Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1027 Spoilers Discussion

[Gol D. Roger]

You seem to fail at basic logic. Dodging a bullet does not make you "bullet speed". The same as taking a bullet for someone (what Marco did) does not make you "bullet speed".

Pacifistas have the same mechanism as Kizaru's DF. They're based on it. Light is light, DF or not.

So pre-TS characters can dodge Kizaru considering they can dodge Pacifista?

 

[vikas]

Where the fuck is the chapter

Sorry I used it as toilet paper in the morning.

 

[ConquistadoR]

You seem to fail at basic logic. Dodging a bullet does not make you "bullet speed". The same as taking a bullet for someone (what Marco did) does not make you "bullet speed".

Marco kicked him around and fought him for most of Marineford. You think that wasn't enough depiction of his combat speed being atleast comparable to the likes of Kizaru?

Pacifistas have the same mechanism as Kizaru's DF. They're based on it. Light is light, DF or not.

Yeah so Pre Timeskip Zoro was able to react to light speed now?

 

[Raughtale]

So pre-TS characters can dodge Kizaru considering they can dodge Pacifista?

Yes, most people would put Mihawk over Kizaru and Luffy could dodge him.

 

[Superior to you]

Its for zorotards. Are you one of zorotard?

Are you Okama

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Yes, most people would put Mihawk over Kizaru and Luffy could dodge him.

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[spiteful_platypus]

Sorry I used it as toilet paper in the morning.

 

[ConquistadoR]

Is that what the vivre cards said or is that you are making stuff up to downplay Kizaru because apparently Rakuyo could keep up with that based off of one panel?

"Rakuyo could keep up with Kizaru"

We see Kizaru casually shapeshifting around "speed god" Rakuyo's attack and stand like literally nothing happened at all.

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Yes, most people would put Mihawk over Kizaru and Luffy could dodge him.

Most people would put Whitebeard over Kizaru. Doesn't mean that Kizaru's slower than Whitebeard. All it means is that Whitebeard is considered among the masses to be stronger than Kizaru on a whole.

 

[Raughtale]

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What a chad, blitzed right past light speed Kizaru, the old man had to take advantage Luffy couldn't move mid air to tag him.

 

[Monster Luffy]

Marco kicked him around and fought him for most of Marineford. You think that wasn't enough depiction of his combat speed being atleast comparable to the likes of Kizaru?


Yeah so Pre Timeskip Zoro was able to react to light speed now?

Sigh. When did Marco fought Kizaru? They have clashed only once. There was no off panel fight. You guys are just making up non sense. Even deathbed Whitebeard was able to prevent Kizaru from attacking Luffy. Does that mean deathbed Whitebeard was as fast as Kizaru? It is amazing how you extrapolate things out of context. It is not just King that fought Marco, there was Queen also for certain amount of time. To think that you people think characters move at same speed all the time. Smh.

 

[Black hair]

BEFORE THS CHAPTER COME OUT, THIS IS ALL THE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW

1. zoro got ragdolled
2. zoro one shotted king is debunked
3. zoro begged king
4. zoro got saved by franky
5. zorofans thought he could hold a candle against luffy
6. zoro’s stamina, endurance and durabolity are shit (wheeze wheeze, huff huff)

 

[sanjikun]

So pre-TS characters can dodge Kizaru considering they can dodge Pacifista?

What the fuck are you drooling on about? Dodging depends on a lot of things. CoO, reaction speed, attack speed, situation, set up time, if you're signaling the attack or not.

 

[uyuu]

I am a Luffyboi too.

I am not a blind wanker who justifies everything related to Luffy though

If we want explanation or a way out we can always nitpick:

- Luffy struggled against Hody until the timelimit bubble crisis purely due to plot restriction, since he has G4 already

- Luffy struggled against Doflamingo until his G4 over purely due to plot restriction, he let the citizens throw him and interview him around instead of finishing up with Kong Gatling or KKG

- Luffy hadnt use internal destruction CoA explicitly which he used to break the cuff, to destroy Kaidou's organs from the inside, until now.

- Rayleigh suddenly had amnesia and didnt inform Luffy about Roger being able to do CoC Coating, despite CoC being the technique which Luffy is specialized in, or despite AdvCoC is a tech can only be used by the very strongest ones.

Those points can support that Luffy always held back or, if we want some realistic depiction, saved his overall strength in the previous team battles (all-out reaction, all-out speed, etc) until his competence in AdvCoC increased.

 

[Monster Luffy]

BEFORE THS CHAPTER COME OUT, THIS IS ALL THE THING YOU NEED TO KNOW

1. zoro got ragdolled
2. zoro one shotted king is debunked
3. zoro begged king
4. zoro got saved by franky
3. zorofans thought he could hold a candle against luffy

You are one of the toxic fanboys of same bunch who hates the character more than you love your favorite.

 

[Zolo]

You are one of the toxic fanboys of same bunch who hates the character more than you love your favorite.

he has good point though... Zorobois have zoro stronger than Kaido in their minds

 

[vikas]

What the fuck are you drooling on about? Dodging depends on a lot of things. CoO, reaction speed, attack speed, situation, set up time, if you're signaling the attack or not.

in the end speed is involved

 

[Monster Luffy]

If we want explanation or a way out we can always nitpick:

- Luffy struggled against Hody until the timelimit bubble crisis purely due to plot restriction, since he has G4 already

- Luffy struggled against Doflamingo until his G4 over purely due to plot restriction, he let the citizens throw him and interview him around instead of finishing up with Kong Gatling or KKG

- Luffy hadnt use internal destruction CoA explicitly which he used to break the cuff, to destroy Kaidou's organs from the inside, until now.

- Rayleigh suddenly had amnesia and didnt inform Luffy about Roger being able to do CoC Coating, despite CoC being the technique which Luffy is specialized in, or despite AdvCoC is a tech can only be used by the very strongest ones.

Those points can support that Luffy always held back or, if we want some realistic depiction, saved his overall strength in the previous team battles (all-out reaction, all-out speed, etc) until his competence in AdvCoC increased.

Lol, Future sight is forgotten. Don't blame you though. Oda himself forgot.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

What the fuck are you drooling on about? Dodging depends on a lot of things. CoO, reaction speed, attack speed, situation, set up time, if you're signaling the attack or not.

You should've just said you can't give a me direct answer.

 

[Weeman]

I mean like high quality scans on whatever language

 

[uyuu]

What a chad, blitzed right past light speed Kizaru, the old man had to take advantage Luffy couldn't move mid air to tag him.

Do you mean pre-TS Luffy had the speed surpassing reaction of even the Admirals!? It's unprecedented! Lets wank pre-TS Luffy's speed now to push this topic about Oda constantly nerfed Luffy!