty sure he wasnt "battle ready"
also he took the entire thing
dont understand why you have to ruin that scene with your powerscaling
It's chapter 485, he knocks out Sanji while in the same damage state that he takes a tiny ball of pain in, so yes battle ready, he finished Mr 1 and Hachi in worse states, Luffy has fought and beaten people in much worse states.

You are defending someone who is powerscaling the Zoro fatigue scene from over 500 chapters ago to place his damage soak above Luffy's erroneously. Go have a look at those ridiculous claims and stand by them if you want to criticize my rebuttal.

It's a great scene STORY WISE and CHARACTER WISE and shows an impressive display for Zoro to survive adding Luffy's fatigue/damage to his own, but it doesn't allow someone to scale Zoro above Luffy for buckling in pain from taking a tiny fraction of Luffy's burden, especially when Luffy has had much more impressive endurance displays since, not only before during and immediately after Marineford, but as recently as his several hour battle with Katakuri where he endured a drill shot to the organs from a YC1+ wheras Zoro fainted to a stab wound from a pleasure.
 
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