Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1018 Spoilers Discussion
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Kinemon isn´t>Izo, beeing the leader because of the 20years ago doesn´t make him stronger.
Or do you want me say Izo didn´t get any stronger since 20years like Ashura,Denjiro and Inu?
Law and Kid shit theiir pants by seeing how Jinbe join Luffy.
Doffy and Jinbe play around same lvl as I said before, between these four Shichibukai, the different aren´t large(Doffy,Kuma,Boa and Jinbe).
Or do you want me say Izo didn´t get any stronger since 20years like Ashura,Denjiro and Inu?
Law and Kid shit theiir pants by seeing how Jinbe join Luffy.
Doffy and Jinbe play around same lvl as I said before, between these four Shichibukai, the different aren´t large(Doffy,Kuma,Boa and Jinbe).
If the chapter ends or 1019 begins with Jinbe walking away from WsW's unconscious body, then its over. But only if that is the case. If it's just a big name move and we see WsW white eyed, it doesn't imply he's defeated. Here are some examples:
- Chapter 404: "Franky vs Fukuro"
- Chapter 405: "Power" literally is more of their fight, it does not end. Franky gets the longest fight at Enies Lobby outside of Luffy.
- Chapter 406: "Life Return" Few pages for Franky, some transition, rest for Chopper
Notice the difference between Fukuro being launched and being in the ground white eyed. The latter is a reaction to him being defeated.
- Chapter 414: "Sanji vs Jabra"
Example of no reaction from the villain
- Chapter 415: "Heat Up"
Example of Sanji using his best move against Jabra at the time, no reaction. This "could" support Jinbe winning, but this was after the vs chapter and Sanji's victory wasn't shown until 416:
Jabra and Sanji also had a satisfactory level of actions against each other to finish the fight.
Chapter 416: "Zoro vs Kaku"
Ends with a stare down
Chapter 417: "Asura"
Ends with his final move
But isn't shown he won until 418
These are just examples from Enies Lobby, but this case for Vs Chapters exists in other arcs, especially Thriller Bark and Punk Hazard. Virtually all of Luffy's fights end like this. Certain arcs, like DR, almost entirely lack Vs Chapters for the final battles. This was noted by the fact that most of the allies fighting were not strawhats, but the future strawhat fleet. Oda gave most members a signdicant moment and dedicated 1 chapter to each of them. Zoro and Franky still 2-3 dedicated chapters of fighting that arc. Franky had a big portion of his major fight in 755, then fought with Senor over 20 Chapters, THEN defeated him in another dedicated chapter in 775.
Tldr: There are way too many factors to determine if Jinbe is done with WsW, but chances are it's not over because:
- Most strawhat fights are at least 2 Chapters
- Vs Chapters usually do not end in a Victor, outside of the strict 1 chapter battles in Skypiea. Luffy's battles never follow this pattern either. He could have his vs chapter with the villain 10/20 Chapters before.
- WsW has barely shown off anything unique save for 3 moves, including this chapter. Everything else is typical rokushiki. He's also an ancient zoan who can recover immensely fast. Recall the 2 times Ulti recovered this arc already.
- Chapter 404: "Franky vs Fukuro"
- Chapter 405: "Power" literally is more of their fight, it does not end. Franky gets the longest fight at Enies Lobby outside of Luffy.
- Chapter 406: "Life Return" Few pages for Franky, some transition, rest for Chopper
Notice the difference between Fukuro being launched and being in the ground white eyed. The latter is a reaction to him being defeated.
- Chapter 414: "Sanji vs Jabra"
Example of no reaction from the villain
- Chapter 415: "Heat Up"
Example of Sanji using his best move against Jabra at the time, no reaction. This "could" support Jinbe winning, but this was after the vs chapter and Sanji's victory wasn't shown until 416:
Jabra and Sanji also had a satisfactory level of actions against each other to finish the fight.
Chapter 416: "Zoro vs Kaku"
Ends with a stare down
Chapter 417: "Asura"
Ends with his final move
But isn't shown he won until 418
These are just examples from Enies Lobby, but this case for Vs Chapters exists in other arcs, especially Thriller Bark and Punk Hazard. Virtually all of Luffy's fights end like this. Certain arcs, like DR, almost entirely lack Vs Chapters for the final battles. This was noted by the fact that most of the allies fighting were not strawhats, but the future strawhat fleet. Oda gave most members a signdicant moment and dedicated 1 chapter to each of them. Zoro and Franky still 2-3 dedicated chapters of fighting that arc. Franky had a big portion of his major fight in 755, then fought with Senor over 20 Chapters, THEN defeated him in another dedicated chapter in 775.
Tldr: There are way too many factors to determine if Jinbe is done with WsW, but chances are it's not over because:
- Most strawhat fights are at least 2 Chapters
- Vs Chapters usually do not end in a Victor, outside of the strict 1 chapter battles in Skypiea. Luffy's battles never follow this pattern either. He could have his vs chapter with the villain 10/20 Chapters before.
- WsW has barely shown off anything unique save for 3 moves, including this chapter. Everything else is typical rokushiki. He's also an ancient zoan who can recover immensely fast. Recall the 2 times Ulti recovered this arc already.
I agree with you guys that next chapter should also be about the fight... But I doubt it goes past that.
But who's who is definitely not down for now.
If the chapter ends or 1019 begins with Jinbe walking away from WsW's unconscious body, then its over. But only if that is the case. If it's just a big name move and we see WsW white eyed, it doesn't imply he's defeated. Here are some examples:
- Chapter 404: "Franky vs Fukuro"
- Chapter 405: "Power" literally is more of their fight, it does not end. Franky gets the longest fight at Enies Lobby outside of Luffy.
- Chapter 406: "Life Return" Few pages for Franky, some transition, rest for Chopper
Notice the difference between Fukuro being launched and being in the ground white eyed. The latter is a reaction to him being defeated.
- Chapter 414: "Sanji vs Jabra"
Example of no reaction from the villain
- Chapter 415: "Heat Up"
Example of Sanji using his best move against Jabra at the time, no reaction. This "could" support Jinbe winning, but this was after the vs chapter and Sanji's victory wasn't shown until 416:
Jabra and Sanji also had a satisfactory level of actions against each other to finish the fight.
Chapter 416: "Zoro vs Kaku"
Ends with a stare down
Chapter 417: "Asura"
Ends with his final move
But isn't shown he won until 418
These are just examples from Enies Lobby, but this case for Vs Chapters exists in other arcs, especially Thriller Bark and Punk Hazard. Virtually all of Luffy's fights end like this. Certain arcs, like DR, almost entirely lack Vs Chapters for the final battles. This was noted by the fact that most of the allies fighting were not strawhats, but the future strawhat fleet. Oda gave most members a signdicant moment and dedicated 1 chapter to each of them. Zoro and Franky still 2-3 dedicated chapters of fighting that arc. Franky had a big portion of his major fight in 755, then fought with Senor over 20 Chapters, THEN defeated him in another dedicated chapter in 775.
Tldr: There are way too many factors to determine if Jinbe is done with WsW, but chances are it's not over because:
- Most strawhat fights are at least 2 Chapters
- Vs Chapters usually do not end in a Victor, outside of the strict 1 chapter battles in Skypiea. Luffy's battles never follow this pattern either. He could have his vs chapter with the villain 10/20 Chapters before.
- WsW has barely shown off anything unique save for 3 moves, including this chapter. Everything else is typical rokushiki. He's also an ancient zoan who can recover immensely fast. Recall the 2 times Ulti recovered this arc already.
- Chapter 404: "Franky vs Fukuro"
- Chapter 405: "Power" literally is more of their fight, it does not end. Franky gets the longest fight at Enies Lobby outside of Luffy.
- Chapter 406: "Life Return" Few pages for Franky, some transition, rest for Chopper
Notice the difference between Fukuro being launched and being in the ground white eyed. The latter is a reaction to him being defeated.
- Chapter 414: "Sanji vs Jabra"
Example of no reaction from the villain
- Chapter 415: "Heat Up"
Example of Sanji using his best move against Jabra at the time, no reaction. This "could" support Jinbe winning, but this was after the vs chapter and Sanji's victory wasn't shown until 416:
Jabra and Sanji also had a satisfactory level of actions against each other to finish the fight.
Chapter 416: "Zoro vs Kaku"
Ends with a stare down
Chapter 417: "Asura"
Ends with his final move
But isn't shown he won until 418
These are just examples from Enies Lobby, but this case for Vs Chapters exists in other arcs, especially Thriller Bark and Punk Hazard. Virtually all of Luffy's fights end like this. Certain arcs, like DR, almost entirely lack Vs Chapters for the final battles. This was noted by the fact that most of the allies fighting were not strawhats, but the future strawhat fleet. Oda gave most members a signdicant moment and dedicated 1 chapter to each of them. Zoro and Franky still 2-3 dedicated chapters of fighting that arc. Franky had a big portion of his major fight in 755, then fought with Senor over 20 Chapters, THEN defeated him in another dedicated chapter in 775.
Tldr: There are way too many factors to determine if Jinbe is done with WsW, but chances are it's not over because:
- Most strawhat fights are at least 2 Chapters
- Vs Chapters usually do not end in a Victor, outside of the strict 1 chapter battles in Skypiea. Luffy's battles never follow this pattern either. He could have his vs chapter with the villain 10/20 Chapters before.
- WsW has barely shown off anything unique save for 3 moves, including this chapter. Everything else is typical rokushiki. He's also an ancient zoan who can recover immensely fast. Recall the 2 times Ulti recovered this arc already.
Agree and the only reason why I can see that the fight take two chapters would the reason why also Franky get 4chapters with battle in Enies lobby, because it was his first on panel battle overall in the manga.
In case Franky is like Jinbe, both have their first fight overall in one piece, a legit onscreen battle.
So I wouldn´t be surprise if the battle continue until chapter 1020. In case Sasaki vs Franky and BM vs Robin+Brook probably only take 2-3chapters.
In case Franky is like Jinbe, both have their first fight overall in one piece, a legit onscreen battle.
So I wouldn´t be surprise if the battle continue until chapter 1020. In case Sasaki vs Franky and BM vs Robin+Brook probably only take 2-3chapters.
I think about it like this:
- Classic resolution: Jinbe gets another full chapter (1019) for his fight. Either we see him victorious next chapter or in the beginning of 1020.
- Disappointing resolution: 1019 shows Jinbe won already. Which imo is lame because from this description it shows that Oda did not give WsW enough of a moveset to diffentiate himself from Lucci outside of 3 basic rokushiki moves.
- Unorthodox resolution: This can be due to a few things. It could be unorthodox because Oda decides to shift away from Jinbe's fight to focus on other fights, meaning it's not over yet. This was actually done with Franky vs Senor Pink. They were given a full chapter fight in 755, then given even more skirmishes until 775, where Franky got another full chapter to win.
- Super Unorthodox resolution: Jinbe vs WsW is just a pitstop to Jinbe vs Jack. Either Jinbe wins here or passes WsW off to Brook, which then allows him to fight Jack.
My guess is it's truly the first option. Oda tends to give enough satisfactory content when it comes strawhat fights (provided they actually get fights), but also gives the villain time to show off their powers. My "hope" is the last option because it allows Brook to have a decent 1v1 against a pretty unusual swordsman.
- Classic resolution: Jinbe gets another full chapter (1019) for his fight. Either we see him victorious next chapter or in the beginning of 1020.
- Disappointing resolution: 1019 shows Jinbe won already. Which imo is lame because from this description it shows that Oda did not give WsW enough of a moveset to diffentiate himself from Lucci outside of 3 basic rokushiki moves.
- Unorthodox resolution: This can be due to a few things. It could be unorthodox because Oda decides to shift away from Jinbe's fight to focus on other fights, meaning it's not over yet. This was actually done with Franky vs Senor Pink. They were given a full chapter fight in 755, then given even more skirmishes until 775, where Franky got another full chapter to win.
- Super Unorthodox resolution: Jinbe vs WsW is just a pitstop to Jinbe vs Jack. Either Jinbe wins here or passes WsW off to Brook, which then allows him to fight Jack.
My guess is it's truly the first option. Oda tends to give enough satisfactory content when it comes strawhat fights (provided they actually get fights), but also gives the villain time to show off their powers. My "hope" is the last option because it allows Brook to have a decent 1v1 against a pretty unusual swordsman.
My issue is that Brook fighting Who's Who would feel like it's making Franky's Shogun not special. It's like Sanji and Zoro defeating a YC1 without the Raid Suit or Enma powerup
Unless if Brook and Robin gets a Powerup that's comparable to The Shogun it doesn't seem right for them to be around the same level as Shogun Franky as it would downgrade base Franky badly
Unless if Brook and Robin gets a Powerup that's comparable to The Shogun it doesn't seem right for them to be around the same level as Shogun Franky as it would downgrade base Franky badly
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