Who is the strongest character?


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I agree. I’ve always said the only way for Kaido to be truely defeated is for his will to break. What he says here again confirms that to me. I think he’ll either be defeated when he finds out Luffy is Joyboy or Luffy does something which saves everyone in Wano
battle of wills....

Kaido tried to break the will....didn't happen
Kaido tried to kill.....didn't happen

Kaido will be the one who breaks at the end...
 
what ?

every big time pirate wants to be PK.

Kaido and Bm are making an alliance to be that.

Kid and Law wants to do it too.

etc etc

Almost big time pirate is in the PK race.

really different from Mohawk title where only Zoro seems to care about.
It's very very simple

No one dares to look for All Blue except Sanji (Previously Zeff)
No one dares to try & find All Healing Cure except Chopper (Previously Hiriluk)
No one dares to try & draw World Map except Nami
No one dares to try & become WSS except Zoro (Previously Kuina)
No one dares to try & do what Luffy said to Sabo/Ace except Luffy himself (Previously Roger)

So Roger, Zeff, Kuina, Hiriluk, Tom, Clover, Fisher Tiger ... etc are the ones which MCs inherited their Will, they are continuing on their Legacy
Don't compare them to the "Actual Treasure"

One Piece = All Blue = Void Century = Mihawk = World Map = All Healing Cure ... etc
Not Roger = Mihawk = All Blue = World Map ... etc

Zoro didn't Inherit Mihawk's Will, he is actually trying to Follow that Will to reach Mihawk's
Luffy Inherited Roger's Dream & he is gonna do what Roger failed to, so Roger & Mihawk don't fall under the same Category Story-Wise

Compare Roger instead to Zeff or Kuina or Hiriluk or Tiger ... etc
The only difference is that Luffy didn't meet Roger so Oda created Shanks to be the In-Betweener

Becoming Pirate King symbolizes reaching a Point where you can finally do whatever you please, that's why Luffy, Shanks calls it Freest Pirate
And that's why Luffy told Ace/Sabo: "After i become Pirate King, i will ....."

Those who also say they are gonna be Pirate King, they don't have same Dreams as Luffy
Blackbeard clearly wanna rule the World similar to Xebec
Kaidou wants to destroy the world
Big Mom wants to create Perfect World Utopia
Shiki & Crocodile wanted Military Might for World Domination
Doflamingo also wanted to create World Chaos ... etc

It's like you can't do your Larger Than Life Dream unless you first become Pirate King, that's why everyone chases this Dream
But it doesn't mean Pirate King = No. 1 In Everything lol

Luffy's Dream is Unique dude, only Roger had it, stop saying everyone has it
And the same applies to all Straw Hats, seriously what Manga you guys been reading
It’s a shonen. A story for young boyz.

And the theme of this shonen is pirate and pirate king.

Roger was the MC dream. Roger is the one who started everything. Who conquered all the seas. Who find the impossible island and treasure. The pirate with the highest bounty. He started the golden age of piracy. Roger had the straw hats. Etc

And given its a shonen and Roger is MC dream he has the highest chance to be the strongest even without looking at any feat.

And then when you look at him : every big time guy is respecting him and acknowledge him : Shiki, WB, Garp, Sengoku, Chinjao etc etc

The guy was said fight equally with WB the strongest man around and the king of tte post Roger era.

Obviously Roger is stronger than everyone. (Not counting Joy boy or I’m etc)

One piece isn’t that complicated.

Will, being free, being the most relentless, dream bigger, that what make you strong in a shonen.
And Roger was the peak in those areas.

Mihawk can be as strong as he wants. In a fighting shonen about pirate king he can’t be stronger than Roger.
No, the main Theme is "Chasing your Dreams"
Oda said that his Inspiration was Vikings, he only wrote a Pirates Story cuz he learned that Vikings are Type of Pirates
And if Pirate King was the End Goal, than Roger would have succeeded in using One Piece but he didn't
And if it was then Luffy wouldn't have a Dream "After" becoming Pirate King

Pirate King is not the Summit of any Dream, it's the Door to All Dreams
That's the difference

So Roger is The Greatest Pirate Figure Overall because he reached a point where he had his finger on the Button that can change anyone's Life & entire World, but he said it was too early.

Swordsmen are part of Pirates Life, same thing for Doctors, Navigators, Cooks, History, Racism, Ships ... etc
But Roger wasn't Greatest Swordsman, neither did he accomplish any of SHs Dreams
But what he did allowed these 10 to gather together & chase their Personal Impossible Dreams

Roger = Greatest Inspirational Figure (Possibly only 2nd to Joy Boy)
But he himself doesn't represent what anyone wants to become
The guy did nothing with his Title & Privilege

It wasn't even Roger's Dream to become Pirate King, it's just what they called him after finding Last Island
If the guy himself & no one from his Era dreamt of such Title, then why are you considering him to be Strongest?

And i already answered you about Power Level
Roger is there at the Top, he is neither Stronger nor Weaker than those other Big Names
But when someone wants to become Greatest Fighter or Swordsman, they don't look up at any Major Name at the Top
They look at the guy with Highest Fighting Skills, the one with Strongest Abilities gained from Pure Training & nothing else like Science or DFs
And that's obviously Mihawk

Actually Roger being Non-DF User confirms that even those enhanced by DFs aren't above Human Training Limit & that's what Kaidou is trying to explain here. So Mihawk is indeed The Strongest

And what Shonen Logic are you talking about?
You wanna tell me that Ging was stronger than Netero?
You wanna tell me that Any Hokage is Strongest Ninja ever?
You wanna tell me that Shenron was Strongest Being in DB Verse?
... etc

Dragon Balls, Finding Ging, Pirate King Title, Hokage Title are examples of focus of most popular Shonens
But never did they indicate "The Strongest", however they were really close ofc
 
battle of wills....

Kaido tried to break the will....didn't happen
Kaido tried to kill.....didn't happen

Kaido will be the one who breaks at the end...
The fact that Kaido and Luffy himself still don’t know he’s Joyboy, makes me wonder how he’s going to reveal it. I think it’s going to be crucial about how Kaido is defeated
 
Also why is it that everyone else who has the worlds strongest title Gets respect besides Mihawk? Even if we haven’t seen him go all out Kaido and White beard have proven that the title strongest means Something. Can people really not separate characters from their toxic ass fandoms.
 
Oda really going out of his way to showcase Kaido and Orochi as the two main villains of the arc, down to them most likely falling at the same time or within just a chapter of each other
 
He brings Roger up as an example of his point, "ability" isn't the key to conquest, but haki, "it surpasses all"

Lol...the whole discussion and this is the context....ability or haki Luffy has both....so Kaido hyped Luffy showing Roger as an example.....Luffy fans eating good.....

this could also be that fight could end with a winner who has the strongest will/haki....no wonder Oda gave Luffy so many losses....and makes him comes back stronger each time he lost....for Luffy, stronger the foe, stronger the will power......

anyways...amazing for all Luffy fans out thhere....

@Luffy is the mc @General duke hyou @Tyki_Mikk @Rmstorm @Bogard @Sentinel
You all are eating shit this week

Luffy just flexed his newly gained devil fruit power up from awakening to new gear to mythical zoan to destiny fruit; and Kaido chose to randomly wank "you can dominate without ability / devil fruit".
He literally ignored Luffy's newest power up.
 
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We always knew Luffy would be getting the 3rd level of CoC, which is only available to CoC specialist, which Luffy is.

The moment we knew he wouod be fighting Blackbeard that this would happen.
That all makes sense but that would legit be the 5th power up in the same arc. I mean after the Soyboy Nikka awakening, couldn’t be any more clear that Oda is serious about wrapping this up in 5 years, Elbaf might as well be the only arc before the Final Saga at this point. But man...Oda really fumbled the fight, not like it had any stakes left after the Looney Tunes crap.
 
He brings Roger up as an example of his point, "ability" isn't the key to conquest, but haki, "it surpasses all"
Follow by his new attack
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