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i figured that you'd bring up page... but he's a hand to hand combatant tho.. still he isn't the main opponent of the arc.. so is the case with Drake tho both got pummeled.. just like zoro fought monet.. and the 2 giants in punk hazard..and i'd argue they the same like i did with sanji that they were the main pponents of the arc.......and about king being a swordsman just coz he has a sword... that the most DiMWITTED thing in this thread.. even queen has a sword or 2...but he didn't use it.. u can still make a case for jack.. but fighting swordsmen is sanji's forte anyway.. plus the only attacks king has done have been with kicks and beak...his sword was shot out of his had.. and he didn't bother picking it up during his encounter with sanji.. or its a drawing error.. if it is it confirmed that he isn't a true swordsman since if he was then the illustrator must be nuts not to draw his sword.. so that argument is baseless

I think its pretty hard for you to understand what i said... i said idm queen vs sanj.. plus i wasn't even talking about physique i was talking about set combat skills... reread what i said.. and just like i aforementioned idm queen vs sanji.. and i wasn't trigger by the fact that queen is gon fight sanji coz he's a queer.. . i was trigger by the fact that an irrelevant sanji from 2 years ago who turned into a queer was used as an argument to justify what they said.. the reason why i hate that is obvious.. its irrelevant... sanji ain't a queer.. a man looses his pride as a man if he turns a queer so its abdominal to lump sanji into that category.. and i think i have said ample...
drake never got pummeled by sanji
 
Nope because Zoro trained his whole life to get to ashura ( until the point he used it once) you dont need to train a devil fruit at all to use it at its base level, Yeah you can improve it and improve your technique but you still get a big boost for just consuming it. Ashura is a technique not a power up. He didnt eat a devil fruit and suddenly got ashura, He trained until he was able to use ashura. Like i said Luffy consumed the DF and was able to deflect bullets instantly as a small child. Sabo and BB proved that they dont even need to train a DF to use it at a high level. Can someone just do ashura from nothing? consume it? no that makes it a technique not a power up.
no lol, ashura pulled out of nowhere....how do you explain ashura? how lifting weights will get you ashura like three heads and 9 swords? Zoro is so far identified as a normal human....the one you are talking about is BOAT which he got in mid fight and was explained properly....but ashura, d, g2 and g3 were instant powerups....g2/g3 were explained but mechanics behind ashura and dj were still unknown...
 
you are talking the same thing....Luffy getting DF in his childhood is not the biggest powerup the same way Zoro getting Enma....but Luffy getting any other DF like fire, yami, quake etc. is definitely the biggest ever powerup...Luffy was only immune to blunt attacks but sharp objects still hurt him but getting logia literally makes you nearly invincible in grandline....Gomu gomu powerup is same as Zoro getting graded sword....graded swords generate high attack output but need to be mastered same way some DF need to be mastered....both swords and DF will give you powerup and you have to master it to be able to "unlock" its potential....
No i explained why
Df> any other power up in the story
 
no lol, ashura pulled out of nowhere....how do you explain ashura? how lifting weights will get you ashura like three heads and 9 swords? Zoro is so far identified as a normal human....the one you are talking about is BOAT which he got in mid fight and was explained properly....but ashura, d, g2 and g3 were instant powerups....g2/g3 were explained but mechanics behind ashura and dj were still unknown...
Its a technique not a power up. Ashura is a technique.

Technique doesnt equal powerup
 
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I didn't called sanji a queer so don't put me in the bracket. Just said queen is interested about germa and judge and he is also a science guy.

Funny, you are saying sanji vs king because of their looks and kicks but when people say the same thing about sanji fighting goofy characters and queer people, it's wrong ? both side are saying the same shit = you based on physique and the other side based on personality/physique.

Again idgaf about queen or king vs sanji, but you saying "he might beat jack which i actually think he is capable of (mid high diff) i said clearly that after facing Jack he'll either face king or queen... " is the issue. We don't even know if he is capable to take hybrid jack and you think he can mid diffs him and take king or queen, and i'm the one who is reading two piece ? LMAO!

"Oda does give a shit about fighting styles, stop watching 2 piece lad.." and "in Post timeskio thing aren't as linear as pre time skip.." first step agree with yourself because you are saying opposite things. Didn't know P1 was a martial artist .. and you know what ? King has also a sword and confirmed to be a swordsman but he is fighting Marco and you even think Sanji will face him so actually you ignore what you don't like and take what you like :milaugh:
Oda can do whatever he wants ...
and to say that you don't give a Fuc* about queen vs sanji... and the proceeding to waste your time trying state that queen should fight sanji... is contradiction.. nothing i said contradicted my own claims.. what a waste of timE JEEZES.
 
Nah, if stupid explanations count, then Asura got one too.

Gears are the biggest asspull by far. It seems lately Luffy gets a new form every damn fight where he strugles, its getting ridiculous. Gear two, gear third, Boundman, Tankman, snakeman....
everything related to g4 he developed in timeskip....
 

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anime > manga in this case since it elaborated more on how sanji could easily get away from drake... if it contradicted the story's mechanism oda would have intervened.. he did't and plus in SBShe mentioned he has his personal editor checking such scenarios
anime isn't canon tho
 
idk about yall but I'm here for my SanBin moment.

Every SanBin moment thus far:











Sanji is really having "cool" moments, but they aren't that cool if we compare him with any other strawhat in general (Except Chopper, Sanji and Chopper are at the moment the clowns of the crew).
His moments are cool for his character, but this wasn't the moment for this.
"Tomorrow" we all would have forgotten this moment.

And this confidence with their Nakamas make him a better character OFC, but we already seen this with Nami and Usopp... NAMI, Sanji leaving NAMI with USOPP!!!...
 

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Sanji is really having "cool" moments, but they aren't that cool if we compare him with any other strawhat in general (Except Chopper, Sanji and Chopper are at the moment the clowns of the crew).
His moments are cool for his character, but this wasn't the moment for this.
"Tomorrow" we all would have forgotten this moment.

And this confidence with their Nakamas make him a better character OFC, but we already seen this with Nami and Usopp... NAMI, Sanji leaving NAMI with USOPP...
Can't compare chopper to sanji right now because at least chopper is being useful to the alliance
 
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