Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1023 Spoilers Discussion

[Paperchampion23]

Are we getting full summary on Wednesday

Likely. Could come out tonight like it did last chapter but that was probably because of break week

 

[Finalbeta]

How long is Oda gonna take to reveal King's bounty

I hope next Vivre Card reveal which might occur next week

 

[Shiroyru]

Thats not true. Like I said, nobody credits Gin for knocking out Krieg after. Nobody says Enel didn't lose to Luffy even though he was fine soon after and headed to the Moon

Kaido being defeated and getting up a chapter later, half unconscious, refuting Luffy's victory and attempting to destroy the capital in blind rage does not imply Luffy didn't win.

In Krieg’s case, Luffy obviously could have kicked his ass again, so it didn’t really matter. The Enel case was weird though. Oda just wanted an excuse to draw the moon cover story.

Kaido throwing a tantrum because he “lost” seems extremely out of character for him. Kaido wants to die in a valiant battle

 

[Paperchampion23]

*A nice warm day on the Sunny*

Zoro to Yamato "Remember that time I decapitated your father in front of your eyes"?

You mean the same person that doesn't consider Kaido her father anymore and has tried to kill him countless times?

 

[MonsterZoro]

Sanji has King's flame on his back too on hells memories mode

 

[Sir Yasheen]

@Jackteo @Doggo @Yasheen @Rayleigh-Sama @MonsterZoro @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @The Unworthy @Sadistic Senpai

More seriously, I think there were some confusions about Sanji's part. Nothing in the spoilers said that Sanji got King's DNA or anything like that.

"- Queen wonders if a normal human can create fire and tells him that if he is not from the X tribe (the Korean does not give the name).
- After this they focus on King, implying that Queen speaks of King's race.
- However, Sanji's Diable Jambe is nothing compared to the powers of King's race. "

Just Queen asking if Sanji is not from King's tribe since he can use (or manipulate) fire.
So Zoro/Sanji probably looked at King who said "...."
And Sanji probably said "my DJ power is completely different from him".

So there is nothing actually about any King's DNA or power

And btw, Sanji didn't use his RS like 3 times now ? (p1, onsen, momo) why he didn't talk the 3rd times (momo's one) ?
From what i understood (i might be wrong), Sanji is using his RS in this chapter (so second time during the war) that's why he feels strange. I don't deny the upcoming PU, tho.

I just figured the translator mentioned a second time as a mistranslation rather than meaning again.

There doesn’t seem to be anything giving them impression that Sanjis in the raid suit.

As for the king dna I still doubt it. I personally think that’s just Queen not understanding Sanjis power. He as a scientist would always attempt to attribute what he doesn’t know to a new science rather than to sanjis burning will power and emotion.

 

[Finalbeta]

Sanji fans want him to fight King

so

Oda turns him into king

 

[Zowo]

Makes sense. I'm still curious of how the fight in this chapter will be choreographed. The spoilers seem to imply it is a tag team, but it could be that they don't actually fight and the chapter is only the conversation.

It s not a tag team
Hyoo says zoro looks like ryuma and ushi seeing him fighting king

 

[wraithery]

Sogeking O soba mask Raid Suit

This was all I wanted from wano

These two in a team up would've been dope.

 

[mly90]

Likely. Could come out tonight like it did last chapter but that was probably because of break week

Yes we usually got them on Thursday before the magazine breaks let's hope Lance drops them tonight

 

[MonsterZoro]

Also

Zoro already using enma
Queen already hybrid


Sanji no raid suit yet
King no hybrid yet


oda parralllell here

 

[Seth]

It s not a tag team
Hyoo says zoro looks like ryuma and ushi seeing him fighting king

There are dudes who think this is a tag team still?

 

[Paperchampion23]

In Krieg’s case, Luffy obviously could have kicked his ass again, so it didn’t really matter. The Enel case was weird though. Oda just wanted an excuse to draw the moon cover story.

Kaido throwing a tantrum because he “lost” seems extremely out of character for him. Kaido wants to die in a valiant battle

Luffy was unconscious in the water and was still unconscious when he got up lol.

Why are we making excuses for them before we even can justify presentation and logic for Kaido? It will be clear that Luffy wins, regardless if Kaido gets up or not

 

[Igor_akainu_redog]

In Krieg’s case, Luffy obviously could have kicked his ass again, so it didn’t really matter. The Enel case was weird though. Oda just wanted an excuse to draw the moon cover story.

Kaido throwing a tantrum because he “lost” seems extremely out of character for him. Kaido wants to die in a valiant battle

Kaido Will be defeated, but Will try to kill the people of the capital that are enjoying themselfs with his defeat with a last move.

But before he does It zoro Will behead kaido.

 

[spawn]

That's interesting, after your comment I looked into it and saw that the verb "斬り(kiri)" is same with "Hitokiri Kamazou" and "Daikan-kiri" so both Zoro and Killer has kiri in their epithets, but of course I'm not an expert on this topic.

Yeah, "Hitokiri Kamazo" which would be "Kamazo the manslayer".
The anime, in fact, doesn't call Zoro "slasher" but "killer" instead.

 

[Doggo]

@Jackteo @Doggo @Yasheen @Rayleigh-Sama @MonsterZoro @Vinsmoke D. Zolo @The Unworthy @Sadistic Senpai

More seriously, I think there were some confusions about Sanji's part. Nothing in the spoilers said that Sanji got King's DNA or anything like that.

"- Queen wonders if a normal human can create fire and tells him that if he is not from the X tribe (the Korean does not give the name).
- After this they focus on King, implying that Queen speaks of King's race.
- However, Sanji's Diable Jambe is nothing compared to the powers of King's race. "

Just Queen asking if Sanji is not from King's tribe since he can use (or manipulate) fire.
So Zoro/Sanji probably looked at King who said "...."
And Sanji probably said "my DJ power is completely different from him".

So there is nothing actually about any King's DNA or power

And btw, Sanji didn't use his RS like 3 times now ? (p1, onsen, momo) why he didn't talk the 3rd times (momo's one) ?
From what i understood (i might be wrong), Sanji is using his RS in this chapter (so second time during the war) that's why he feels strange. I don't deny the upcoming PU, tho.

Sanji says he's 100% human, but Queen questions about his DJ.
Most likely Sanji himself is not aware that he might be modified after all, since he has his emotions and that should signal that the modifications failed.
To me it seems like a tease of something.
My theory is that Kaido AND King were experimented on. That was the occasion they met and something happened that made King follow Kaido. Kaido treats his Calamities WAY different from the rest of his crew, and I don't think it's just purely a "power" thing. I do wonder if we will get a Kaido flashback once he sees Momo's dragon form.
Btw, IF Sanji's DJ is from King's race DNA, but weaker, it probably means that it can still improve. Maybe once he fully unlocks the "genetic" PU?
Idk.
All speculation.
I'm hyped.

 

[wraithery]

Man I forgot about usopp, he seriously needs a power up before getting to elbaf

Tell that to oda, we all agree with you lol

 

[Zowo]

There are dudes who think this is a tag team still?

One can dream

 

[Seth]

One can dream

I dream about Zori being a GOAT.

Oh, already happened.

One can dream, but dreams are often disappointing.

Muh Langoro vs King.

 

[Paperchampion23]

Tell that to oda, we all agree with you lol

Really, I'm surprised Oda didn't elaborate on his Observation haki thus far. Maybe it just hasn't happened yet, but I feel like he could have drawn Usopp beating Page 1 in a realistic way