Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1003 Spoilers Discussion

[Finalbeta]

Yeah this guy has to be a troll. I sense nothing but zoro wank with 0 logic.

“Zoro offensively overpowers Kaido’s durability” now you’re just reaching.

one of the most pathetic attempts of powerscaling possible.

Zoro would have in all likelihood scarred Kaido via Hiryuu Kaen.

Silver Mist > ISDS > Hiryuu Kaen at least conceptually.

You can do the math.

 

[Patryipe]

Killer wounds Kaido's internal organs with a sound. He was unable to pierce Kaido's skin. He's a weakling. Apoo could not soundly defeat Snack with a 600 million bounty. Cracker costs 860. Are you a fool?

LOL, dude, if Killer can bypass Kaido's skin he can bypass Cracker's biscuit and that's bye bye for Cracker.

 

[Batik4ever]

I'm not a "Kid" fan. This move will anhiliate Cracker instantly. His endurance is too shit.

Cracker is a one trick pony who found a good matchup with 1-dimensional fighters like Luffy/Urouge. Anyone like Killer, Law, Kid, Doffy, etc... will insta wreck him.

His powers are instantly dismantled with more Hax.

2, 3, and 4 gears were unable to land a single hit on Cracker when Doflamingo was hit by them. You're a fool.

 

[ZoroSlaysDragonTuna]

I've seen your comments before. You wank Sanji a lot.
Stop denying that you're a Sanji fan.

I will explain why he wanks sanji alot, Its because he something in common with sanji fans, They both keep having meltdowns because Zoro is outshining their Favorite character. So they defend each other ( him and sanji fans) because on their own they cant measure a single W for their character over zoro, But they think that if they defend each other they can overpower Zoro fans. Unfortunately for them Zoro is OP and keeps taking wins and Both their fanbases combined are a fraction of Zoros fan base.

 

[Batik4ever]

LOL, dude, if Killer can bypass Kaido's skin he can bypass Cracker's biscuit and that's bye bye for Cracker.

The cookies will not be damaged by themselves. If Cracker sends 1 empty Soldier, it will be easy. Killer weakling

 

[Cross_Marian]

Sure i see that also. When Zoro gets something negative somewhere, the same people come up and spread toxicity from the other side and i am tired of that too. Honestly, i get headache thinking about the next weeks when (just in my opinion) zoro will fall against Kaido (which wouldnt be something to blame anyway, cause he is doing impressive right now!), the trolling against the zoro fandom comes up again.

But this is a circle. Zoro gets hype, zoro fandom gets toxic AF, Zoro gets dehyped, zoro haters get toxic AF. The main situation right now is just, the zoro fandom in our forum is way bigger then real haters (and i mean trolling haters, not people who just arent big zoro fans), thats why the toxicity right now is, in my opinion, even bigger. Just look at the numbers on strange zoro thread the last days. Also i lost counting how much insults and provocations me alone deleted here and i am absolutely not the most active moditing person in this thread.

So yes, i absolutely see the other side being toxic AF too when the parallel situation occurs, and i am tired of that too. But one toxicity doesnt make the other one better or more acceptable.


Edit: Also, in my opinion, overhyping will always lead into a massive backslash. So claiming now for example Zoro would Mid Diff Kaido right now (someone claimed it the last days), will automaticaly lead into a massive backslash when it gets debunked.

This forum is full of toxicity, this is as you said an endless circle. I’m a big Zoro fan but I understand you points. I’m gonna be honest that I have an urge to defend Zoro against trolls and I think that this is normal as a fan but it could be really stressing for other fandoms to read 1000 of messages about this discussion or topic.

 

[Zolo]

Baseless. All we know is that Kin'emon wouldn't touch it.[/QUO

I dont dare to do certain things too, but when I try them it seems fine ... Just becouse you are afraid to do something doesnt mean you cant

 

[Guymieux]

I dont dare to do certain things too, but when I try them it seems fine ... Just becouse you are afraid to do something doesnt mean you cant

What a bozo .

 

[Erkan12]

I've seen your comments before. You wank Sanji a lot.
Stop denying that you're a Sanji fan.

You will force me to be a Sanji fan huh? If I have to choose Zoro or Sanji I would choose Sanji. That doesn't mean I am a Sanji fan lmao. I probably defend Luffy more.

You said you will ignore me after getting debunked then what happened? You keep posting and can't handle losing and trying to piss me off with that Sanji lowball? Too bad it didn't work.

 

[Buusatan94]

Oh no I would hate that but who knows what will happen, Odas inner thoughts are complex and weird

I can't see Big Mom's story ending in Wano with her being present at the same time than Kaido who's another Yonko, which is too much for the Straw Hats and their allies, with her being so far from her home island and Elbaf and the great majority of her crew and children (including Katakuri, Pudding, Brûlée, Streuse, Tamago) being absent and with her issues with the giants still being unresolved and her having no onscreen interactions with them either.

And the fact it was highlighted several times that her original personality is a kind and helpful one both during her flashback and her amnesia tell me that Oda plans somehow to make her return to what she should have been and become instead of the mentally unstable and cruel woman she has become under Mother Carmel and Streusen's parenthood. Besides Katakuri may become an ally of Luffy and the new captain of the Big Mom Pirates and head of the Charlotte Family but I have trouble seeing this happening with some of his siblings, whose protection and well-being are Katakuri's main motivation, being defeated and possibly imprisonned due to the Straw Hats.

It's not that I like how Oda uses Big Mom and how he may turn her nice again but that seems to be the direction in which he's heading with Charlotte Linlin.

 

[T.D.A]

 

[Kuroemon]

So enma is a power up for Zoro i agree, but it still uses Zoro's haki, IMO it just that enma can succ more out of his haki than the other 2 swords..

If i imagine haki has a capacity or number, maybe something like the other 2 swords can succ out of his 1000 haki each, then enma can succ out of his 10000 haki so the damage from enma is far greater.. but it still uses Zoro's haki, not Oden

 

[Vanlax]

Reread 790 and 837 Chapters.Doffy is really weak.


And another, when Doffy VS 2 and 3 gear.

I've re-read them.
Gear 4 trashed Doffy. Gear 4 Luffy had problems with Cracker and needed Nami's help.
Sure if its against Luffy, Cracker did better.
That's why I said it was a matchup issue. (I've said this the 3rd time now. I'm hoping you're getting my point.)
I would still put Doffy above Cracker 'cause of the utility of his DF (he can 'fly') and the birdcage.
If it's not for the OP birdcage I won't do this.

 

[Oblivion]

do you think enma lets zoro use level 2 armament?

 

[Red Admiral]

still funny​

 

[ErionRoronoa]

You will force me to be a Sanji fan huh? If I have to choose Zoro or Sanji I would choose Sanji. That doesn't mean I am a Sanji fan lmao. I probably defend Luffy more.

You said you will ignore me after getting debunked then what happened? You keep posting and can't handle losing and trying to piss me off with that Sanji lowball? Too bad it didn't work.

You said you would choose Sanji. Okay, that's a good first step. Cmon....you can do more. I'm proud of you.
It's not that hard, see?.... step by step until you'll admit that you're a Sanji fan in the first place.

 

[Batik4ever]

I've re-read them.
Gear 4 trashed Doffy. Gear 4 Luffy had problems with Cracker and needed Nami's help.
Sure if its against Luffy, Cracker did better.
That's why I said it was a matchup issue. (I've said this the 3rd time now. I'm hoping you're getting my point.)
I would still put Doffy above Cracker 'cause of the utility of his DF (he can 'fly') and the birdcage.
If it's not for the OP birdcage I won't do this.

OMG
1. Doffy is the center of the cell. It will not help in battle.
2. Doffy has a weak Haki of Armament, he also showed a weak Haki of Observation. His priority was DF - that's his words.
3. Cracker has Arma Haki stronger than Doffy. His Observation Haki helped him against 4-gear speed. His DF is better developed - Cracker also showed awakening, but Oda did not focus on this well. Look at the ground, it's made of cookies, and it also has an almost endless army.
4. If he gives each Soldier 8 arms - 4 swords and 4 shields + 4 legs, then Doflamingo will quickly lose. Cracker was foolishly drained. He is stronger than Doflamingo.

 

[Erkan12]

You said you would choose Sanji. Okay, that's a good first step. Cmon....you can do more. I'm proud of you.
It's not that hard, see?.... step by step until you'll admit that you're a Sanji fan in the first place.

I would also choose Aokiji instead of Akainu is that mean I am an Aokiji fan? You can try something else to lowball Sanji and I wouldn't care This is a terrible losing mentality, its not good for you, just take your Ls about Zoro not blocking Big mom and be happy about it.

 

[Chaves]

The fight on the roof should end in the next chapter, and then in volume 99 we have the definitive fight of mugiwaras vs tobi roppos

Furthermore, Robin and Brook did not appear in the chapter, Sanji and Jinbe so wrapped up with opponents that they are not their real opponents of the arc, so in the next chapter Oda should clarify the machups

Usopp vs Pageone
Nami vs Ulti
Robin vs Black Maria
Brook vs Who's Who
Franky vs Sasaki
Chopper vs ???

 

[T.D.A]

do you think enma lets zoro use level 2 armament?

Maybe, a possible translation to Kaido's line is

"The true nature of haki!!" btw