Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1009 Spoilers Discussion

[sanjikun]

It was never stated that physical contact had to be made. That was peoples head canon. Did the admirals not use their haki to create a forcefield to block the power of whitebeard?

Did smoker not tell tashigi in punk hazard not to enter laws room because her HAKI was strong enough? Armament is offense and defense. If it's offense allows you to hit intangible logias I would only imagine that it's defense would allows your to protect yourself from intangible devil fruit attacks

Yeah, they're blasting Haki. It's still making contact.

Did smoker not tell tashigi in punk hazard not to enter laws room because her HAKI was strong enough? Armament is offense and defense. If it's offense allows you to hit intangible logias I would only imagine that it's defense would allows your to protect yourself from intangible devil fruit attacks

Law CUT her. That was what the warning was about. We know Haki can stop "severing powers". That's physical contact.

Haki not only use to stop attacks. It literally makes logia tangible. Its stated to be a counter measure to DF.

You're still not understanding the "physical contact" part. It actually has to TOUCH someone.

 

[humanbeing]

I think DF has its origins in haki. maybe even the haki of died D people. that is why Haki is a counter to them.
cursed sword as well, so in a way Zoro having Oden's sword is like having a DF.

 

[executor partner]

Ndule will come back the chapter where Peros sneaks Marco who then gets overwhelmed by King and queen, pretending that all of this never happened.

"July 2021"



Dude's out there liking posts. He's probably one of those anonymous visitors waiting for the chapter he can push his agenda with​

Lmao

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Nope. Did not counter this

It clearly bypassed his skin, since Law was looking for the location of his organs. So no Haki can't bypass everything.

We saw with Barto's DF too

There are clear instances where Haki cannot counter DF.

OH so law was able to destroy kaidos organs? I mean why would durability matter when laws fruit bypasses durability. And yet his gamma knife was still unable to be lethal. Why because kaidos haki blocked the brunt of his devil fruit that bypasses durability

 

[humanbeing]

Kaido and BM have their Haki activated maybe the whole time anyway and even more when they are in battle. I think activated haki is what makes for Law impossible to do anything.

 

[Master OF Haki]

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Are pushing your own interpretation of my question? I wanted to know what Luffy fans, and spiceficly Luffy fans think about it. If I wanted to ask about Yonkos I would have addressed my question to everyone.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

When have Zoro and Law fought?



Lmao

hes talking about when zoro turns to law and says hey use your powers on me i will let you throw me up there and then law t hrows him up there. its like saying the hurricane is really strong because he chokeslammed the rock. you can let people do moves to you and not block on purpose lmfao

 

[LolonoisZolo]

Mate, you're making PHYSICAL contact. That's the whole point of ARMAMENT haki. Teleportation you're not making any contact. In fact, it's used to help out allies.

Let alone the fact like I mentioned, Haki is stated to be FINITE. You can't turn it on 24/7. That's why you APPLY Haki.

Alright I'll try to adress all your points from the ''knowledge'' I have :
It was never stated that it has to be ''physical'' contact; It just says that it is a barrier against DF powers. Like I mentionned in my previous post, it by passes or blocks DF. We also don't know how Law's ''TP'' works, we just know it is DF. Enough to conclude it can be countered by COA.

Haki is ''finite'' but like everything else, the word is relative. Finite in comparaison to what ? Who is the Baromètre ? All we know is that whatever it is BM and Kaidi have TONS of it, in fact they were literaly born with it at ''max'' level, at least confirmed for BM.

 

[vikas]

Its almost as Oda regrets creating some convoluted DFs and doesn't want to think much on how they work.
So he just throws the "haki counter" there and hope that someone will pull the Rayleigh panels and defend his dumb ideas.

Seems to work pretty well, actually. LMAO.

And now this is opening door to more things he couldn't give answers to.

 

[sanjikun]

OH so law was able to destroy kaidos organs? I mean why would durability matter when laws fruit bypasses durability. And yet his gamma knife was still unable to be lethal. Why because kaidos haki blocked the brunt of his devil fruit that bypasses durability

Dude, wtf are you talking about? Either he blocks it or doesn't. Now you're simply making excuses.

And please explain this

But Oden can't cut through this

Oden's Haki was strong enough to cut the most durable thing in One Piece, but can't counter the barrier. Kaido still fears "Oden's Haki".

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Mate, you're making PHYSICAL contact. That's the whole point of ARMAMENT haki. Teleportation you're not making any contact. In fact, it's used to help out allies.

Let alone the fact like I mentioned, Haki is stated to be FINITE. You can't turn it on 24/7. That's why you APPLY Haki.

bro we just had a whole ass prison scene about how armament haki isnt physical and can be projected out of your body and blow things up from the inside and shit. its a field of energy around your body like every other shonen anime like nen or ki

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You're still not understanding the "physical contact" part. It actually has to TOUCH someone.

no it doesnt

 

[sanjikun]

bro we just had a whole ass prison scene about how armament haki isnt physical and can be projected out of your body and blow things up from the inside and shit. its a field of energy around your body like every other shonen anime like nen or ki

Haki blasts are still CONTACT. It's like Ki in Dragon Ball.

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

Dude, wtf are you talking about? Either he blocks it or doesn't. Now you're simply making excuses.

And please explain this

But Oden can't cut through this

Oden's Haki was strong enough to cut the most durable thing in One Piece, but can't counter the barrier. Kaido still fears "Oden's Haki".

the barrier is specifically a fruit that blocks everything. "it wouldnt be much of a barrier if you could break it."- barto

 

[sanjikun]

the barrier is specifically a fruit that blocks everything. "it wouldnt be much of a barrier if you could break it."- barto

LOOOOL. You see the hypocrisy here? DFs are COUNTERED by Haki no?

Oden has world class Haki, enough for Kaido to shit his pants 20 years later, can't COUNTER random Barrier Barrier no Mi user?

 

[Ssg super suit coby]

Yeah, they're blasting Haki. It's still making contact.



Law CUT her. That was what the warning was about. We know Haki can stop "severing powers". That's physical contact.



You're still not understanding the "physical contact" part. It actually has to TOUCH someone.

All cap. Especially the law one. So let me ask you a question. Why the hell hasn't used his devil fruit to switch bodies of bigmom and kaido? Why did law have to beat smoker first before being able to switch bodies with tashigi and smoker? Law doesn't need to severe tashigi to destroy her in his room. Which was smokers point. It was you individuals with head canon that deduced it was only SEVERING powers

 

[Doggo]

Problem with Haki is that Oda couldnt simply copy and paste "Nen" explanation.
But Haki is nothing more than just discount Nen.

At least Togashi threw right at the beginning that "Specialist" is the "I can create any kind of power I want and it won't contradict shit".
Oda just creates more BS as he goes. :D

 

[ArturCantSpeakJapanese]

LOOOOL. You see the hypocrisy here? DFs are COUNTERED by Haki no?

Oden has world class Haki, enough for Kaido to shit his pants 20 years later, can't COUNTER random Barrier Barrier no Mi user?

garp and roger could tag team punch + sword strike the barrier user and not break it. the barrier fruit has ONE MOVE. you cant break the barrier. thats it.

 

[Master OF Haki]

Ok, you guys forced me to do this.

 

[sanjikun]

All cap. Especially the law one. So let me ask you a question. Why the hell hasn't used his devil fruit to switch bodies of bigmom and kaido? Why did law have to beat smoker first before being able to switch bodies with tashigi and smoker? Law doesn't need to severe tashigi to destroy her in his room. Which was smokers point. It was you individuals with head canon that deduced it was only SEVERING powers

I've stated since Dressrosa that Law's power is too broken, and Oda needs constant logic loopholes and to nerf it.

For example, let's say Law is strong enough to shambles Doflamingo

Why not switch Doflamingo's personality? His Haki is not strong enough to protect like Kaido/BM right? Just switch his personality.

garp and roger could tag team punch + sword strike the barrier user and not break it. the barrier fruit has ONE MOVE. you cant break the barrier. thats it.

So you can't counter it with Haki?

 

[CbShadow]

Dude, wtf are you talking about? Either he blocks it or doesn't. Now you're simply making excuses.

And please explain this

But Oden can't cut through this

Oden's Haki was strong enough to cut the most durable thing in One Piece, but can't counter the barrier. Kaido still fears "Oden's Haki".

Oden it's not a good example because he doesn't understand devil fruit. You know he never use haki against it.

You still misunderstand what I'm saying. Haki doesn't stop you from using a df. It can just be used to counter your powers.

Haki doesn't turn Luffy's body from rubber to a normal body. It can just be used to hurt him a counter the effects.

Law stated he's been using his powers but their haki is too powerful for him to move. Haki didn't stop him from using his powers.