Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[GreenEggsAHam]

Fanboys back then
"There won't be time travel"
"Magical swords doesn't exist"
"There won't be a god tier /kaguya level character "

Now
" Enma doesn't store haki"

Wait until Oda keeps Mentioning enma and Oden whenever zoro uses enma...

You guys think it's absurd that a sword which somehow can absorb haki, can't store someones haki?
When even swords can eat dfs Lol !

You got a sword eating a df but people think Enma storing haki is absurd especially after these past 2 chapters

it doesnt really matter you still need the strength to tame enma and to hurt kaido scales, he also has other swords

 

[Finalbeta]

Fanboys back then
"There won't be time travel"
"Magical swords doesn't exist"
"There won't be a god tier /kaguya level character "

Now
" Enma doesn't store haki"

Wait until Oda keeps Mentioning enma and Oden whenever zoro uses enma...

You guys think it's absurd that a sword which somehow can absorb haki, can't store someones haki?
When even swords can eat dfs Lol !

You got a sword eating a df but people think Enma storing haki is absurd especially after these past 2 chapters

They are different concepts Ndule.

You need a host to absorb haki, Oden is dead so his haki is gone.

If Zoro dropped Enma whilst Enma was sucking his haki, Enma would return normal and so Zoro's arm.

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Luffy needing help is a plot device, he needed Usopps help to get up and fight Lucci, he needed Nico Robins help to survive Crocodiles poision, he needed a transfusion against HODY ffs. Luffy gets help every arc, he also fights the toughest strongest enemy each arc, and by the end of the arc is considered by the world to be stronger than the person he beats fair and square.

Luffy is the one who made the alliance with Momo.
Luffy is the one who told Kin'emon he will put Wano on his back.
Luffy said he will overcome the yonko 400 chapters ago and restated it 3 chapters ago, Zoro is not outshining him on one of his main goals to becoming the pirate king.
Luffy isn't a chef, he is the one who beats up the person in the way of his dream/ his friends safety each arc.

Oda has been intentionally coy with Zoro's Wano heritage leaving it out to SBS and allusions for the most part, having his heritage be a higher plot point than all of the above at this stage would seem a little forced.

Red roc made Kaido bleed, do you think gattling was more or less powerful than red roc? It knocked kaido down and emphasis was put on each hit for 5 pages...

KGG didn't make Kaido bleed tho.
We aren't talking about Red Roc.

Also, do you really think Luffy comes out of Wano tougher and stronger than either Big Mom or Kaido?
And Zoro has connection to Wano since the first arc. But realistically since Thriller Bark, which is a solid parallel to Wano.

 

[gamaran]

For all the Zoro Haters who are die hard Sanji fans, Must be tough right now, since 997 the Ls are literally stacking up, i know if I was a die hard Sanji id be maddddd pisssed

What a zoro fan needs to climb to get a W :

VS

What a Sanji fan needs to climb to get a W :

 

[ShishioIsBack]

Stop. The attack that has done the most damage to Kaido outside of anything Luffy’s done in Gear 4 has been Luffy’s Red Roc, which is a Gear 3 attack. It was strong enough that Kaido, again, recalled Rocks, Roger, Whitebeard, Oden, and Shanks. After that it’s the Gamma Knife. Zoro is not on the level of Gear 4 in any aspect, be it power or speed. Saying otherwise is simply fanboy fanfiction.

Holy fucking shit
Some Luffy fans are actually reasonable, you are far from being one of them.

Why don't you learn your fucking less after being literally proven wrong every fucking time.

Santoryu Zoro shits on Boundman let alone Ashura

 

[Doggo]

Damn I hate Haki, Not even Chakra was this stupid

Haki is, BY FAR, the worst thing Oda has ever introduced in this story.
Worse than Oden.
The way he intentionally dont "fully explains" it so he can justify all the asspullin and retcons in its functionalities.
At least Togashi is sincere with his asspullings.
"Yo, see all these Nen categories? See how each of them work? Ok. There's a special one. What it does? Anything. Literally. If it doesnt fit the other 5, than its this one. When I create some weird ass abilities that wouldnt fit any of the other 5, you at least know there's this special category, so it doesnt seen out of nowhere".

Franky vs Sasaki is gonna be the best fight.
No Haki involved. Just sheer power vs inventions.
Fuck this convoluted ass trash power system.

 

[Charlotte Horchata]

I understand where you're getting at but I think you're digging too deep and over-complicating this unnecessarily.

Not really, from Big Mom telling Kaido to be careful to telling him to dodge there's a big difference and, in my opinion, the English version failed to translate it.

 

[Ravagerblade]

I’d say they should be pissed at Oda tbh.

yeah? That’s how weight training works, in this case Zoro trained with enma to be able to handle it but as he said he is still unable to fully unleash its power, it’s gonna come through the fight.

will it? or is that just willful thinking.

 

[LemonadeCandy]

Oden doesn't know what WB/Roger did but is a master Ryou user

Well we know that Oden got much stronger by the time he left the Roger pirates so he could have learned it in that time....

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Was Luffy's last attack before losing G4 KKG? If it was really KKG then G5 is inevitable lmao

Not really, from Big Mom telling Kaido to be careful to telling him to dodge there's a big difference and, in my opinion, the English version failed to translate it.

Context makes it pretty clear even if the translator made a mistake. And it's not just the English translator, so many of trusted fan translators as well as the official translators of the other languages agreed that she's telling him to dodge the attack.

 

[Jo_Ndule]

he didnt teach him more than the basics
he let luffy grow those in extreme battle.

pls read.... lol

He taught him basics but those teachings were more useful for him to unlock FS

While COa basics he taught him , luffy couldn't reach Adcoa/barrier on his own .

It makes sense anyway, Ray hyped FS more thus Oda used Rayleigh CoO teachings as foundation
While adCoA wasn't hyped by Ray...
Ray didn't bother even mentioning to Luffu that there is higher level of COa... luffy only remembers it by seeing Ray use it

 

[Geo]

Enma is the hardest Sword Zoro has had to tame yet.

That we agree on

 

[Blother Fertitta]

Exactly. That is something others are intentionally oushing the Agenda of the sword somehow having it's own haki without which Zoro won't be able to damage Kaido

This very chapter rubbishes such a claim because Zoro used 3 sword to cut Kaido

What can you do man, agenda's exist, and a lot of Zoro-fans can't explain how Enma works, which causes the problem.
This manga is geared toward 12-15 year olds. I don't see what's the difficulty understanding such a simple Sword "Gift"

 

[Zowo]

Was Luffy's last attack before losing G4 KKG? If it was really KKG then G5 is inevitable lmao

no it was kong gataling or what the fk name is

 

[Xlaw]

So much hype for Kaido 's hybrid form . I took L for thinking he doesn't have one , since he has fish model..
No one cared when XDrake transformed into hybrid lol

 

[Bogard]

Show me where it was stated that enma stores haki o yeah u can t because enma takes the haki an releases it nothing about storing
this shit shows u skipped chap 955

Fair enough. I just checked and there is no "absorption"(more like exuding the wielder's ryou) statement being made.

With that said, Zoro said to give it back

Suggesting Enma took it from him

 

[RayanOO]

in all fairness a black blade seems like close to the pinnacle
while fs not necessarily
you are comparing an ability /feat a yc has
to one mihawk , ryuuma had.

No imo he shouldnt make one this arc and if it does , it should be wado.

Yeah the first one Zoro should blacken on his own is Wado, the most symbolic one.

If he blackens Enma this arc this means the swords was close to it

 

[Guymieux]

You guys are literally stupid this is sad. Enma does not absorb haki it forces out the users ryou and cuts more . Also dead men don’t have haki . Haki is a power possess by living things . Can you morons learn how to read and stop talking nonsense for once ?

 

[Aknolagon]

Anyway we know that whatever Viz will say this Sunday, one side will be against it and the other side will defend Viz

 

[Guymieux]

Fair enough. I just checked and there is no "absorption"(more like exuding the wielder's ryou) statement being made.

With that said, Zoro said to give it back

Suggesting Enma took it from him

Yes it forces out ryou . Has nothing to do with it keeping it . Also dead men have no haki . Haki is a power living beings possess