Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1002 Spoilers Discussion

[CbShadow]

Yes, im using that because theres characters that have swords and Clash with their swords and still NOT swordsman, the same can APLLY to shanks, we dont know for sure, a d dor his feats is what me make he think he has way more than his sword aas others too.

Black blades UNTIL TODAY means NOTHING to prove someone is stronger than others because of it, we dont even know How its made, what requires to made It. Until today i speak of it the same as i Said of having or not having haki. Speculation.

Pirite king dosent mean the strongest , for sure, but you have to be a Monster to be able to become It and face all that its needed, WB and Roger were equals as we know and Roger was the One because he had more intersting on It. And even Mihawk with already with his title Said is harder to become PK than have his title. So yeah, Roger, raylegh, WB, shanks not having Black weapons dont make them under who have.

I have been reading a post and you know you're a funny person.

You want to tell us how one character is stronger than another characte but then at the same time you want to tell us that we don't have enough information to say what a character can really do or how they fight. If that's the case let's apply that to all characters.

You can't tell me that Shanks, big mom, Kaido, or even Rogers are stronger than Mihawk because we don't have enough information about Mihawk.

You can't claim that creating a black blade is not strength based because don't have enough information. You claim that is nothing but speculation.

Now lets stick to facts.

Mihawk is the WSS. There's no such thing as a pure swordsman in one piece. Either you are a swordman or you aren't. At this time there's more information supporting Shanks is swordsman. If you want to claim he's not a swordsman please provide facts showing us that he's not.

 

[Rekien]

so Luffy got pierced by Mogura is comparable to paper cut? okay...yeah poison lol, he was fine with poison for few more days but Killer attack triggered poison?...lmao the logic....the poison is not a big deal given Tama was also survived eating the same poisonous food for days....

Luffy got KOed for what like not even minutes...momentary KO is nothing even Luffy managed to do that to Kaidou...and comparing Sanji situation to Katakuri fight is even more worse.....

You still did not answer the question? did Zoro dance around after taking Luffy pain ? YES or NO? ....

Luffy didn't move after he was hit by poison? then who brought Bon clay to Ivankov? Zoro?

During treatment, he literally fighting for his life... guess you skipped Impel down arc....

You just read what you wanna read dont you?
"so Luffy got pierced by Mogura is comparable to paper cut?"
I never fucking said this. this is what i said
"Of course it makes a gigantic difecence LOL, where an atack hits and how it hits is important. Its like saying cutting your finger with paper is also just as bad because it draws blood. "

Just because both wounds draw blood, dosent mean the damage from both is the same, yes a blade going straight through your shoulders is MUCH WORSE than a blade going through the far side of your belly.

I already answered you, he was still standing AND COUNCIOUS.


Yes, he surely was moving around a lot....Look at how much he is dancing around.

Lets just agree to disagree and you can go out on your way trying to try your best in twisting someone else's words, i suggest you improve with it BTW, because you suck at it. Or maybe you are just that bad at reading.

 

[Hades]

You just read what you wanna read dont you?
"so Luffy got pierced by Mogura is comparable to paper cut?"
I never fucking said this. this is what i said
"Of course it makes a gigantic difecence LOL, where an atack hits and how it hits is important. Its like saying cutting your finger with paper is also just as bad because it draws blood. "

Just because both wounds draw blood, dosent mean the damage from both is the same, yes a blade going straight through your shoulders is MUCH WORSE than a blade going through the far side of your belly.

I already answered you, you thick headed asshat, he was still standing AND COUNCIOUS.


Yes, he surely was moving around a lot....Look at how much he is dancing around.

Lets just agree to disagree and you can go out on your way trying to try your best in twisting someone else's words, i suggest you improve with it BTW, because you suck at it. Or maybe you are just that bad at reading.

That is what I am saying....mogura didn't just draw blood...blade going through the stomach is equally worse as blade going through your shoulder....Katakuri himself said it that wound was fatal....I would take his word than some random user words any day....

but Zoro still didn't move right? what does it matter whether he was conscious or not? Luffy also remained "conscious" after Lucci fight by that logic....btw I am not the one who used "moving" equal to endurance....ID/MF arcs are a testament to many Luffy endurance feats...even Ivankov mentioned that whatever Luffy did beyond his limits....it is not just harmones...lol, not anyone can take such excrutiating treatment and lives (again Ivankov statement not mine)...

then tell me who brought Bon clay to Ivankov? Zoro? he "ENDURED" a lot of poison in his body and moved to the place in that chill weather where Ivankov stays? .....before pointing at me or calling asshat or whatever (which is a sign of loser), you should learn to read or don't just read what you want to read....

 

[bennbeckman]

assuming we aren't getting pics, i believe a full redon summary will probably be out in 6 hours at the earliest and 11 hours at the latest

 

[Ganja userr]

I was hoping for a few pics by now, tomorrow morning it is lol

 

[MonsterZoro]

out

 

[sanjikun]

out

I knew you were gay.

 

[Igor_akainu_redog]

I have been reading a post and you know you're a funny person.

You want to tell us how one character is stronger than another characte but then at the same time you want to tell us that we don't have enough information to say what a character can really do or how they fight. If that's the case let's apply that to all characters.

You can't tell me that Shanks, big mom, Kaido, or even Rogers are stronger than Mihawk because we don't have enough information about Mihawk.

You can't claim that creating a black blade is not strength based because don't have enough information. You claim that is nothing but speculation.

Now lets stick to facts.

Mihawk is the WSS. There's no such thing as a pure swordsman in one piece. Either you are a swordman or you aren't. At this time there's more information supporting Shanks is swordsman. If you want to claim he's not a swordsman please provide facts showing us that he's not.

I have been reading a post and you know you're a funny person.

You want to tell us how one character is stronger than another characte but then at the same time you want to tell us that we don't have enough information to say what a character can really do or how they fight. If that's the case let's apply that to all characters.

You can't tell me that Shanks, big mom, Kaido, or even Rogers are stronger than Mihawk because we don't have enough information about Mihawk.

You can't claim that creating a black blade is not strength based because don't have enough information. You claim that is nothing but speculation.

Now lets stick to facts.

Mihawk is the WSS. There's no such thing as a pure swordsman in one piece. Either you are a swordman or you aren't. At this time there's more information supporting Shanks is swordsman. If you want to claim he's not a swordsman please provide facts showing us that he's not.

I want to say shanks is stronger because of his feats are better, just that, not even Said by How much anytime since they were pretty close or even equals.

And i Just dont say shanks is swordsman because we already Saw other people using swords and even using It for clashs but not being swordsman. So as a fact its unknown what he is until now. You think he IS, i think he isnt because his feats and How misterious he is, make me think he have way more than Just a sword as his main weapon.

Only time Will give us the answer.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Even napoleon is a named sword and BM is NOT a swordsman, yeah shanks have a swords since Very Young and he uses It in battle but we never Saw him fight to say he uses HIS swords as his MAIN thing. Because ALL swordsman use their swords as their MAIN weapon.

Mihawks wants a true swordsman, their lengenday fights dontnprove shanks using his sword as his mqins weapon, he does use It , thats ALL we know.

SHANKS is Full of misteries, later you Will brake your face with thinking they way you are.

 

[Krusher1357]

Pics in twenty minutes. If not then under four hours.

 

[Debanv]

no pics yet ?

 

[MugiwaraMaster]

Anyone feel everything outside of wano is more interesting the wano?

The SSG, Vegapunk, Blackbeard on the move, Shanks talking to the gorosei, Revs vs admirals, Sabo "dead" , and the marines vs shichibukai

This.

What is the WG planning? What is Blackbeard after? What in the fuck happened to Vivi?

So many questions and Oda never answered it in two years by now.

 

[Luffy bin Dragon]

Mihawks wants a true swordsman,

Tell Mihawk to cancel his fight with Zoro then

 

[MonsterZoro]

dont worry

 

[Krusher1357]

dont worry

Am worried

 

[TEAMSJ]

I'm going to be put off by all this stuff until they start giving Sanji his proper due. Type of crap. Its not horrible writing but just horrible writing of Sanji. On top of that this isn't Sanji bias. Because I'm a Sanji fan and could care less about Usopp and Nami. Yet I feel like at this stage in the series they should have been giving devil fruits, one or both of them. So what if Nami likes swimming. She's not in the Paradise part of Grand Line, do you see how easily Big Mom grabbed Marco like that and Marco was thought to be one of the ones strong enough to take down Blackbeard. Yet these people have Nami out here getting taken out by someone like Brulee and really act as if this can be a Pirate King crew. Swimming isn't more important than survivng and Oda spoke on them having to sacrifice for the better of the crew.Just like Sanji with the raid suit sacrificed his pride. Besides they have Jinbe, Zoro, Sanji and Franky who can swim. So Nami still swimming is not all that important. Could you imagine the logic behind, we have all these pirates that are super stronger than Nami trying to kill and capture the crew and Nami is one of the weakest but we won't enhance her because she likes swimming? I mean Franky was already a Cyborg and is physically strong. But Nami is just a plain human in the story. And while that's endearing to have a plain human woman survive the new world, just like a plain human guy in Usopp it is really something he could enhance. But now I know Sanji isn't the second strongest in the crew but that is so crap to just have him held hostage. While they are facing Kaido. They got him in no man's land. As if Sanji did something evil and Oda is writing his character in spite. Tired of this crap. Sanji should be up there. I'm not saying he should be delivering the killing blow but they should have him up there. He may not be ranked as a supernova over some bounty technicality and because Oda wanted to keep him secret for the Germa plot but still he's just as qualified. And its rumored his goal may be tied to the destruction of the red line anyway (although its just theory). So technically his goal may turn out to be the one that directly opposes the Celestial Dragons. Plus its not fair that they just had a whole plot where the plan was to kidnap him, force him into a wedding, make him relive his past trauma, be forced to beg for the livelihood of his captain as well as crew and mentor, harm his Captain, just to then have him and his family assassinated by Big Mom. Although Sanji was the first member of the crew besides Luffy (Jinbe was already in that world before joining) to get to be face to face with a Yonko. And on top of that, people say that Zoro is going to rage at Sanji for what he did to Luffy. At the same time he fought Luffy under much less reasonable circumstances. Then you have the part where I'm mentioning how its wrong that Sanji is getting this C-List Usopp treatment. This isn't a Sanji is better than Zoro thing but its the fact that they're quite similar characters with Zoro having the edge. Zoro was willing to sacrifice himself with Kuma right? Who is the only other Strawhat besides Zoro to still be standing. On top of that, he was already hugely wounded from Absalom. Zoro really took no damage from Ryuuma to be fair. But just like Zoro sacrificed himself for Luffy and his crew without their knowledge, so too did Sanji. He sacrificed himself to a Yonko to save them. And they already had him going toe to toe with Big Mom together with Luffy. And truthfully they did not do that with the rest of the crew. The other crew had Jinbe and the weaker members vs Big Mom or the whole crew running. Its apparently shows that both Zoro and Sanji can play the "Killer" to Luffy's "Kidd." Meaning they both can take on the role Killer has in Kidd's crew. Just that Sanji rarely has to. The only difference is that Sanji rarely gets the credit. But at this point in the story, there is no way Oda should still be keeping Sanji in the shadows. Its nice that they touched on the Assassin family thing like Killua but that should mean that Sanji is a prodigy in a sense just like in Hunter x Hunter. Or could've been lol. But anyway he can be an assassin and still be a very known pirate. The other thing is with this supernova stuff. Techinically, Sanji would be the number two on every other Supernova crew. If he was a member of Law's crew he'd be up there. But anyway, Sanji is stronger than all the number's 2 on other crews. And if he was on another crew and not the Strawhats or Kidd Pirates then he'd be in the supernova and considered as strong as both Killer and Zoro. And that's not speculation. It seems obvious to me. So I mean, Sanji is the exception to all these pirate crews where Sanji legitimately can be his own captain and the number two of a crew as well as Zoro. Of course Zoro is the stronger of the two but Sanji is right up there this whole idea of not having him out there is a bit weak. Plus they have him with the Raid Suit that Big Mom so coveted, so you know know there are just a myriad of reasons that Sanji should be up there. And the SMILE being poisoned food basically. Oda would be dropping the ball to keep him out the big fight regardless of what he has planned for Sanji later in the story. You just don't do that to the monster trio that has been shown to be a thing since forever. He did have it saying that Jinbe was going to escort both Sanji and Luffy to the rooftop as opposed to just Luffy. Just like Marco said he was sending Zoro up. Which wasn't spoken by anyone else. We should be here having a 6 on 2 battle.

Enough of the Sanji downlplaying stuff. Bring back the Sanji wwe were introduced to who was badass as heck!

 

[MonsterZoro]

I'm going to be put off by all this stuff until they start giving Sanji his proper due. Type of crap. Its not horrible writing but just horrible writing of Sanji. On top of that this isn't Sanji bias. Because I'm a Sanji fan and could care less about Usopp and Nami. Yet I feel like at this stage in the series they should have been giving devil fruits, one or both of them. So what if Nami likes swimming. She's not in the Paradise part of Grand Line, do you see how easily Big Mom grabbed Marco like that and Marco was thought to be one of the ones strong enough to take down Blackbeard. Yet these people have Nami out here getting taken out by someone like Brulee and really act as if this can be a Pirate King crew. Swimming isn't more important than survivng and Oda spoke on them having to sacrifice for the better of the crew.Just like Sanji with the raid suit sacrificed his pride. Besides they have Jinbe, Zoro, Sanji and Franky who can swim. So Nami still swimming is not all that important. Could you imagine the logic behind, we have all these pirates that are super stronger than Nami trying to kill and capture the crew and Nami is one of the weakest but we won't enhance her because she likes swimming? I mean Franky was already a Cyborg and is physically strong. But Nami is just a plain human in the story. And while that's endearing to have a plain human woman survive the new world, just like a plain human guy in Usopp it is really something he could enhance. But now I know Sanji isn't the second strongest in the crew but that is so crap to just have him held hostage. While they are facing Kaido. They got him in no man's land. As if Sanji did something evil and Oda is writing his character in spite. Tired of this crap. Sanji should be up there. I'm not saying he should be delivering the killing blow but they should have him up there. He may not be ranked as a supernova over some bounty technicality and because Oda wanted to keep him secret for the Germa plot but still he's just as qualified. And its rumored his goal may be tied to the destruction of the red line anyway (although its just theory). So technically his goal may turn out to be the one that directly opposes the Celestial Dragons. Plus its not fair that they just had a whole plot where the plan was to kidnap him, force him into a wedding, make him relive his past trauma, be forced to beg for the livelihood of his captain as well as crew and mentor, harm his Captain, just to then have him and his family assassinated by Big Mom. Although Sanji was the first member of the crew besides Luffy (Jinbe was already in that world before joining) to get to be face to face with a Yonko. And on top of that, people say that Zoro is going to rage at Sanji for what he did to Luffy. At the same time he fought Luffy under much less reasonable circumstances. Then you have the part where I'm mentioning how its wrong that Sanji is getting this C-List Usopp treatment. This isn't a Sanji is better than Zoro thing but its the fact that they're quite similar characters with Zoro having the edge. Zoro was willing to sacrifice himself with Kuma right? Who is the only other Strawhat besides Zoro to still be standing. On top of that, he was already hugely wounded from Absalom. Zoro really took no damage from Ryuuma to be fair. But just like Zoro sacrificed himself for Luffy and his crew without their knowledge, so too did Sanji. He sacrificed himself to a Yonko to save them. And they already had him going toe to toe with Big Mom together with Luffy. And truthfully they did not do that with the rest of the crew. The other crew had Jinbe and the weaker members vs Big Mom or the whole crew running. Its apparently shows that both Zoro and Sanji can play the "Killer" to Luffy's "Kidd." Meaning they both can take on the role Killer has in Kidd's crew. Just that Sanji rarely has to. The only difference is that Sanji rarely gets the credit. But at this point in the story, there is no way Oda should still be keeping Sanji in the shadows. Its nice that they touched on the Assassin family thing like Killua but that should mean that Sanji is a prodigy in a sense just like in Hunter x Hunter. Or could've been lol. But anyway he can be an assassin and still be a very known pirate. The other thing is with this supernova stuff. Techinically, Sanji would be the number two on every other Supernova crew. If he was a member of Law's crew he'd be up there. But anyway, Sanji is stronger than all the number's 2 on other crews. And if he was on another crew and not the Strawhats or Kidd Pirates then he'd be in the supernova and considered as strong as both Killer and Zoro. And that's not speculation. It seems obvious to me. So I mean, Sanji is the exception to all these pirate crews where Sanji legitimately can be his own captain and the number two of a crew as well as Zoro. Of course Zoro is the stronger of the two but Sanji is right up there this whole idea of not having him out there is a bit weak. Plus they have him with the Raid Suit that Big Mom so coveted, so you know know there are just a myriad of reasons that Sanji should be up there. And the SMILE being poisoned food basically. Oda would be dropping the ball to keep him out the big fight regardless of what he has planned for Sanji later in the story. You just don't do that to the monster trio that has been shown to be a thing since forever. He did have it saying that Jinbe was going to escort both Sanji and Luffy to the rooftop as opposed to just Luffy. Just like Marco said he was sending Zoro up. Which wasn't spoken by anyone else. We should be here having a 6 on 2 battle.

Enough of the Sanji downlplaying stuff. Bring back the Sanji wwe were introduced to who was badass as heck!

Very nice essay a+

 

[stealthblack]

On who did law use gamma knife?

And I guess it failed or else spoilers would say if it did damage.

 

[MonsterZoro]

Sanji and kaido only two person who can tank gamma knife so far without any special powers

 

[Fuckthis3]

Your wifey say im looking a whole snack