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Here is what we know about the Devil Fruit user the Gorosei were talking about:
  1. They are currently in Onigashima
  2. Until recently, they were a mystery to the World Government
  3. They have incredible potential once Awakened

The character we know of who best fits this description is Tama.

It can't be Zunesha or Luffy. The Gorosei specifically say the fruit nothing but a legend even to them. There's no way they don't know Luffy has the Gomu Gomu at this point. And the WG knows of Zunesha since we see Minks on the slave list in Sabaody


CP0 didn't know why so many Gifters were switching sides during the Onigashima raid, indicating they had no idea of Tama's Devil Fruit. And assuming the Gorosei are being given updates on what's going on in Onigashima (which they likely are, as they are describing the battle that's taking place), then they are just being told of this as well. Meaning they themselves are just realizing that the Kibi Kibi no Mi is behind it. And since the Kibi Kibi no Mi hasn't left Wano's borders, it makes perfect sense for it to be a mystery to the Gorosei.

And now for the part on Awakening.
Currently, Tama's Devil Fruit allows her to tame animals, and Gifters by extension. So then, what could a fruit like that be capable of once Awakened? Most likely, it's able to extend its powers to tame humans.
Given the fruit's (probable) power once Awakened and the fact that the World Government has tried to hide its name from history, I believe that the Kibi Kibi no Mi is in fact the ancient weapon Uranus.

Because Tama will not be safe in Wano now that the WG knows of her Devil Fruit, I think that she will join the Strawhat Pirates as its tenth and final member.

The signs are all there





Additionally, she has been shown to have a close relationship with multiple members of the crew.


And as for her role on the ship, I believe that she would be the crew's apprentice. Shanks and Buggy had that role on Roger's ship, so it stands to reason Tama could fulfill the same role with the Strawhats


We have been played by Oda. We were baited with red herrings like Carrot and Yamato while our actual crewmate was being set up right under our nose.
 
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Here is what we know about the Devil Fruit user the Gorosei were talking about:
  1. They are currently in Onigashima
  2. Until recently, they were a mystery to the World Government
  3. They have incredible potential once Awakened

The character we know of who best fits this description is Tama.

It can't be Zunesha or Luffy. The Gorosei specifically say the fruit nothing but a legend even to them. There's no way they don't know Luffy has the Gomu Gomu at this point. And the WG knows of Zunesha since we see Minks on the slave list in Sabaody


CP0 didn't know why so many Gifters were switching sides during the Onigashima raid, indicating they had no idea of Tama's Devil Fruit. And assuming the Gorosei are being given updates on what's going on in Onigashima (which they likely are, as they are describing the battle that's taking place), then they are just being told of this as well. Meaning they themselves are just realizing that the Kibi Kibi no Mi is behind it. And since the Kibi Kibi no Mi hasn't left Wano's borders, it makes perfect sense for it to be a mystery to the Gorosei.

And now for the part on Awakening.
Currently, Tama's Devil Fruit allows her to tame animals, and Gifters by extension. So then, what could a fruit like that be capable of once Awakened? Most likely, it's able to extend its powers to tame humans.
Given the fruit's (probable) power once Awakened and the fact that the World Government has tried to hide its name from history, I believe that the Kibi Kibi no Mi is in fact the ancient weapon Uranus.

Because Tama will not be safe in Wano now that the WG knows of her Devil Fruit, I think that she will join the Strawhat Pirates as its tenth and final member.

The signs are all there





Additionally, she has been shown to have a close relationship with multiple members of the crew.


And as for her role on the ship, I believe that she would be the crew's apprentice. Shanks and Buggy had that role on Roger's ship, so it stands to reason Tama could fulfill the same role with the Strawhats


We have been played by Oda. We were baited with red herrings like Carrot and Yamato while our actual crewmate was being set up right under our nose.
I always saw Tama as a dark horse
There solid arguments on why she can't join as not having have much fighting abilities, being too young so it would be dangerous to take her along.
But she does shares strong emotional connection and scenes with Luffy and other crewmembers, Ace promised her to take her on his ship.
If she really happens to be the DF user mlking the WG sweat, then it will likely make her more than an arc only side character.
 
Yeah it seems this just like lucci bulk and thin mode but kaido it seems look more to his dragon form in this chapter
most of the beast pirates have shown multiple nontraditional forms similar to Chopper now that i look at it but none of them are called attention to or named. jack has his centaur point mode, king has his wing point mode where he was making the huge flying slashes, kaido has this extra buff version of his hybrid
 
Here is what we know about the Devil Fruit user the Gorosei were talking about:
  1. They are currently in Onigashima
  2. Until recently, they were a mystery to the World Government
  3. They have incredible potential once Awakened

The character we know of who best fits this description is Tama.

It can't be Zunesha or Luffy. The Gorosei specifically say the fruit nothing but a legend even to them. There's no way they don't know Luffy has the Gomu Gomu at this point. And the WG knows of Zunesha since we see Minks on the slave list in Sabaody


CP0 didn't know why so many Gifters were switching sides during the Onigashima raid, indicating they had no idea of Tama's Devil Fruit. And assuming the Gorosei are being given updates on what's going on in Onigashima (which they likely are, as they are describing the battle that's taking place), then they are just being told of this as well. Meaning they themselves are just realizing that the Kibi Kibi no Mi is behind it. And since the Kibi Kibi no Mi hasn't left Wano's borders, it makes perfect sense for it to be a mystery to the Gorosei.

And now for the part on Awakening.
Currently, Tama's Devil Fruit allows her to tame animals, and Gifters by extension. So then, what could a fruit like that be capable of once Awakened? Most likely, it's able to extend its powers to tame humans.
Given the fruit's (probable) power once Awakened and the fact that the World Government has tried to hide its name from history, I believe that the Kibi Kibi no Mi is in fact the ancient weapon Uranus.

Because Tama will not be safe in Wano now that the WG knows of her Devil Fruit, I think that she will join the Strawhat Pirates as its tenth and final member.

The signs are all there





Additionally, she has been shown to have a close relationship with multiple members of the crew.


And as for her role on the ship, I believe that she would be the crew's apprentice. Shanks and Buggy had that role on Roger's ship, so it stands to reason Tama could fulfill the same role with the Strawhats


We have been played by Oda. We were baited with red herrings like Carrot and Yamato while our actual crewmate was being set up right under our nose.
Yes,i say this since the beginning of Wano! But people prefer to go towards the rabbit and Yamato! By the way you are officially invited to the O-Tama fanclub in the fanclub section,post this theory there too if you want,because we need to populate that fanclub somehow! (I cant even make new posts there and make people see them because i am the last one who posted a comment there back in August lol)
 

KiriNigiri

The Road To Harmony
Really cool chapter.

Luffy and Kaido finally begins in earnest, and Oda's putting in a lot of effort for it to match expectations, while playing with expectations.

Particularly, Kaido's drunken fist, or club, style. Kaido's shifting moods in this style were sort of alluded to back during the Zou arc when he went from sobbing grief-to-vicious anger.



Luffy took this as Kaido offering him a handicap, but in reality, this is just how Kaido fights best. Despite his admiration of the Samurai, Kaido does not fight with any particular form or technique. Even this drunken style is more in reference to the true martial arts. Kaido's a brute. He's more powerful than anyone else, so his strength and invincibility are his best assets. This makes his drunken state more dangerous than his sober state because now he'll be more unpredictable with that strength of his.

Luffy combats Kaido's drunken style with the fruits of his labors. Namely, all the forms of haki he has improved on since WCI. He uses his improved Observation haki to anticipate attacks, improved armament haki to take the brunt of attacks, and his newfound conqueror's coating to deal real damage on Kaido.

I like that this battle is perfectly even so far, and that Luffy hasn't resorted to G4 yet, even bringing back the G2+G3 combo from Thriller Bark. The dynamic of Luffy's fights is that he's a small guy facing foes who tower over him. Like David vs Goliath.


It's somewhat lost when you have a form like G4 where Luffy is comparable in size to his opponents. There's also a general trend in Shonen where the previous power becomes obsolete in favor of the new one. Particularly Goku and his numerous transformations, or Naruto resorting to his fox form. So I'm glad that, while G4 and potentially something new, are likely going to finish this fight, he shows his whole repertoire is valuable and not just a means to build up to the newest power.

The end of the chapter is...weird. Ok, so Oda is still keeping what happened during the Reverie a mystery as well as the general perception that things have gone completely wrong outside Wano's borders. Those throne wars Doffy spoke of may be coming sooner than we thought. It does make me wonder if we'll even have a breather following Wano. It could be madness after madness from this moment forward.

But what really has me stumped is this fruit the Elders are talking about. Juxtaposing their talk with Zunesha's arrival seems to imply they are referring to Zunesha being a possible awaken fruit user. But then, wouldn't they possibly know that? After all, Zunesha's a roaming island. I don't think I recall them ever talking about it. I guess it's possible they've totally missed Zunesha since it never stays in one place for long, but it would've been reported by someone who happened to be sailing, or bystanders identifying it? Two Emperors were able to track it down. So why wouldn't the most powerful force in the World not know of it?

It's a bit contrived, but not impossible. After all, Zunesha has never left the New World, and it wasn't until the timeskip when Marine influence started to become relevant there. Aside from that, Zunesha arriving to Wano is the natural end point for it, imo, and leads to some interesting conclusions, both for the minks and Kozuki, as they've been allies for many centuries, yet suspiciously apart for ages. Millenia ago, Zunesha was punished into roaming the earth for a particular crime, but that meant carrying Zou, the home of the minks. Could this finally be where Zunesha's endless walk comes to an end?
 
I don't know man, the chapter was great but I REALLY don't like the power scaling here. Luffy going toe to toe with Kaido right now in base form after getting massacred on the roof is a HUUUUGE reach. At least use Advanced Conquerors when you're in Snakeman form, that would be more believable, but hurting Kaido to this extent in base form is bad writing. I mean he was hit with a Ragnarok then just stands up 1 second later like it was nothing. IN BASE FORM. If anything just make it so that Luffy can last longer in Gear 4, but don't have Base level Luffy do all of this damage and tanking Yonko attacks. Not a fan of that at all. Doesn't make any kind of sense. And the fact that Luffy is not going all out right now doesn't make any sense either. The audience knows that he has Snakeman already, so what, is he just going to transform and beat Kaido with an Adv. Conquerors King Kobra in 10 chapters?
That's an aggressive powerup. At the same time though, he had Advanced Conqueror's on the roof and he got beat easily. So what changed between then and now for him to tank Ragnarok, Thunder Bagua, and a Meteor Shower (new stronger attack by the way, which makes it worse) back to back to back? What changed between then and now for him to constantly injure Kaido? There was nothing in between, Luffy just woke up and all of a sudden he's 5 times stronger with the SAME powerup that didn't work before. I know this is shonen but this is a little much to me. At least in other shonen like Bleach, there's something in between to justify it.
Before even figuring out AdvCoC, Luffy tanked Boro Breath with his body and CoA alone, resulting in no major damage at all. In chapter 1009 or 1010 (i forgot) he also received AdvCoC Ragnarok without major damage, that was even before figuring out how AdvCoC works.

So its natural for him to be much stronger once he figured out AdvCoC in 1010 and use it for his defense. Kaidou said in 1010 his technique is still crude, and later after he had his meals, he figured out to use his AdvCoC even better than before, reaching Skysplitter status. So in this state, using AdvCoC defense to protect his head from AdvCoC Drunken Ragnarok, resulting in so much stronger defense. Luffy already said the key statement "i figured it out" (how to use AdvCoC better) so he's just doing what he said right now compared to pre-1010 and even vastly better than 1010. It means his CoC storage/pool is very large from the start, he just figured out better and better techniques to use it and learns extremely fast about those tech, thats why he's the CoC specialist.

But in your defense, Oda should have depict the process smoothly by dialogues during the current fight, like having Kaidou internally recognize Luffy's progress ("He's getting much sharper way too fast in crystallizing CoC in his limbs...dont tell me his CoC pool is actually that deep and he adapts and learns this much from my CoC techniques, and even invents his own CoC crystallization methods as he fights?!") Etc. Which Oda didnt portray skillfully.
 
Before even figuring out AdvCoC, Luffy tanked Boro Breath with his body and CoA alone, resulting in no major damage at all. In chapter 1009 or 1010 (i forgot) he also received AdvCoC Ragnarok without major damage, that was even before figuring out how AdvCoC works.

So its natural for him to be much stronger once he figured out AdvCoC in 1010 and use it for his defense. Kaidou said in 1010 his technique is still crude, and later after he had his meals, he figured out to use his AdvCoC even better than before, reaching Skysplitter status. So in this state, using AdvCoC defense to protect his head from AdvCoC Drunken Ragnarok, resulting in so much stronger defense. Luffy already said the key statement "i figured it out" (how to use AdvCoC better) so he's just doing what he said right now compared to pre-1010 and even vastly better than 1010. It means his CoC storage/pool is very large from the start, he just figured out better and better techniques to use it and learns extremely fast about those tech, thats why he's the CoC specialist.

But in your defense, Oda should have depict the process smoothly by dialogues during the current fight, like having Kaidou internally recognize Luffy's progress ("He's getting much sharper way too fast in crystallizing CoC in his limbs...dont tell me his CoC pool is actually that deep and he adapts and learns this much from my CoC techniques, and even invents his own CoC crystallization methods as he fights?!") Etc. Which Oda didnt portray skillfully.
I feel like just letting us read it and see for ourselves is better than repeating it over and over. I know haki blooms and gets stronger in battle. Luffys ability to bounce back means he's always stronger every time he gets beaten and gets back up. I don't need someone to chime in every time to tell me Luffy is fighting more skillfully, I can see him doing that, he's clearly way more confident and precise than he was before. I think this is actually more skillful than having a narrator there to tell us what's happening
 
You know Luffys the Main character right ?
Yea but imo he really did Sanji dirty. His final back kick sequence didnt had much artistic or choreo impact from before.

I mean just see the lil panels depicting Sanji's unclear and little-paneled capoeira kicks lol what is dat. Oda should realized his discrimination against Sanji

 
2 full power yonko can't even kill nerf Zoro(Enma+4 useless)

Luffy finally put a lot of damage this chapter since kaido only have 10% strength

Pathetic Luffy but not as pathetic as sanji(defeat heavily nerf+no serious queen)

Current kaido got negg by non adcoc zoro
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Non adcoc zoro negg kaido
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Zoro wasn't even need to be serious to negg current kaido
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Any scabbard can do what Luffy do to current nerf kaido
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Current nerf kaido negg current sanji
 
I feel like just letting us read it and see for ourselves is better than repeating it over and over. I know haki blooms and gets stronger in battle. Luffys ability to bounce back means he's always stronger every time he gets beaten and gets back up. I don't need someone to chime in every time to tell me Luffy is fighting more skillfully, I can see him doing that, he's clearly way more confident and precise than he was before. I think this is actually more skillful than having a narrator there to tell us what's happening
I still feel there should be some hints for us, like maybe Luffy's fighting and his CoC is emphasized or focused in panel, there is Luffy's internal monologue about currently feeling his CoC more smoothly as the fight goes along, alternating with his CoC-Coat zone getting denser or thicker / more specific, while he remembers about his previous CoC -control mistakes from his previous loss to Kaidou, etc, tldr the hint of gradual process of reaching the result of being so proficient at using his CoC potential.
 
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Luffy Vs kaido nearing the end

10% kaido finally give MC a chance to shine this arc

Zoro kill kaido is near(more like no serious zoro negg 8% kaido)
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If 100% adcoc zoro Vs 100% adcoc kaido

The fight will end with zoro midd diff kaido

Oda did a good job for not let the main villain get bully by zoro
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King attack>kaido
King defence>kaido
King speed>kaido
King recovery>kaido

100% king get destroy by zoro
10% kaido on par with Luffy

Zoro negg kaido
 
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Finalbeta

Oda's accuser
Luffy Vs kaido nearing the end

10% kaido finally give MC a chance to shine this arc

Zoro kill kaido is near(more like no serious zoro negg 8% kaido)
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If 100% adcoc zoro Vs 100% adcoc kaido

The fight will end with zoro midd diff kaido

Oda did a good job for not let the main villain get bully by zoro
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King attack>kaido
King defence>kaido
King speed>kaido
King recovery>kaido

100% king get destroy by zoro
10% kaido on par with Luffy

Zoro negg kaido
Oda had to remove the Grandmaster in order to have the arc last enough chapters, I mean the yonko last enough chapters according to his plans

He was too stronk for it :josad:
 
Yea but imo he really did Sanji dirty. His final back kick sequence didnt had much artistic or choreo impact from before.

I mean just see the lil panels depicting Sanji's unclear and little-paneled capoeira kicks lol what is dat. Oda should realized his discrimination against Sanji

I mean the Final Beef Burst spread is Fire, Its a bigger version of the Mouton shot panel from the kuroobi fight. I understand you wanted to see bigger panels of the kicks leading up to the final attack But its not just 2 or 3 kicks, Sanjis putting out atleast 8 or 9 kicks before tht Final Attack. This why the panels are so small . This is probably going to be Sanjis longest Kick sequence in one piece when its Animated.

Even pre timeskip we didn't see clear panels of all those kicks sanji used before the final attack.

 
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