Spoiler One Piece Chapter 1044 Spoilers Discussion

[EmperorKinyagi]

Chapter not even out yet.
People already whining.

Well yeah because giving your main character reality warping powers and then revealing the WG heads knew all along but didn’t do anything is like…. objectively bad.

How it’s drawn isn’t really important at that point lol

 

[Attackingwhat]

Even though the cartoonish physics matches luffy's character and oda's art style. With this he has more creativity in drawing luffy

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

But isn't that what this shitty fandom always does. We only have one panel from the whole chapter but people are whining and bitching on oda ruining one piece

Since when does how something is drawn make its plot holes go away? This is like AOT 139 all over again.

 

[Ballel]

But isn't that what this shitty fandom always does. We only have one panel from the whole chapter but people are whining and bitching on oda ruining one piece

This has become the norm over the years.
Back in oj days the crying before chapter release was still frowned upon

 

[Paperchampion23]

Luffy turned into Rubber before Shanks said anything. He didn't even know what a Devil Fruit was.

This was an asspull retcon and nothing more. It makes no fucking sense in hindsight.

Or they just didn't know he ate it until that point.

There's a decent theory that Shanks didn't know Luffy at all and the reason he was at Fushia was to give the fruit to Ace instead, being Roger's son.


Basically:

- Shanks knew what the fruit was
- Meant to give it to Roger's son
- Did not account for Luffy eating it

 

[Ballel]

then revealing the WG heads knew all along but didn’t do anything is like…. objectively bad.

yeah not liking it either. this needs explanation.
just looks like high level pis to me.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

yeah not liking it either.

HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE IT???!????

The chapter isn’t even out!!

 

[Mastermind]

If shanks is the mastermind behind it, then he is basically black zetsu right?

 

[Seth]

Wait a minute. So Shanks snitched on Luffy? Or he played them because he knew by the point he reveals what Gomu Gomu no Mi actually is Luffy will be strong enough to avoid them?

 

[JerAx]

People should stop to find ways to make it work, or justify Oda´s decision.

Most likely he chose to walk this path specially before or during Wa No or at least timeskip, and could not make it consistent with what happened before, not to forget it literally makes Luffy the chosen one in every way.

Doomfag coping

 

[sanjikun]

Or they just didn't know he ate it until that point.

There's a decent theory that Shanks didn't know Luffy at all and the reason he was at Fushia was to give the fruit to Ace instead, being Roger's son.


Basically:

- Shanks knew what the fruit was
- Meant to give it to Roger's son
- Did not account for Luffy eating it

But Shanks didn't even know who Ace was when he met him... No one knew about Shanks' existence except for Garp.

 

[Ballel]

HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE IT???!????

The chapter isn’t even out!!

The question is: how did the gorosei know that Luffy's df just awakened? How many people know about the true nature of the df and how sure were they it's the rubber fruit?

 

[Fujishiro]

Although this raises Who's Who profile very high. He compared his talents to Rob Lucci and he was put to guard of the Gomu Gomu no Mi. Now that's it confirmed that's the DF Gorosei were talking about, it's a big deal.

He's low YC level guaranteed. He straight up seemed more skilled than Jack. Jack would get wrecked by Jinbe too.

 

[Gol D. Roger]

Thats what Redon said, do you have other sources?

Awakening, in general, gives you the ability to affect your surroundings. What Luffy's doing is a more broken version of what most other awakenings can already do. Reality wrapping in its true sense goes far beyond what Luffy's doing rn. Luffy just gets to fight freely however he likes within the boundaries of what his ability allows him to do—he doesn't get to do whatever he wants.

 

[Swordtaker]

Theres a difference between what its stated and what actually happens

It was shown that Sanji's brothers were nothing without Raid Suits compared to Sanji, RS Yonji got overwhelmed by Sanji in WCI, Sanji destroyed his Raid Suit even then he knew how much of a power up it was, he acted like it was enough to beat Queen just by casually using it.

What Oda wants to emphasize here is that Sanji's biggest strengths don't come from science, the Germa science especifically. Oda giving Queen Sanji's brothers abilities for example was another way of showing that to us.

The science here isn't simply "using a scientific power up to get super strong", but being a literal puppet who exists to obey orders without thinking about them, neither having the choice to choose what you really want, and thats how Judge designed his children to be, but Sanji was saved from this fate.

What Zeff teached to Sanji, and Sanji's emotions (related to his fire powers), play a big role on Sanji's strength, and thats also the complete opposite of what Germa represents and praises for, while its also what makes Sanji much stronger than they are and than they could be.

Oda just needed an excuse to not make Sanji beat Queen without power ups, which would be stupid obviously.

that's a lot of mental gymnastics, and btw when did sanji cassulally used RS against Queen? you got me confused, the main question is can sanji can do ifrit jame and finsih queen without exo skeleton? no, it was stated he can do that because of the effect making him more resistant to overheat, can sanji survive queen denting his bones without exo? no. like i said saying sanji isnt warrior of science is like saying he isn't vinsmoke.

 

[Franosuke]

Or they just didn't know he ate it until that point.

I think his point is that the explanation of Luffy being able to stretch just because "he thought he was rubber" doesn't make sense considering Luffy was stretching before Shanks even told him which fruit he ate

 

[spiteful_platypus]

Real question is how shanks knew that the fruit is so special?



Fruit's identity was kept secret by changing it's name so how shanks knew about this fruit?

He knew the fruit was not normal because it was scorted by Cipher pol. Then you have the fact that Shanks traveled with Roger, who knows some shit about Joy boy.

 

[EmperorKinyagi]

he likes within the boundaries of what his ability allows him to do

Which is what exactly?

Cuz he ain’t rubber anymore.

 

[Ballel]

HOW DARE YOU NOT LIKE IT???!????

The chapter isn’t even out!!

It needs explanation I said, read my post Linyagi.

 

[dizzy2341]

Oda's too fucking funny man. He just doesn't care. Surprised he can even still sit down to draw at his desk after the amount of shit he's unceremoniously ripped out of his ass, in this arc alone.

This has to take the cake though. Going against every established rule about devil fruits for the last 2 decades and then giving Luffy an all-purpose reality warping God ability?? LMFAO