Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion
- Thread starter Gol D. Roger
- Start date
- Tags #all hail monsterzoro #perona is the best girl #perona>ulti #yamato4nakama #zoro one shots your fave #zoro>>kidd grandgrandmaster mihawk top 1 killer>kidd king the background lanji died monsterzoro mr. steal yo women robin>nami ulti is best girl ulti>perona woronoa woro zkk zoro bodies zoro built different zoro the yonko slayer
- Status
Indeed, that shady aura is amazing 
. I wonder why it's only visible through Enma though. 
I'd assume that if it's the same haki that Zoro is infusing in all the blades, all the blades would have had the same aura, but only Enma has it.
. I wonder why it's only visible through Enma though. I'd assume that if it's the same haki that Zoro is infusing in all the blades, all the blades would have had the same aura, but only Enma has it.
Zoro : Wait! Wait ! Don't eat ...
Zoro : My captain!!
Zoro : Santoryu!
Kaido : hm ??
Kaido : This form of haki!!
Zoro : Kujou Ô Tatsumaki!!
Kaido : Uoooo!
Killer : (sorry the picture is cut)
Big Mom : That kid .. He managed to cut Kaido
Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?
Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"
We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.
So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same form of haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.
NO THERE IS NO HAKI OF ODEN HERE.
Get it right downplayers, no such thing as Oden's haki but the quality of Zoro's haki.
Big mom was surprised that Zoro cut Kaido and everything. She didn't mention anything about Kidd, Killer or Law's attacks though.
And right after Zoro countered Kaido's tatsumaki with one of his own Kaido went "oh so you did that to my attack? Let's see what you can do against this one then" and did a mixture of his Destructive Wind with his Tatsumaki just to see what Zoro can do against it but he had to carry Luffy so he couldn't do anything besides dodging.
Then Kaido went hybrid form and he did so not after Luffy's Kong Gattling but after Zoro's Kujou Otatsumaki.
Us Woro fans just can't stop getting Ws after Ws on a weekly basis even on the sbs lol
Zoro : My captain!!
Zoro : Santoryu!
Kaido : hm ??
Kaido : This form of haki!!
Zoro : Kujou Ô Tatsumaki!!
Kaido : Uoooo!
Killer : (sorry the picture is cut)
Big Mom : That kid .. He managed to cut Kaido
Kaido : Oh .. i see it's working! That's Oden katana ?
Kaido : To think you challenged me with Tatsumaki, Uerororo"
We talk with @ivaannom so before claiming lots of things, we agree that 正体 means form or identity.
So Kaido is seeing here that Zoro is using the same form of haki of Oden "Ryou", exactly like when the scabbards used Ryou on him. For Kaido who doesn't know anything about Ryou, he refers Ryou to Oden's haki. That's when Scabbard and Zoro used on him, he calls/sees that at Oden's haki. Also why he didn't understand how Luffy hurt him with Red Roc at first.
No there is no haki of Oden here.
NO THERE IS NO HAKI OF ODEN HERE.
Get it right downplayers, no such thing as Oden's haki but the quality of Zoro's haki.
Big mom was surprised that Zoro cut Kaido and everything. She didn't mention anything about Kidd, Killer or Law's attacks though.
And right after Zoro countered Kaido's tatsumaki with one of his own Kaido went "oh so you did that to my attack? Let's see what you can do against this one then" and did a mixture of his Destructive Wind with his Tatsumaki just to see what Zoro can do against it but he had to carry Luffy so he couldn't do anything besides dodging.
Then Kaido went hybrid form and he did so not after Luffy's Kong Gattling but after Zoro's Kujou Otatsumaki.
Us Woro fans just can't stop getting Ws after Ws on a weekly basis even on the sbs lol
Indeed, I’ll never recover from how hard Akainu low diffed the strongest Yonko
Akainu was scared shitless and didn’t want no smoke......same with BB and Sengoku.
WB STILL ragdolled Akainu. He only took a handful of crazy damage because he was sick.
The short story is:
Zoro will deal a lot more damage to Kaido per minute than vice versa (Zoro neutralises Kaido's entire offensive arsenal). It's solid high difficulty due to Kaido's durability, endurance and stamina.
I haven't heard any argument for how Dragon Kaido wins but:
People aren't addressing the severe ability mismatch here. Dragon!Kaido is legitimately hard countered offensively by Zoro, and Zoro can deal significant damage even with mid tier attacks.
@Admiral Lee Hung, @ShishioIsBack, @Sentinel, @playa4321, @comrade, @LANJI CUCKSMOKE, @Luffy is the mc.
- Zoro can neutralise his entire offensive arsenal
- Boro Breath gets sliced
- Demolition Gust gets deflected
- Zoro could even dodge it while carrying Luffy
- Thunder Roar is far too slow
- Scabbards (with their much worse reactions) dodged it.
- Zoro tanked a much stronger lightning attack (God of Lightning: Tenjin) from Mama
- Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki completely overwhelmed Kaido's Tatsumaki
- Trying to attack Zoro with his body is just asking to get sliced.
- Zoro's offensive prowess is comfortably above Kaido's durability.
- Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is a mid tier technique and it significantly damaged Kaido.
- It carved him up, and had him coughing up blood for 3 panels.
- Kaido, Mama and Kidd all commented on how Zoro hurt Kaido.
- It did far more damage to Kaido than to Kaku.
- He used it to clear fodder on Fishman Island
- Hiryuu Kaen has the portrayal to severely harm Kaido
- Kokujo Ou Tatsumaki is a mid tier technique and it significantly damaged Kaido.
Zoro will deal a lot more damage to Kaido per minute than vice versa (Zoro neutralises Kaido's entire offensive arsenal). It's solid high difficulty due to Kaido's durability, endurance and stamina.
I haven't heard any argument for how Dragon Kaido wins but:
- Zoro is fighting him in a 5 vs 1:
- Ignores that it's actually 5 vs 2
- Ignores that Law, Kidd and Killer have negligible damage output
- Ignores that Zoro has been babysitting Luffy throughout the fight
- He's rescued Luffy six times and of his 3 attacks directed at Kaido, 2 were counterattacks he executed while rescuing Luffy.
- 90% of Zoro's contribution has been saving Luffy
- Ignores that the Kaido they're fighting is not restricted to Dragon Form.
- In the latest chapter he went Hybrid.
- Kaido is stronger than Zoro, so Dragon!Kaido should be stronger.
- Not actually valid reasoning
People aren't addressing the severe ability mismatch here. Dragon!Kaido is legitimately hard countered offensively by Zoro, and Zoro can deal significant damage even with mid tier attacks.
@Admiral Lee Hung, @ShishioIsBack, @Sentinel, @playa4321, @comrade, @LANJI CUCKSMOKE, @Luffy is the mc.
I was seeing Zoro fans saying that it was taxing on him after last chapter. I don't feel strongly about it either way. Just make sure you stay consistent and don't try to excuse him being tired/spent in the near future.
Of course the tie with Kaido through Oden is there. He's going to be the one to open Kaido's scar. He's the "monster Samurai" that KAido told the Scabbards will not be born again.
I don't know cuz there are too many options to be worth speculating one way or another. This match-up always made most sense for me as Zoro's 1 vs 1 fight for Wano, so i'm not ditching it until the end. If i'm wrong i'm wrong, we will see how things play out
Of course the tie with Kaido through Oden is there. He's going to be the one to open Kaido's scar. He's the "monster Samurai" that KAido told the Scabbards will not be born again.
I don't know cuz there are too many options to be worth speculating one way or another. This match-up always made most sense for me as Zoro's 1 vs 1 fight for Wano, so i'm not ditching it until the end. If i'm wrong i'm wrong, we will see how things play out
What's this nonsense? You think I am a Sanji fan or something and be mad at this? 
Delusional.
Delusional.
Sure LOL...it works perfectly for you. See why I don't want to reply back to you?
Zoro was against the big Bitch and he managed to save Luffy successfully, but your boy was against her little brats and couldn't save him if his brothers didn't intervene.
I ended this conversation with one pic from chapter 897.
- Status