Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1001 Spoilers Discussion

[Fujishiro]

So about Kaido seeing the silhouettes....it's very difficult to believe Luffy has better haki than BB, Mihawk, Dragon, Garp etc.

Its more so that Kaido has a list of people who can legit hurt him and actually did it in an encounter. The Scabbards were cutting the fuck out Kaido, impaled him and even had him on his knees clutching his wounds. He had a vision of Oden when they attacked him. However, he could quickly recover from it and expressed his disappointment that he was wrong.

Luffy on the other caused LASTING damage on Kaido just like Oden on panel. At best, it says Shanks has the best haki out of everyone alive.

He has a rare type of haki. That’s fine.

Other top tiers can hurt him but seems like Kaido clearly put those that can actually fight him (whatever that means) and limited it.
Tho I think Mihawk and Akainu can do similar stuff as Roger/WB in the way of fighting Kaido and hurting him severely.

 

[Seraphoenix]

The played cards 👀

 

[kom5]

All people in Kaidos imagination have the highest form of COA I hope our friends from wikis will finally acknowledge it

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

Guess he was fighting John Giant and Momongo. They captured him

Kaido: “WB this. Roger that. Shanks this. Oden that. Oh my god Xebec.”

Kaido literally give 0 fucks about admirals and the navy.

 

[Lukegranders]

I see downplaying everwhere
Here, Reddit, it’s an amazing unified front.
Zoro literally cut Kaido w/o haki

He cut him with haki the panel with the scabbards looked the same

 

[MagmaDog]

Guess he was fighting John Giant and Momongo. They captured him

If anything the current admirals catching Kaido 18 times makes him look bad

 

[Ice devil slayer]

Zoro used invisible haki but his swords weren't blackened

He's nowhere near at 100%

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

If anything the current admirals catching Kaido 18 times makes him look bad

Not all of those capture came from the navy, and some of them could have been from Garp and Sengoku in his youth.

 

[Adam 🍎]

So about Kaido seeing the silhouettes....it's very difficult to believe Luffy has better haki than BB, Mihawk, Dragon, Garp etc.

Its more so that Kaido has a list of people who can legit hurt him and actually did it in an encounter. The Scabbards were cutting the fuck out Kaido, impaled him and even had him on his knees clutching his wounds. He had a vision of Oden when they attacked him. However, he could quickly recover from it and expressed his disappointment that he was wrong.

Luffy on the other caused LASTING damage on Kaido just like Oden on panel. At best, it says Shanks has the best haki out of everyone alive.

You know damn well Luffy fans will say Luffy is equal to those people

 

[Fujishiro]

🥰

 

[Uncle Van]

He has a rare type of haki. That’s fine.

Other top tiers can hurt him but seems like Kaido clearly put those that can actually fight him (whatever that means) and limited it.
Tho I think Mihawk and Akainu can do similar stuff as Roger/WB in the way of fighting Kaido and hurting him severely.

I say Roger, WB, Xebec, Oden and Shanks have the haki(AP) to treat him like a normal human. They can hit really hard and leave lasting damage. Everyone else has to play the DPS game.

 

[Extravlad]

Cringe. In the manga it looks like Akainu is the one who backed down, not Marco.

WTF is that headcanon
Marco couldn't make Akainu back down with the help of 11+ commanders,Crocodile and New World captains
The fact is that he is no longer there when WB arrives, which means he left, and he wasn't gonna leave with Luffy behind him so the Anime depicting Sakazuki sending him fly is CORRECT.

The first time Sakazuki attacked Jimbei when Jinbei tried to save Ace, Jinbei didn’t even get pushed. Jinbei didn’t even use hardening to block the attack. The second time Sakazuki attack Jimbei, he was literally mid air. If they’re on the ground Jimbei just dodges that.

Sakazuki did not attack Jinbe. He attacked Ace/Luffy and Jinbe stepped in. That's very different. You don't put the same effort in finishing an almost dead target and a healthy fighter.

But you don’t have any on panel evidence, just an interpretation. Even if it was a one shot, the very fact that Curiel is alive and has no scars doesn’t bode well for the magma goats odds against Yonko.

Hypocrisy at It's finest.
Kaido has
-Never killed someone, Akainu did.
-Never scarred someone, Akainu scarred the fucking MC.
-Never injured anyone with a mortal would, Akainu blew off half of WB's head.

Odds against a Yonko? Sakazuki fought the STRONGEST YONKO to a standstill at Marineford (Chapter 567,568à) and that was BEFORE WB had any heart attack or suffered any injury other than Squardo's pathetic stab.

 

[Kromage911]

Why would Kaido see a MARINE in Luffy ?

Mihawk simply never fought Kaido which makes sense since Kaido is still alive

It's not about seeing someone in Luffy but for the ones who can damage him.

 

[mly90]

Guess Emma is really a magical sword.
Zoro can cut fire and even scratch Kaido without haki. So only three possibilities
1) Enma is a magical sword
2) Oda forgot to portray barrier ryou or whatever
3) Inconsistency and dumb in Oda part.

Yeah and Kinemon was also using a magical sword to cut fire and all the scabbards used magical swords to cut Kaido.
Let's also pretend Killer didn't do the same or that Zoro only used Enma against Kaido

 

[Rivaille]

Stop the nonsense, Oda never drew the scabbards ysing black haki when they cut kaido. He used haki, not hardening.

This is factually false.
They used koka when they attacked him with « Togen Totsuka ».

 

[Tejas]

If anything the current admirals catching Kaido 18 times makes him look bad

And Kaido escaping successfully and giving no fucks makes the AdmiraLs look worse

 

[Extravlad]

You literally just grouped him with Shanks and Oden with no reason, how the fuck would it be different if he was next to or below Roger anyway? Is there some sort of silhouette powerscaling i'm unaware of?

Oda chose to group him with Shanks and Oden. He could have put 3 silouhettes in the back and 2 in the front. He chose to make WB/Roger stand out

 

[Tejas]

Marines should be renamed Larines after this.

 

[MagmaDog]

And Kaido escaping successfully and giving no fucks makes the AdmiraLs look worse

Doubt the admirals were guarding him 24/7 while he was imprisoned.

 

[Fujishiro]

I say Roger, WB, Xebec, Oden and Shanks have the haki(AP) to treat him like a normal human. They can hit really hard and leave lasting damage. Everyone else has to play the DPS game.

Maybe, I think Mihawk can too tbh.

Kaido has to actually block and dodge with the others you mentioned.