Who is this "Oden"?


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You mean to say that Oda values plot over powerscale?



To be fair, that's a lost cause.
Shounen fans brain only work with powerscaling.
The "his power level is over X value" syndrome.
It's really funny to challenge the many baseless cognitive shortcuts many power scalers follow blindly. This whole Marco situation regarding King and Queen is a prime example; even if we don't really assure anything about their strength, many (if not most) of the debates around this topic are rooted on the idea that YC1 is actually a thing by itself and that Marco should be in that tier alongside King because they're both "right hand men" (let's assume King is Kaido's strongest subordinate because of card hierarchy), even though Marco may be simply higher in the strength continuum and that's it. This is exactly the reason why some users, sensing yet not fully accepting that "YC" may not be valid categories, need to come up with stuff like YC0, YC1.5 or YC4.
 
Best part about this chapter is throwing away that "Ice Oni Drake" vs Chopper BS.
Love to see it.
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It actually still doesn't really detract it. You can just change "Ice Oni" to virtually any other possibility that Drake may or not be forced to fight chopper by some other virus or power.

At this point, Chopper potentially fighting Drake is still fair game because we don't really know what's happening at all with Drake this arc.
 
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You tell them facts :
It is mostly King who exhausted Marco based on chapter 1004 and 1005
That Queen wasn't really fighting Marco, he was targeting others
It was mostly 1v1 between King and Marco than 1v2

Fanboys " Marco fought both for 40 min"
When in reality it is Marco who keeps sneak attacking Queen (who is after Chopper and co)
King never said in chapter 1004 or in chapter 1005 " we are busy " instead "im busy" while we see Queen nowhere to be found then we se him targeting Hyou and co in ch1006

Just cause you saw Marco attack both last chapter and land hits doesn't mean the battle was 1v2 for the most part offscreen.

Now Marco with Chopper gets to 2v1 Queen

These guys still don't know about powerscaling

I said in back in 2017/2018,
Calamities and Kaido's vets will be below SCs and Ministers.
I didn't expect them to be this trash though

I even think Tamago can push P1/Ulti to high high diff But you aren't ready for it

Marco is overrated, this battle against Calamities isn't impressive when you realise how Queen hasn't been minding Marco that much.
On top of that, no calamity has used named attacks or haki.

Cracker ~ Pre fs Luffy ~ Doffy >= Marco/King
Whether you like it or not
Marco: "holding back two foes with bounties over a billion isn't easy"

Marco to Queen: "I'm your opponent, remember?"

Queen to Marco: "What a persistent wretch!"


Queen momentarily diverted his attention to Hyou who was causing heavy casualties to his crew, Marco simply reminded him to focus up.
 
zoro is more ryuma than rayleigh if any parallel was to be made
I find the whole thing in general forced.
Yes he’s like Ryuma but position wise he’s like Rayleigh , first mate and right hand of the future pirate king. Of course they are not paralleling each other in every manner and that’s good. There should be differences between the two crews, I hate this chosen one and exact copy shit. Every character needs to be unique
 
I wrote on Oro Jackson something like "by the time Wano is over, you're going to see how much you've been overrating the fuck out of Yonko Commanders".

Luffy beat Cracker and he didn't even care. He was more concerned with Sanji. That's not a major villain. If a Commander is a big boy, Oda will give him CoC like Katakuri/Joker.
 

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I have wondered for a long time who will be the member of Beast Pirates that Chopper will end up fighting...
It had to be a proper Zoan who would get jealous of Chopper's abilities of being able to transform 7 times.
It has to be someone who understood, at least to some degree, what Rumble balls are doing.

I have dismissed the only character fitting those requirements because I thought he would fight someone else.
It is Queen himself. He will see the benefit of Rumble balls and want them for Kaido's forces.
He understands it to some degree, possibly, because he seems a scientist himself.

Proper Zoan, cybernetic enhancements, knows another scientist Vinsmoke Jajji...
Chopper's main fight this arc has to be Queen. Now, whether Sanjino will help him out in that fight or not, remains to be seen.
Either way, go Chopper, you mad tanuki! :yearight:
 
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