Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1027 Spoilers Discussion

[Kiss_Shot]

Sooo Kings wind attack is stronger than Kaidos? Zoro brushed off Kaidos attack like it was nothing.

 

[Gari]

If we're being totally fair and unbiased like I am :

Zoro=Luffy>King>>Marco>Queen>=Sanji=Jinbe.
This is the most honest ranking you'll ever see on this forum btw.

 

[Zowo]

Luffy wants to fight alone so even IF zoro goes up luffy will just tell him to get the fuck back down.

but zoro is not going up to luffy
he s going above flower capital to slay kaido after luffy is ko :cheers:

 

[ShadyOjiro]

just because king ragdolled ‘no 4th bounty strawhats’ doesnt mean hes above kata.

wait till he showed anything Advance haki except fire, cuz even franky can do that

I take the him and Kaido going to Marineford above anything kata did tbh

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Hahahaha. That is gross underestimation. They have planetary level of force. King didn't show anything better than Katakuri so far. At best, he has shown tight now that he is indeed first commander of Kaidou.

Would you be satisfied if I call them Pacifista level? The things that we got to know about King so far are his bounty, defense, and AP. King is better than Kuri in all those areas.

Quit exaggerating King's feats.

Huh? I am not! Did you see the force at which King sent Zoro flying? This is the same guy who stopped Hakai. Perhaps, you're the one who's trying to downplay King here?

G4 level force
One sent Doflamingo who protects himself with CoA from Plateau to downtown in one hit
Other one couldn't even push fodders far away

You do realize sending current Zoro flying is more of an accomplishment than overpowering Doffy who's not even predominantly a physical fighter?

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

it took King 3 hours to put down a 30% Marco

 

[WesMidnight]

Jack needed a chapter like this... But Oda just hates him

Jack should have chosen to fight a strawhat rather than a side character then.

 

[MonsterZoro]

Queen tanked hybrid queen and Zoro fainted from the same attack what now

 

[Adam-san]

but zoro is not going up to luffy
he s going above flower capital to slay kaido after luffy is ko :cheers:

What a honorable death. If zoro does that hes a fucking pussy. Pussy way to kill someone who is already down. Zoro fans truly pathetic. They don't even understand their fav character. Losers

 

[LANJI CUCKSMOKE]

Yup, no doubt blue flames drain Marco, but he didn't lose only because he lost energy though. He's damaged which is why Queen assumed he's dead in the first place.



He's had bruises even before 1006 from his fight with King.



He did damage Marco in the panels I've shown. We see, Marco cleaning blood on his lips after dropping on the knees from King's bullets. We also saw how Marco couldn't reform his wing after losing it to King which implies his attacks are affecting regeneration.


We should if we saw Queen involved with Marco at least once beside the panels where Marco attacked Queen. We, in fact, see Marco fighting King without any trace of Queen around before chapter 1006 so there is little reason for us to give any credit to Queen.



I am not sure if I have the answer you're looking for, but as far as I am concerned, Zoro isn't going to block every single attack in the series without budging just because he stopped Hakai. Overpowering opponents and getting overpowered is rather normal in fights. What I do know is that he's at least better than his peers from the rooftop at blocking stuff, and overpowering Zoro would only mean King is just that strong.



Hakai isn't just your random attack from a top-tier though. It's literally the most powerful attack which took two Yonko to produce; it is definitely in top-3 even if you don't think it's the strongest attack. Among the commanders, Jozu and Marco are like top 1 and 2 in the defense department—their defensive abilities make them YC level in the first place.

Even Marco isn't stopping Hakai, he survives it via regeneration but he's getting swatted like a fly. Jozu's the only one among the commanders who can replicate Zoro's feat and that's because he excels at defense which is the result of the toughest defense in the world coupled with monstrous strength. It is in fact way harder to cut Jozu than it is to cut Kaido.
Therefore, it's not fair to normalize Hakai feat as "not something commanders can't do" when only one of them even comes close to replicating it. It's like saying commanders on average can dodge Snakeman because Katakuri did it.



Zoro isn't beyond YCs because he blocked Hakai breaking 30 bones in the process, defense isn't even Zoro's main forte. The areas where Zoro actually excels are endurance and AP. Basically, his defense is as good as commanders who dominate in defense, his endurance is above the commanders who excel in endurance, and his AP is way above all commanders. Therefore, he's comparable to or is above in 3 areas than YCs who excel in those areas which is the reason why he's beyond YCs.




I was talking in general, but Luffy's the only one I had in mind when I said "stronger than Marco." I don't see why Luffy wouldn't even attempt to do anything to stop Hakai if he's better at defense than Zoro. I agree if you're trying to say Luffy's more durable than Zoro, but that doesn't make him better at blocking.

"What I do know is that he's at least better than his peers from the rooftop at blocking stuff, and overpowering Zoro would only mean King is just that strong.''
if in a contest of brute strength king looks relative to zoro is not stronger as he does this chap and you think zoro was able to block hakai based off brute strength, then I think you do have the answer am looking for . someone with equal or more brute strength should be able to replicate the same feat. are there commanders that can yes

"Even Marco isn't stopping Hakai, he survives it via regeneration but he's getting swatted like a fly."
doubtful

marco doesnt seem to lack that much when it comes to physical strength either

"Basically, his defense is as good as commanders who dominate in defense, his endurance is above the commanders who excel in endurance, and his AP is way above all commanders. Therefore, he's comparable to or is above in 3 areas than YCs who excel in those areas which is the reason why he's beyond YCs."
not really the case is it
his endurance wouldnt be above or comparable to marco's
and his defense isnt as good as or comparable to jozu's who you highlighted was harder to cut than even kaido .

"It's like saying commanders on average can dodge Snakeman because Katakuri did it."
never said commanders on average
I said we have seen two commanders on separate occasions completely block a top tiers attack . knowing that, zoro managing to partially block one from two is not a feat thats otherworldly. its still in the realms of what a commander has displayed, granted 2 of the strongest ones. ap however is a different matter entirely.


this fight is truly a measure if he's above commanders as you claim
if he wins convincingly then he is
atm however a righthand seems to be the level of zoro .

 

[sanjikun]

You do realize sending current Zoro flying is more of an accomplishment than overpowering Doffy who's not even predominantly a physical fighter?

Jozu is living proof that all your arguments are absolute garbage.

People have got to stop comparing fucking Commanders to Boundman AP. No one comes even fucking close. Jozu stopped Mihawk and he pales in comparison to Boundman AP.

 

[zzShinichi]

Zoro is like the new RTX 3080, the benchmark for YC1 and YC1++ level fighters

 

[WesMidnight]

You do realize sending current Zoro flying is more of an accomplishment than overpowering Doffy who's not even predominantly a physical fighter?

 

[Manos. AsuraZoro]

People who put the roof top 5 above YC1 are mistaken and this chapter (among others past and yet to come) is a proof of it. Only luffy was above YC1. I understand that this way of thinking comes from Queens performance against nerfed big mom but..
1. YC1>YC2 and is not an insignificant difference.
2. Queen was alone and that should be considered.
3. Queen unfortunately for him was fighting a much better version of him.
Queen is a tanky strong dude and big mom is way more of those plus she is way faster. Characters like kata, Marco or king would faire a lot better than him. They would lose of course.
I am really happy that we finally have our fight that will establish zoro as a YC1, king is much more than i ever hoped..
Well done oda..

 

[Bounty]

It's hilarious that King somewhat matches this guy-

 

[ShadyOjiro]

It's funny how ppl try to undermine King and wank Kata.

Bum is probably still in a wheelchair

 

[Grade12]

Epic. Finally Oda delivers

 

[Black hair]

I take the him and Kaido going to Marineford above anything kata did tbh

You take him cuz hes going to marineford and got chased away by yassop?
:cantseeme:

 

[Shepherd]

Zoro=Luffy>King>>Marco>Queen>=Sanji=Jinbe.
This is the most honest ranking you'll ever see on this forum btw.

"SaNjI = JiNbEi"

 

[Heavensplitter]

Man, look. I was giving you examples of stronger characters being ragdolled by weaker ones when holding back. Sanji v Drake, Luffy vs Ulti, Zoro vs King, Luffy vs Apoo, Aokiji vs base preskip Luffy being an extreme case, etc etc. Saying that Zoro wasn't using CoA so it massively lowers his AP and defenses.

Idk if you want to just start an aimless shittalk session or you sincerely somehow comprehend that as me saying Zoro=Luffy=Sanji=Aokiji. I hope it's not that, for the sake of your own mental health, but I'll leave the clarification here rather than start talking about things that don't exist.

Because King is still weaker than Zoro for you ?
Lmaaooo
This guy is reading Zoro Piece