Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[ShishioIsBack]

Who gives a shit Mihawk > Kaido and Meme anyways

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

No we have Databook proving him. The thing about yonko is often misinterpreted, it's about political power and influence.

No it isn't. If that was the case, Marco would have been dubbed a Yonko after Whitebeard died, as he took over the crew. They still had plenty of Political power and influence even without Whitebeard, but what they couldn't do without Whitebeard was hold onto it.

 

[Kejon]

Who gives a shit Mihawk > Kaido and Meme anyways

You know very well that Kaido's hybrid form would defeat Mihawk.

 

[HA001]

This is the ''it's about skill level'' of replies

its a fact go read the manga it never said strongest

 

[Rekien]

No it isn't. If that was the case, Marco would have been dubbed a Yonko after Whitebeard died, as he took over the crew. They still had plenty of Political power and influence even without Whitebeard, but what they couldn't do without Whitebeard was hold onto it.

He lost to BB, most of the teritory and influence went straight to BB after he won.....

If he had won he would be Yonko but he lost.

 

[Finalbeta]

No it isn't. If that was the case, Marco would have been dubbed a Yonko after Whitebeard died, as he took over the crew. They still had plenty of Political power and influence even without Whitebeard, but what they couldn't do without Whitebeard was hold onto it.

It is. Prove differently.

Mihawk remains canonically WSS so that's the only thing that makes sense. It's about reversal logic. Very intuitive basically.

 

[Zowo]

That hardly matters. He might be a swordsman, but he just doesn't fully rely on his sword to attack people. Same with BM.

yeah swordsmen both bm and fuji
bm showcased a skill zoro has to recognize cursed/unusual swords
she with enma
zoro with nidai and sandai

 

[Rekien]

You know very well that Kaido's hybrid form would defeat Mihawk.

Explain how you already saw how powerfull the hybrid is....and how you have access to that information before everyone since all we will see this chapter is the hybrid shadow.

 

[GrandmasterChef Zonji]

I mean in the Almost every One piece game Shanks is Always Using Sword with tremendous Haki ( lik OPBrR, OP pirate warrior, etc) Like Hell even on OPBR ROGER IS USING SWORD when it doesn't Implied Roger Is Swordsman.

 

[Lukegranders]

the only one injecting headcanon is you

shanks as a child in the oden flashback has a sword

shanks with buggy in wbs memeories has a sword

shanks duelled with mihawk with a sword

shanks in luffys past has a sword

shanks when ace met him has a sword

shanks when he clashed with wb used his sword

shanks when he blocked akainus punch used his sword

post time skip shanks still has a sword

ace novel when his coc isnt enough he reaches for his sword


over 30 years this man has used a sword
he is a swordsman

All of that yet Oda still implied he wasn’t a swordsman in his own words. Also we never seen shanks fight carrying a weapon and clashing doesn’t mean shot every yonko has a weapon.

 

[ShishioIsBack]

You know very well that Kaido's hybrid form would defeat Mihawk.

My fucking ass Kaidos hybrid form came out in fear of Zoro tearing his ass apart with his Haki, can you imagine what Zoros master would do.

Zoro forced Kaido to hybrid form before Kaido could even force Zoro to Sanzen Sekkai let alone Ashura

 

[HA001]

All of that yet Oda still implied he wasn’t a swordsman in his own words. Also we never seen shanks fight carrying a weapon and clashing doesn’t mean shot every yonko has a weapon.

does kaido not fight with his club ?
does meme not fight with napolean ?
did wb not fight with his bisento ?

congrats you just bodied yourself

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

He lost to BB, most of the teritory and influence went straight to him after he won.....

If he had won, he would be Yonko but he lost.

That's exactly what I was saying. They couldn't hold onto that power and influence without Whitebeards strength. Doesn't matter how vast your army is, or how far your reach goes, without the overwhelming strength of the Captain, one cannot be a Yonko. As a matter of fact, Doflamingo's forces were bigger than Whitebeards, and one can argue Doflamingo had one of, if not the most political power and influence out of all Pirates due to his dealings in the Underground, and him being a former Celestial Dragon, but he wasn't even a contender for the title of a Yonko when Whitebeard died.

 

[Rekien]

My fucking ass Kaidos hybrid form came out in fear of Zoro tearing his ass apart with his Haki, can you imagine what Zoros master would do.

Zoro forced Kaido to hybrid form before Kaido could even force Zoro to Sanzen Sekkai let alone Ashura

dosent look like he would do much tbh

 

[HA001]

That's exactly what I was saying. They couldn't hold onto that power and influence without Whitebeards strength. Doesn't matter how vast your army is, or how far your reach goes, without the overwhelming strength of the Captain, one cannot be a Yonko. As a matter of fact, Doflamingo's forces were bigger than Whitebeards, and one can argue Doflamingo had one of, if not the most political power and influence out of all Pirates due to his dealings in the Underground, and him being a former Celestial Dragon, but he was even a contender for the title of a Yonko when Whitebeard died.

bb declared himself strongest at marineford said it was his era yet it took him a year including taking wbs territory to become a yonko

 

[ShishioIsBack]

That's exactly what I was saying. They couldn't hold onto that power and influence without Whitebeards strength. Doesn't matter how vast your army is, or how far your reach goes, without the overwhelming strength of the Captain, one cannot be a Yonko. As a matter of fact, Doflamingo's forces were bigger than Whitebeards, and one can argue Doflamingo had one of, if not the most political power and influence out of all Pirates due to his dealings in the Underground, and him being a former Celestial Dragon, but he wasn't even a contender for the title of a Yonko when Whitebeard died.

This chapter literally no diffs that Garbage Ass "Oden Haki" bullshit.

Kaido literally just notices Enma being Odens sword because just like every other sword, Enma carries Odens will, not some Dormant Haki BS.

It was 100% Zoros Haki

 

[MonsterKaido]

Well mihawk has a black blade that may help him counter the advantage devil fruit swordsmen have. That being said one piece world is vast with different combinations of physical strength , haki and devil fruits. It depends what mihawk has and the level of mastery.

 

[Zowo]

Well mihawk has a black blade that may help him counter the advantage devil fruit swordsmen have. That being said one piece world is vast with different combinations of physical strength , haki and devil fruits. It depends what mihawk has and the level of mastery.

zoro can use fire on his sword he s no longer a pure swordsman

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

This chapter literally no diffs that Garbage Ass "Oden Haki" bullshit.

Kaido literally just notices Enma being Odens sword because just like every other sword, Enma carries Odens will, not some Dormant Haki BS.

It was 100% Zoros Haki

Not sure what this has to do with what I am talking about now, and didn't we go over this last week, I never said Zoro was using Oden's Haki, and that when I speak of Enma retaining Haki, it's strictly from a turning a blade black standpoint? Don't quote me with idiotic bs.

 

[Finalbeta]

Well mihawk has a black blade that may help him counter the advantage devil fruit swordsmen have. That being said one piece world is vast with different combinations of physical strength , haki and devil fruits. It depends what mihawk has and the level of mastery.

For all we know Mihawk could still kill even Teach right now, because of not undergoing the same disadvantage against Yami. :cheers: