Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Light D Lamperouge]

I would say that's pretty subjective. BM stalemated Kaido in a 3 day long fight. I don't think any joke or 'low-effort' fight would last that long. This translates to them being almost equal, at least imo.

She is close to him, she is a Yonko after all. But Kaido is the guy getting hyped as the strongest, bet on him in a 1 on 1, the big bad now. Differences between top tiers in general are small. Linlin fighting Kaido for that long shouldn't be surprising. Though it was off panel and they came out of it drinking and hugging and with a few bruises and forming an alliance. Sure seems good for Linlin, but Kaido has her beat in hype, portrayal and feats. It's not enough for us to now say they are equal. Close sure, but so are the other top tiers.

Also, even as a Shanks fanboy, I really don't think he has better portrayal than BM in terms of powerlevel. He has unbelievable hype but I don't think he has been that much exceptionaly praised as an individual fighter other than his duels with Mihawk when he was young.

>Shanks stopped Sakazuki dead in his tracks by just appearing there.
>Sakazuki who was deadset on eliminating all pirates and bloodthirsty

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>went from that to this face when Shanks appeared

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>and remained there in place whilst Shanks took a casual stroll over to pick up Luffy's hat, had a chitchat with Buggy

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>and didn't pull up when Shanks challenged everyone

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>but this was his face

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>In a previous chapter Shanks was there in the shadows of people who Kaido either took an L to, or views as extremely powerful.

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> We know that Shanks and Kaido met each other on Kaido's way to MF.
> The words clash and scuffle were used to describe their meeting, multiple times

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> And it was Shanks that showed up to MF and Kaido hauled his ass back to Wano.

> Had grandline shaking duels that are regarded as legends according to the man himself Whitebeard, with no other top tier fight being respected like that.

Sure Linlin herself is also hyped and strong, but Shanks moreso.

Even if you argue that BM is a swordsman and should there-by be weaker than the WSS Mihawk, the difference in power should be very very small.

Yes, but Shanks would fit in there. Mihawk regards Shanks as the man you need to reach and surpass in order to challenge Mihawk fully, not Mama or Fuji for example, which would mean Mihawk>Shanks>Mama/Fuji.

EoS Teach > Prime WB > Old WB (Still WSM, not former WSM) > Kaido >= Mihawk >= Big Mom >= Shanks > Current BB

I'd switch Shanks and Mama there tbh, but the rest makes sense with what we have so far. Also I assume old and healthy WB.

Wonder where Akainu stands here.

I'd place Sakazuki as I said earlier at the same level as Shanks. Wouldn't be surprised if he ends up being stronger than both Mihawk and Shanks or weaker than both, hence adding him in the middle so to say.

 

[Sword God Ryuma]

Two attacks, two chapters in a row, and Kaido still only acknowledges Enma....

Bro the jig is up. Stop it, nobody going for it no more. You got @Sadistic Senpai and @Master OF Haki having mental breadowns saying Oda is trash etc... Got @Red Admiral saying Zoro just that guy. The troll is over. No body with your BS anymore

 

[Formerly Seth]

Ok and Primebeard was scared by marineships than
WB era's not kaido, Kaido is unfortunate because this is luffys era

Let me get something straight.


You think Marineford WB poses a threat to Prime Kaido?

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Then again Xebec would have schooled Kaido if he got the chance to fight him off right now.

xebec was a swordsman, im getting bored of seeing swordsmen
Garp moveset is like bugress calling it too, projecting slashes like fist, kinda like night guy with honderua

 

[Batik4ever]

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You can upload pics there from phone, then all you have to do is copy the link and post it here through images.

Тnk u, bro

 

[kenedyfake]

Yeah easily says you

Let's see Mihawk beat a YC first

"Mihawk can replicate thid"

Why didn't Roger, WB, Ray, Navy do it then?

Stop giving Oden feats to Mihawk.
Oden did what nobody could
And he did it in one blow

Mihawk can't even onehsor pre ts Daz and pret ts Zoro.
Can't beat Luffy

"he will do this"

mihalwk will not replicate that at all, because his attack is much stronger than Oden's, so why replicate something that is inferior to you?

Mihalwk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Oden.

 

[Rekien]

Is it? I mean, yall were hyping up Zoro's last attack like if it connected Kaido was done for, and now here we are, Zoro full blown connects an attack with Santoryu and it's not even scarring potential. Shooting for the moon, but only reaching the ceiling.

delicious

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

You think Marineford WB poses a threat to Prime Kaido?

yes because oda never called prime kaido which is at marineford and hes a yonko the strongest pirate

 

[sidestreetboy]

If you also just fundamentally believe Shanks is the endgame antagonist (not villain. Theres a difference) due to being the only main character save for Luffy in chapter 1, then there's that too.

I'm not sure why people don't see the possibility. Mihawks only known pirate associate is Shanks. Mihawk now has no Shichibukai title, and the world is about to undergo a massive War. Which means he has to take a front in it, ala Shanks.

To me its very fitting if Mihawk and Shanks are Zoro and Luffys final fights respectively. It ties this manga full circle. Now the question really relies on Shanks' motivation and if it contradicts Luffy's. He is by far the most enigmatic character in the series.

What would be funny stemming from this would be the neverending Zoro/Mihawk vs Luffy/Shanks discussions if thats the case lmao

I have a hard time figuring out how Shanks being the final fight would be reconciled with WG falling last and BB fight(which seems to be the final fight in the PK saga).

I have thought about Shanks allying with BB before raftel, so we can have a Luffy vs BB, Zoro vs Shanks, Sanji vs Shiryu
but that seems a bit crazy lol

 

[Celestial D. Dragon]

Bro the jig is up. Stop it, nobody going for it no more. You got @Sadistic Senpai and @Master OF Haki having mental breadowns saying Oda is trash etc... Got @Red Admiral saying Zoro just that guy. The troll is over. No body with your BS anymore

I'm perfectly fine, because I know exactly where Zoro stands. You guys overwanking Zoro to high hell and back by grossly misunderstanding what's being portrayed, changes nothing.

 

[Indigo]

Old WB couldn't even hurt Aokiji or Kizaru to great effect, only really hurt Akainu by hiting him on the back, and even that wasn't enough to cause great damage.

Anything Old WB is throwing at Kaido, he's just tanking that shit with no problem whatsoever. Then Kaido starts beating the shit of that old man's body, and i don't see WB tanking that much from Kaido.

 

[Kromage911]

Green....

Marineford WB is shit against Prime Mom and Kaido.

We are not discussing Prime WB vs Prime Kaido.

In their primes I always put my money on WB.

We are talking about Old sick mofo WB.

Kaido would rape him.

Marineford Old sick mofo WB was still the WSM. Nowhere does it say that it's limited or even aimed at his Prime version. He was called the World's strongest man, not the former WSM like what Mihawk will be called after Zoro defeats him.

 

[Finalbeta]

xebec was a swordsman, im getting bored of seeing swordsmen
Garp moveset is like bugress calling it too, projecting slashes like fist, kinda like night guy with honderua

Was just saying that just like Roger can school Shanks, Xebec could have in all likelihood still schooled Kaido right now.

 

[kenedyfake]

Kaido is the hype of the moment, just as WB was and next year Shanks will be the owner of the hype. Temporary hypes. a

 

[GreenEggsAHam]

Old WB couldn't even hurt Aokiji or Kizaru to great effect, only really hurt Akainu by hiting him on the back, and even that wasn't enough to cause great damage.

Anything Old WB is throwing at Kaido, he's just tanking that shit with no problem whatsoever. Then Kaido starts beating the shit of that old man's body, and i don't see WB tanking that much from Kaido.

because the admirals are above the yonkos? LOL what you expect

Kaido wanted doffy who called wb unstopable Wb>Kaido at marineford

 

[KAIDO D. STRONGER]

The reason why WB and Mihawk have their tittles are they known as the strongest lol

Killer made a clear and direct statement of who the WSP was.
He did not use the word known or anything like that to raise doubts.
As long as Mihawk is a pirate, he will be below KAIDO.
"Our enemy is the strongest pirate in the world!"
@spawn

 

[Buusatan94]

Hope to see some Yonko/CP0 interactions.

 

[Indigo]

Marineford Old sick mofo WB was still the WSM. Nowhere does it say that it's limited or even aimed at his Prime version. He was called the World's strongest man, not the former WSM like what Mihawk will be called after Zoro defeats him.

And Kaido is called the World's Strongest Creature and that is > Strongest Man. Because a men are included in creatures.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Bro the jig is up. Stop it, nobody going for it no more. You got @Sadistic Senpai and @Master OF Haki having mental breadowns saying Oda is trash etc... Got @Red Admiral saying Zoro just that guy. The troll is over. No body with your BS anymore

I've been saying that Oda is trash since WCI, this chapter didn't wake me up, I saw Oda's writing quality go down since WCI arc (and to be honest I knew it even before WCI I just rejected the reality).

 

[Formerly Seth]

yes because oda never called prime kaido which is at marineford and hes a yonko the strongest pirate

Fam.

Marineford WB didn't even make Admirals sweat enough to consider him a big threat.

They didn't care about anything rather than maintaining the island.

How Admiral wanker like you can be dumb to prop WB who was hakiless?